Indian caste councils praise families that carry out ‘honour killings’

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Indian caste councils accused of encouraging the ‘honour killing’ of eloping young couples have praised families who murder their daughters as ‘peace loving’ and ‘law abiding.’

In a submission to India’s Supreme Court, leaders of caste councils made a plea for greater understanding of those who kill their children for ‘honour’ but denied encouraging them.

Their submission came amid widespread anger in India over high levels of violence against women following the gang-rape and murder of a 23-year-old student on a bus as she travelled home from the cinema with a friend.

According to campaigners there are up to 10,000 ‘honour killings’ in India every year. Most of the victims are young women killed by their fathers and brothers over ‘forbidden’ relationships or for insisting on marrying a man they love.

Many of those killed were in India’s northern states where councils have issued stern warnings against men and women from the same sub-caste marrying each other. Caste elders regard the practice as akin to incest even though the individuals are not related.

Caste leaders have now made a submission to the Supreme Court spelling out demands for new marriage laws banning those in the same sub-castes from marrying one another.

Written By: Dean Nelson
continue to source article at telegraph.co.uk

14 COMMENTS

  1. “Our suggestions to women not to use mobile phones, [wear]tight clothing or mingle with the opposite sex is based on ground realities. We are not anti-women and have no intention to curb their freedom but we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes We believe that individuals from opposite genders should not mingle too much, if they do, its like sprinkling petrol on fire,” he said.

    Why don’t the girls – not the boys, mind you, never the boys – just go down to their parents’ cellars and stay there until the parents find them somebody ‘worthy’ to marry? Or better still, why don’t they descend into the caves for the rest of their lives??

  2. Indian society goes to some lengths to justify this behaviour but there is nothing remotely sensible about maintaining a social construct that is burdensome and founded on imaginary and anachronistic social boundaries. Traditions are tyrranys imposed by dead people. It is time India tried to find reasons to unite its people rather then divide them over indefensible ideas.

  3. And the worrying part is, this is a country that has nuclear arsenal & space programmes.

    The Hindu fascists are gaining popularity everyday.

    In reply to #1 by HenMie:

    “Our suggestions to women not to use mobile phones, [wear]tight clothing or mingle with the opposite sex is based on ground realities. We are not anti-women and have no intention to curb their freedom but we have seen girls and boys taking to each other at odd times and fixing dates on mobiles, which in many cases have led to rapes We believe that individuals from opposite genders should not mingle too much, if they do, its like sprinkling petrol on fire,” he said.

    Why don’t the girls – not the boys, mind you, never the boys – just go down to their parents’ cellars and stay there until the parents find them somebody ‘worthy’ to marry? Or better still, why don’t they descend into the caves for the rest of their lives??

  4. I think India needs to ban reproduction so they won’t have to kill people for any little reason they can pull out of their arses cause there is no space to spit in there. If you’re going to kill your child anyway why even have them, right? .. It’s absolutely outrageous that they think that murder is more acceptable than mingling with some person. What a bunch of bull!

  5. Why isn’t murdering a young woman shameful? Honor killing is an oxymoron.

    I have a lot of admiration for, and expect a lot from India’s modern Rationalist movement, and I hope this primitive rhetoric helps wake people up.

  6. “The honour killings are carried out by law abiding, educated and respectable people, who fear the society and always try to guard their reputation. They always care about their esteem and public image and do not want any harm to their public standing,”

    Really? WTF? About time the UN stepped in methinks. Or would it be a toothless tiger?

  7. The cry for peace will be a cry in the wilderness, so long as the spirit of non-violence does not dominate millions of men and women.

    If by strength is meant brute strength, then, indeed, is woman less brute than man. If by strength is meant moral power, then woman is immeasurably man’s superior. Has she not greater intuition, is she not more self-sacrificing, has she not greater powers of endurance, has she not greater courage? Without her, man could not be.

    … speaking for myself, I have said that we have all to become Harijans today or we will not be able to purge ourselves completely of the taint of Untouchability. I, therefore, tell all boys and girls who want to marry that they cannot be married at Sevagram Ashram unless one of the parties is a Harijan. I am convinced that there is no real difficulty in this. All that is needed is a change of outlook.

    If… castes and sub-castes as we know them disappear – as they should – we should [then] unhesitatingly accord the highest importance to marriages between Ati-Shudras and caste-Hindus

    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (all)

    How soon they forget.

    Peace.

  8. What is it about women that needs suppressing by men? That men feel they need to control and destroy?

    These killings are about men, and how they look and feel, about how they perceive themselves, they have nothing to do with the women, the women are just pawns, property …

  9. In reply to #10 by inquisador:

    Not to detract from or belittle the importance of this story of violence against women and girls in India, unfortunately such atrocities are not confined to that country. In Britain now we have a similarly evil phenomenon:- gangs of mostly Muslim men who have learnt how to use and pimp young mostly English girls, some as young as 13, by plying them with booze and drugs and then raping them repeatedly to paying customers.
    The girls are mostly also vulnerable, often targeted because they are in ‘care’.

    And worse, while a few of these men are now starting to be brought to justice, many have long been able to count on the British police doing nothing to stop the criminal gangs or help the girls concerned, despite knowing about these evil actions for 10 years or more and standing idle for fear of politically correct name-callers. Surely the most abjectly wicked and cowardly part of this scandal.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3068/muslim-child-rape-gangs-britain

    It goes on still, but still the required level of public protest against this is almost absent. In this respect we should learn from the Indians.

    Sorry to go a little off-topic.

  10. This nauseating egregious attitude is a good reason for Indian unbelievers to rise up and create a society based on obvious morality.
    This type of moral corruption will result in atrophy.

  11. It has been over 150 years now. Things have only marginally improved. Here is Marx on the Indian condition at 1853, still relevant,

    “England, it is true, in causing a social revolution in Hindostan, was actuated only by the vilest interests, and was stupid in her manner of enforcing them. But that is not the question. The question is, can mankind fulfil its destiny without a fundamental revolution in the social state of Asia? If not, whatever may have been the crimes of England she was the unconscious tool of history in bringing about that revolution.

    Then, whatever bitterness the spectacle of the crumbling of an ancient world may have for our personal feelings, we have the right, in point of history, to exclaim with Goethe:

    “Sollte these Qual uns quälen
    Da sie unsre Lust vermehrt,
    Hat nicht myriaden Seelen
    Timur’s Herrschaft aufgezehrt?”

    • Karl Marx, The British Rule in India, June 10, 1853″

    In reply to #11 by Okeydoke:

    I wonder how long it will take the people of India to shrug off the shackles of their primitive caste system. It is such an utter waste of human potential.

  12. There is NOTHING honourable about any kind of killing- even for the most heinous crime ( in that case it’s a necessity) but to kill your own offspring because of what others think qualifies as a heinous crime and should be dealt with accordingly.
    These “upstanding members of Society” need to seriously reexamine their personal value system and that of the society they live in.. jcw

    In reply to #7 by ArloNo:

    “The honour killings are carried out by law abiding, educated and respectable people, who fear the society and always try to guard their reputation. They always care about their esteem and public image and do not want any harm to their public standing,”

    Really? WTF? About time the UN stepped in methinks. Or would it be a toothless tiger?

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