Do we still need religious leaders?

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Andrew Copson

 

Andrew Copson has been Chief Executive of the British Humanist Association for the past two years, but does not view himself as a leader. Andrew believes one of the greatest things about Humanism is that it does not demand that a person follow a leader or subscribe to a single individual’s thoughts or beliefs. Instead Humanism opens up access to all schools of thought when it comes to making decisions about life. Andrew does not believe religious leaders should ever be relied on as the exclusive source of moral values or authority in society.

 


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12 COMMENTS

  1. Well the simple answer to this is no unless we need to resort to handy examples of comic or lunatic, megalomaniacal infantilism for instructional purposes.

    The views of the church on morality and reality haven’t changed since medieval times and when their leaders parade around in their dementedly OTT regalia whipping up a light breeze on the sky god and his concerns about women clergy and homosexuality I can’t imagine there is any 7 year old in any secular household who doesn’t look at it and wonder what the fek is going on.

  2. If we didn’t have religious leaders who would organise protests at soldiers funerals, or make ridiculous statements about science, or condemn people they don’t like because of things they don’t understand, or convince people to blow up airliners?

    If everyone was allowed to have “a personal relationship with God” all the useless parasites called clergy would be competing with rational people for jobs, and I for one don’t need the competition.

    Mostly however, we (as atheists) need religious leaders because they make religion look bad.

  3. Surely we don’t need leaders who pretend to know things that they do not know….if clergy just admitted this one thing, they would realise that what they are doing is misleading people on a grand scale….I’d say it is fraud and deserves DISrespect, not respect. While common courtesy should apply, I think clergy in general should be shown that they are despised by many, as is done to other leaders, politicans etc. The ‘political correctness’ that requires respect to be shown to clergy even by non believers is ridiculous!

  4. In reply to #2 by N_Ellis:

    If we didn’t have religious leaders who would organise protests at soldiers funerals, or make ridiculous statements about science, or condemn people they don’t like because of things they don’t understand, or convince people to blow up airliners?

    If everyone was allowed to have “a personal relationship with God” all the useless parasites called clergy would be competing with rational people for jobs, and I for one don’t need the competition.

    Don’t worry the competition couldn’t be that good unless you’re selling laxatives

  5. What is the point of religious leaders? simply to tell the ‘sheep’ what to do and how to think, and if they then inspire acts of violence, tyrrany and intolerance then as far as they are concerned all well and good.

  6. I think atheists are similar to religious nut jobs in certain areas, for example, denying humans nature and what comes “natural” to all humans. Allow me to elaborate….

    Religion “nutjobs” says… Don’t eat and don’t have sex, although those functions are just basic human needs…

    Atheists say.. you don’t need a leader, and don’t follow like sheep, yet those two needs are just as human needs as food or sex.

    Let us bring the big guns of atheism to address this little topic… High priest of atheism… where are you??

    So, are atheists twits like the religious twits???

    May the force be with you!!

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  7. In reply to #9 by voiceofarabi:

    Atheists say.. you don’t need a leader, and don’t follow like sheep, yet those two needs are just as human needs as food or sex.

    You don’t need to be told what to do every six hours to survive. If you feel the need to be led, then maybe you’re just weak. There’s nothing wrong with that, but to put leadership in the same category as a need as food is just way off the mark.

  8. In reply to #10 by Detective Lazy:

    In reply to #9 by voiceofarabi:

    You don’t need to be told what to do every six hours to survive. If you feel the need to be led, then maybe you’re just weak. There’s nothing wrong with that, but to put leadership in the same category as a need as food is just way off the mark.

    Billions of people around the globe would like to differ with you….

    Every country, every company, every army, school and NGO would like to differ with you….

    Wake up and smell the hummus…

    Avoid the dark side…..

  9. In reply to #11 by voiceofarabi:

    “Billions of people around the globe would like to differ with you….”

    Not really. It’s just you, dude.

    “Every country, every company, every army, school and NGO would like to differ with you….”

    Nope, it’s still just you.

    “Wake up and smell the hummus…”

    Cheesy.

    “Avoid the dark side…..”

    Yeah, still cheesy.

    I haven’t been told what to do in years and I’m still alive. If I had gone that same amount of time without food, then I wouldn’t be around to reply to you. Now, do you understand what a real “need” is?

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