Video shows ‘scientist’ in Congress saying evolution is from ‘pit of Hell’

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U.S. Rep. Paul Broun’s view that the theories of evolution and the big bang are “lies straight from the pit of Hell” is getting more exposure than he might have expected, thanks to a video that was made at a church-sponsored banquet in Georgia and distributed by a progressive political watchdog group. 


The Georgia Republican is already well-known as an outspoken conservative Christian, due in part to his unsuccessful campaign to have 2010 declared “the Year of the Bible.” But the latest comments have taken on an extra dab of controversy because Broun, a medical doctor, calls himself a scientist in the video and chairs the House Science Committee’s panel on investigations and oversight. 

The video clip, distributed by the Bridge Project, was taken from a longer version recorded on Sept. 27 during the 2012 Sportsman’s Banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell, Ga. Here’s a transcript of the Bridge Project’s snippet:

“God’s word is true. I’ve come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell. And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth. I don’t believe that the earth’s but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says. “

Written By: Alan Boyle
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72 COMMENTS

  1. Even The deer heads are looking at him like, “Da fuq are you TALKING about?!” Seriously. Look at the deer heads while he talks. It’s hysterical in an otherwise completely depressing scene.

  2. What a waste of an Enlightenment. That someone could remain this ignorant in the 21st century is beyond comprehension. Does he also believe that the earth is flat, the sun revolves around it, and “stood still” for Joshua in the divinely mandated genocide of Jericho?

    The deer heads strike me as ironically symbolic. Someone should repost the video and insert a thought bubble from one of them: “We really need to thin the herd.”

  3. I just want to point out, in case you haven’t already smashed your head into the table, that not only is this idiot a US congressman, not only is he on the US House Science Committee’s panel on investigations and oversight, but he is the f*ing CHAIRMAN of that committee! 

  4. This has nothing to do with science and it is unconscionable how this idiot was elected to congress. This is all about the abuse of mindless religion to maintain power and control. Even the religious mind knows that this shit don’t float. Yet, they would probably vote for the idiot again. The Republicans use the same terrorist tactics as the Islamic lunatic faction. One can only hope that the American public are not as stupid and gullible as Republicans think they are.

  5. Don’t entertain that thought. Romney’s running for president in November and he’s a Mormon, or moron, or both. Things will be a lot worse if, by some “miracle”, he gets elected.

  6. There are countless ways to debunk this young-Earth nonsense, including all the ways to demonstrate an old one. But I have a quicker observation that discussing that at length. Scientists put error bars on their conclusions. This 9,000 number… what’s the 95 % confidence interval on that? (Of course, YECs give all sorts of different numbers anyway.) Speaking as a physicist, this man doesn’t strike me as the kind of person who even knows how confidence intervals are calculated.

  7. So when do we Securlaists unite politically, and start the necessary “HOUSE CLEANING” of these 
    morons?????It’s high time for a third political party, and a platform which is truly first class and second to none.Sean Faircloth for President in 2016!!!!!!!  I think the “National Secularist Party” would be a more than appropriate banner.

    What are we waiting for?????

  8. This person is also an MD. I saw this report yesterday and it reminded me about a discussion on the Old Site, by Prof. Dawkins, regarding his severe reservations of maintaining a patient relationship with a creationist doctor. 

    Mike

  9. Those bucks are certainly a captive audience, funny!  
    Actually, deer season is about to start. Hunters from this Sportsman Banquet probably tote camo bible covers and pray for good aim.

  10. If Romney does walk into the Whitehouse then Blighty is sure to get a deluge influx of evangelistic bollix that is creeping in even now, the infection is spreading unchecked, the UK Minister for health has just expressed his ‘opinion’ that abortions should not occur after 12 weeks…quoting some unnamed scientific analysis.

    He then cites ethical and moralistic concerns but that is was nothing to do with his avid Christianity.

    So not only proving he is an ignorant credulous dumb fool but that he is a crass lying toe-rag.

    This is a minister of the crown …that attitude will be ten a penny in the Brit cabinet if Romney takes office …cos misery loves them some company, and Blighty always adopts the worst of American culture!

  11. But it won’t get better by people just commenting about it on the Internet. It won’t start to get better until more Americans overcome their apathy and get involved in the process. More than just voting, organizing, etc. 

  12. I absolutely agree its past time to get rid of these clowns. But the realist in me says that a Secularist party, at least in the US, will be nothing more than a symbolic gestures and I think the time is past for symbolic gestures. In Elvis country where this guy is from, there is no way a Secular party would get more than a very few votes. In fact any votes such a party got would come at the expense of more moderate republicans in primaries or democrats in the general election and would make it MORE likely that clowns like this stay in office. 

    Some times in politics you need to take incremental steps. As much as I detest them in many ways, the democrats are at least sane and recognize basic facts of science, politics, and economics. I think the best strategy in the short term is to support them.

  13. Mr. Broun has confessed to his delusions. Now let us ask him what evidence he has that the bible is the word of a god despite its many errors and inconsistencies, and how he explains away all the evidence for science. Lie implies somebody saw the truth and told something different.  Why would scientists all make this up? They were Christian too and found the evidence quite distressing.

    If it were lies then the lies could be debunked.  They have not been. 

  14. Democracy doesn’t exist in a 2 party system, as we are seeing right now. I think it was the Australian Democrats (now defunct) leader Don Chipp who coined the phrase “to keep the bastards honest” when asked what his aim was when there was no chance of winning government… recent elections have shown this to be a fact.

  15. I see this story as a cause for optimism. Sarah Palin is on record as saying she believes the Earth to be approximately 6,000 years old; Rick Perry thinks it was created a millennium before that; and now this Paul Broun fellow says he “doesn’t believe that the Earth’s but around 9,000 years old.” So even the best and the brightest of the Republican Party are beginning to waver just a little on this issue.

    My math isn’t that great, but by my reckoning, by the time we arrive in the 57th century or thereabouts, future Republicans will just about have caught up with the rest of us in accepting Planet Earth’s true age of 4.5 billion years. They just need a little time.

    Vote Romney/Ryan on November 7, 2012!!!!

  16. Yes, Red Dog, I agree with you, of course. But I’m genuinely uncertain if we, as Americans can totally
    trust the Democratic Party to ever make any serious, formal, commitment both in principle, AND in
    method as to how to APPROPRIATELY downsize the ever pervasive role of the Federal Government.

    Heaven knows we can’t trust the GOP and their ridiculous agenda of ideas.

    Serious decisions regarding our budget deficits and our National Debt must be made. If there were no GOP,
    would the Dems be sober enough to develop and implement principled methods of scaledown by themselves???
    Perhaps, but I’m far from sure.

     I’ve really seen no evidence of any REAL, SUBSTANTIVE, VISION  in the first 4 years of the Obama
    administration along these lines. Not that I would ever vote for Mittens, of course. And, to be fair, Obama has had
    a lot on his “Presidential plate” during these past four years, putting out one fire after another.

    BUT THROWING OUT PROPOSED SPENDING LEVEL DECREASES  AND ACCOMPANYING
    PROPOSED TAX INCREASES AND SEEING WHAT STICKS IS NOT WHAT I CALL DEVELOPING
    A PRINCIPLED METHOD OF SCALEDOWN!!!!

    Someone once said that the Democratic Party is a Party of poor ideas, and that the GOP is a Party
    of BAD ideas. 

    We Americans deserve better, more principled, transparent, decision making and decision framing from our
    present administration. You can’t expect 5oo+ U.S.  Representatives and 100 U.S. Senators to lead
    in this fashion.

    Red Dog, you’re probably correct. But it sure is nice sometimes to daydream about a potential quantum leap forward,
    and to verbalize a morsel of reasoned, yet passionate hope that maybe it’s not all a daydream.  

    Sean Faircloth, where are you?????

  17.   The Georgia Republican is already well-known as an outspoken conservative Christian, due in part to his unsuccessful campaign to have 2010 declared “the Year of the Bible.” But the latest comments have taken on an extra dab of controversy because Broun, a medical doctor, calls himself a scientist in the video and chairs the House Science Committee’s panel on investigations and oversight.

    Ahh! – The traditions of political incompetence!

    You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth.

    Not only is he so dim that he does not understand cosmology or biology even after being well educated in these subjects.  He is also so dim that he thinks he is a scientist after rejecting scientific methods!

    That’s what the Bible says. ”

    • Petty ignorant about the origins of the bible too!

    Standard creationist learning technique!
    http://richarddawkins.net/news

  18. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell.

    A medical doctor claiming embryology to be a lie, straight from “the pit of Hell.”

    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

  19. “Your last line had me a bit confused..”

    I don’t see any cause for confusion. I hope that all Americans who don’t want to see ‘President’ Obama get to spend four more years in what is after all supposed to be the ‘White’ House.. and don’t want to see this great nation of ours become a libtard, socialist, Islamic caliphate, where homosexuals are permitted to go on living, women’s vajayjays are no longer considered the property of their husbands or fathers, and people who are unable to pay their medical bills aren’t humanely put to death.. I hope that all loyal Jesus-loving, stem cell-hating, science-denying, Ted Nugent-listening-to Americans come out on November 7 and cast their God-given vote for Willard Mitt Romney and against the baby-punching, birth certificate-faking, college transcripts-not-releasing, Allah-spooning reincarnation of Adolf Hitler, Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

    I especially hope that all these people come out to vote on November 7 because.. because.. well, because the election is on November 6.  :)

  20. I have a theory that this physician is a ” bleedin’ liar.
    He’s trying to sell himself to the creationist simpletons who are a significant part of the electorate.
    HL Mencken an outstanding journalist and very witty writer and almost certainly an atheist made some very barbed comments about politicians and their husting speeches.

  21. From the OP

    And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.

    The only thing these idiots need saving from is themselves. Ditto the rest of the world.

  22. Agreed. I remember not so very long ago when people were being encouraged to vote ‘tactically’ in the General Election and put their X against the Liberal candidates.
    That was a feckin’ success, wasn’t it?

  23.  ” I’m genuinely uncertain if we… can totally trust the Democratic Party to … APPROPRIATELY downsize the ever pervasive role of the Federal Government.”

    There are a lot of things I don’t trust Democrats to do. I don’t trust them to prosecute people who commit war crimes or torture. I don’t trust them to adopt a sensible energy policy that doesn’t give insane tax breaks to oil companies. I don’t trust them to stand up for the basic principles of church/state separation that are supposed to be guaranteed in the constitution.

    But far down the list of things I don’t trust Democrats to do is curtailing the deficit. The last president in recent history to leave a surplus, even though he inherited what at the time was the largest deficit in US history, was the last Democrat before the current president, Bill Clinton. The Republicans have been historically the ones who bust the deficit and as they do it they say, as Cheney said when he was in power that “deficits don’t matter”. Deficits don’t matter when you are spending money on wars, tax breaks for oil companies, or building Hospitals In Iraq. Of course deficits suddenly do matter when you want to spend them on building hospitals in your own country.

    One of the many irrational myths about Obama is that he is some huge deficit spender. In fact, he is the smallest government spender in US history since Eisenhower:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ri

  24. Well, if this guy believes the earth is 9,000 years old then he is definitely at odds with the curators of that “Creation Museum” in Kentucky, who believe it’s only around 6,000 years old. I would love to see this guy get into a shouting match with them over it. It would be a bit like watching the Pope getting into a bar-room brawl with Mel Gibson’s father over who is “the real” Catholic.

  25. Narcotics are illegal in many countries because they are mind altering drugs which leads a person to believe in crazy stuff (oooh  I can fly…) , which could hurt people!!.
    This video amongst many more examples in the world proves that Religions are mind altering “substance”.  If it is not made illegal, then it should be at least controlled!
    You Americans had this “Democracy” for over 200 years, and you still have people like the Dr. Here allowed on stage (instead of straight jacket)!!!  What chances do we have in the third world!!
    The last thing we need is Democracy, as we have enough nut jobs to make “your Dr.” Seem to be very sane!!.

  26. “but he is the f*ing CHAIRMAN of that committee!”  – I don’t believe you. We’re talking America here. The land that is busy exploring Mars right now. Or else that committee has zero importance.

  27. Apparently it is no criminal offense to be operating solely on a brain stem, he seems to be on the same frequency as the majority of the population. It is little wonder education in the United States is the joke of the world—what the hell has happen to these people????????? 

  28. Yes Alan 4discussion,
    A precise statement of the logical truth.
    It gives the impression that people like him are verging on madness.
    There is something so nauseatingly vulgar about creationist / fundamentalists involving themselves in politics.
    I’m distinctly right of centre ; but these religious fruitcakes have torn the GOP apart.

  29. ConnedCatholic
    “but he is the f*ing CHAIRMAN of that committee!”  – I don’t believe you. We’re talking America here.

    The thickest politicians can be selected by rent-a-rabble political cliques within political parties.

    He reminds me of one of the thickest UK politicians I have ever encountered.

    This particular individual moved an amendment to have  my motion to discuss the banking crisis pushed off the agenda at a political meeting in 2007 and again in 2008.

     He and his gormless cronies who passed his amendment found “finance boring”, so preferred to discuss “political correctness” and political infighting on committees!

    There has just been a public inquiry as to why some public officials paid themselves million£ bonuses. 
    It found a lack of management supervision to be the cause: – That is lack of supervision by the committee he chaired!!!!
     I could have told them this was the likely cause without the cost of a public inquiry – and indeed said as much to colleagues when the inquiry was first announced.

  30. ” That someone could remain this ignorant in the 21st century is beyond comprehension.”

    No, it is not beyond comprehension.

    It is perfectly predictable when religion is given unwarranted respect, when schools and universities employ accommodationism at every turn and when childhood indoctrination is called tradition.

  31. U.S. Rep. Paul Broun claims “god created the pit of hell”, goes on to say that it says so in the bible.
    er…
    Are you saying that I made this up?
    er…
    but I must be right, I have GCSE in media studies. ( but the dog ate the certificate).

  32. At the risk of provoking the moderator’s chastisement for going off topic, although the Republican extreme anti-government stance is also a kind of religion,  I will disagree with you. Our biggest problem is unemployment and lack of demand, not debt and deficits. That’s the other big debate in the US and Europe, austerity vs. stimulus. I’m with the Keynesians on this. First, we have to get the economy going again, and then you fix the deficit. Implementing austerity measures now only slows down the recovery and creates more unemployment in the long term.

  33.  One trick I’ve used to get past this is just to make up an address. Look at the address for his office in his home state or district, Google map it, and find a reasonable street address near by. That’s enough to make you look like one of the people in the district and the comment can go through.  Doesn’t matter if the address turns out to be a deserted warehouse.

  34. Please tell me that this idiot does not have a say on NSF and NIH funding…… I am about to begin my post doc here in the USA and know that funding has been reduced already…..he needs to resign his post now! 

  35. “I don’t trust them(Dems) to adopt a sensible energy policy that doesn’t give insane tax breaks to oil companies…………But far down the list of things I don’t trust Democrats to do is curtailing the deficit”.

    Respectfully, I would trust the Dems to do the former, FAR, FAR, before the latter. One of their primary
    constituencies are the numerous urbanite “have nots” and “nearly have nots”.

    I’m sure you’ve heard Obama openly and publicly positing an end to the tax breaks for oil companies,
    but I don’t hear too much about curtailing entitlement programs.

    But none of this was really my point.

    My point is that developing a principled method of scaledown has to better integrate PROGRAMMATIC
    decisionmaking with FISCAL decision making. I think even Simpson-Bowles is barely a good start in
    this direction,–it’s far too exclusively a fiscal approach.

    We need to better anticipate the huge benefits of oncoming technologies and the areas in which it will
    affect the delivery of both goods and services to our population, and factor that into our fiscal plans
    in much the same way that Obamacare plans to reroute the $716MM of anticipated savings from the Medicare Trust.

    All kinds of programmatic anticipated savings are no doubt present in both our military and non-
    military spending. Government CANNOT afford NOT to get “programmatically leaner”, and needs
    to, in order to ever have a hope of getting fiscally leaner. Ironically, it  now needs to develop 
    programmatic ideas that are both cost effective and technologically anticipative enough so that
    when implemented, government becomes both fiscally AND programmatically leaner.

    Poorly integrated fiscal planning is akin to going on a low calorie diet without a plan to
    deal with hunger crazed moments, nutrition consequences, and other necessary lifestyle changes
    needed to effectuate longer term successful results.

    Have a great weekend Red Dog, and best regards,

    The Kid

     

  36.  I do think fixing the debt is important, I just think its important to look at what you need to spend vs. what is optional or even harmful. The US spends approximately as much as the rest of the world combined on “Defense”.  The Congress authorizes weapons programs that even the Pentagon doesn’t want because such programs lead to jobs in their home states and districts. (Yet any talk of a stimulus plan to do things like fix bridges is seen as socialism).

    The Iraq war was the first major US war that was funded by borrowing money. All other major US wars went hand in hand with tax increases to pay for them. That and tax cuts for the super rich are how Bush took a huge surplus and turned it into a huge deficit that was then Obama’s problem.

    For once I think this is a case where we could have our cake and eat it too. We could fund jobs programs (especially R&D in alternative energy) and we could still bring down the deficit by slashing our military budget. Why in the world does the US need bases in Germany and Japan for example? Perhaps when there was a cold war that made sense but it certainly doesn’t now.

  37.  “I’m sure you’ve heard Obama openly and publicly positing an end to the tax breaks for oil companies,
    but I don’t hear too much about curtailing entitlement programs.”

    Because there is no reason to curtail “entitlement” programs. The use of that word is one of the master strokes of right wing propaganda. “Oh those lazy people who think they are entitled to money”.  Most of the people getting “entitlement” money are people like my mom who worked hard all her life and payed significant taxes into social security and is now just getting that money back to support her old age. That is how the system was designed to work. The only reason there is a “crisis” in these entitlement programs is because since Reagan the Republicans and Blue Dog democrats have been raiding the money that was supposed to be set aside for people like my mom and have been giving it to companies like Northrop and Halliburton for pointless overkill weapons and for misadventures like the second Iraq war.

  38. “There is no reason to curtail entitlement programs”

    Red Dog, with all due respect, some things have  got to change–certainly, you’re not an advocate for
    permanent indigence for a sizeable percentage of our population?????

    These programs outlays are the main source of the fiscal problem. I am not advocating cuts in
    benefits to those who truly need them, especially Social Security, but c’mon, maybe some
    general public philanthropy “in kind” volunteer work for benefits, or more extensive means testing of benefits and ablebodiedness????

    Productivity cannot possibly increase as quickly as these types of outlays are. Are you telling me
    that you now believe in miracles??? Or rational solution approaches to very real National problems???

    Best Sunday regards again,

    The Kid

  39. A reminder of the true worth of religious hell namely anything the god-botherers do not like it has come from or going straight to hell. This moron is a big cheese on the house committee for science which says all you need to know about U.S. politics at the minute.

  40. 9000 years eh?  Doesn’t he know that Archbishop Ussher’s scholarship of the Bible gives the universe’s birthday as 23rd October 4004 BC? I make that 6016 years old. Where did he get the other 2984 years from? Has he got a badly printed copy of the Bible? Does he listen to Harold Camping’s radio show?

    (Bangs head on table)

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