36 COMMENTS

  1. Get the Bishops out of the House of Lords.
    No tax breaks for any religions.
    If any one wants a visit from there chosen wizard whilst in hospital, they pay for them out of their own money.
    This should save a few million pounds. Anyone roughly know the amount?

  2. In reply to #1 by 1949.same.as.hitch:

    Get the Bishops out of the House of Lords.
    No tax breaks for any religions.
    If any one wants a visit from there chosen wizard whilst in hospital, they pay for them out of their own money.
    This should save a few million pounds. Anyone roughly know the amount?

    Around £29m of healthcare money was used to pay for hospital chaplains in 2009/10.

    Source: http://www.secularism.org.uk/uploads/nss-chaplaincy-report-2011.pdf

  3. Church of England has no power, in that I mean no physical, scary as f*ck power. I feel we can pretty much refrain from worrying about their dwindling influence. Islam on the other hand has those facets that force people, even comedians, from confronting their madness. This is where the spotlight needs to shine, and shine bright.

  4. In reply to #4 by dess:

    Church of England has no power, in that I mean no physical, scary as f*ck power. I feel we can pretty much refrain from worrying about their dwindling influence. Islam on the other hand has those facets that force people, even comedians, from confronting their madness. This is where the spotlight needs to shine, and shine bright.

    Agree with you about Islam, although I’d be happier about ignoring the Church of England if it didn’t have Bishops in the House of Lords involved in making laws that govern my life…

  5. On one hand im delighted to see the decline of the Church of England, on the other im more concerned about the rise of Islam. I can only hope that there is an even greater rise in the amount of free thinkers who do not pander to religion or superstition.

  6. Why on Earth are women adopting Islam? The Church of England compared to Islam, Judaism and Catholicism, is THE best alternative for women who actually need a “faith”, if any women really needs religious faith.

    The women in my life, the women I totally respect and admire are actually women without religious faith. There is absolutely no way I would entrust any part of my life to a woman of religious faith.

  7. In reply to #6 by EnduranceSwimmer:

    On one hand im delighted to see the decline of the Church of England, on the other im more concerned about the rise of Islam. I can only hope that there is an even greater rise in the amount of free thinkers who do not pander to religion or superstition.

    I agree about the rise of Islam, but that, of course, is their primary goal, to convert the World to Islam and destroy all infidels, those who are not believers (in Islam of course). It is so written in their holy books.

    My other concern is the increase in converts that the Catholic Church is gaining, almost exclusively among people of poor or no education, people who are susceptible to threats of a supernatural kind, and people who have lived under a shaman or witch doctor all their lives, generation after generation. Benedict just replaces them with the nasty Christian reward and punishment system of heaven v hell.

  8. Mmm…perhaps its the involvement of the anglican church in government that encourages islam. If no church is given any status perhaps they would all fizzle over time….maybe just become clubs where like minded people meet….like chess, golf, meditation, yoga, masonic etc etc. Uk government must become 100% secular and leave religious people to do what they want….then they’d cease to be in the news like they are at present.

  9. Islam is exposing itself to more ridicule, the more it screams its message of hate.
    Solution-
    1. Stop Muslim immigration
    2. Ditto mosque construction
    3. Repatriate where possible
    4. Ban the koran as the hate-mongering evil it is
    5. Educate children (and ignorant adults) as to what is mandated in that book
    6. Block Islamic websites
    7. Ban Islam itself and public worship
    8. Most important- tell Islamists that the west repudiates The Religion of Peace

    Of course, this is all fantasy. Our liberal leftist airhead leaders and supporters have no idea what it is they are tolerating and are leading us to Dhimmitude, or its alternative, mass slaughter.

  10. did kristiane backer actually say that islam was more logical? did she actually say that word, “logical”?? with all its misogyny, why would a woman go anywhere near islam? and, by the way, the irony of the derivation of her name doesn’t escape me either!

  11. The Church of England has been reduced to a weak tea and sponge cake appreciation society. It is time this was recognised by the government and the 26 senior tea room concessionaires (bishops) were told to pack up and fuck off.

    Not much chance. Our dhimmi government has no more chance of recognising a useless anachronism as it does of recognising a lying, violent, dangerous and antihuman scourge like islam even if it blew their arses half way up their backs.

  12. You are converting churches into luxury housing or night clubs? That’s why Britain has all these shootings. Oh, wait…
    The prince of Wales wants to be the leader of all delusions. That’s a wonderful statement.

  13. We are a laughing stock with our state-sponsored mumbo jumbo and our monarchy.All the nonsense of subjects and princes and fucking archbishops needs to be consigned to Grimms fairy tales.If only our politicians had the backbone to actually instigate the promises they make before every election, we could be a country looking forward to a bright future instead of always looking back to an imperialist,religionist past.

  14. “… Broadened my knowledge about Islam and compared it with Christianity, I must tell you, I found it more logical…”

    That gave me good ol’ chuckle. She reckons she’s after something that is logical! Give me a break. Logical. Haha!

  15. Some leaders of the Anglican Church insist that they must adhere strictly to the ancient tenets of their faith; and I agree. That’s the only way they can truly maintain their integrity.

    Others argue that the church must adapt to reflect contempory society; and I agree. That’s the only way they can survive.

    But smugness must not be indulged, because when this pussy cat of a denomination has “met its maker” there will be a vacuum.

    And, waiting in the wings will be, indeed already is, a beast of an infinitely more ferocious nature; truly, a blast from the past carried on chill winds of contempt and vengeance.

    Not a happy prospect, but one that must be faced up to and resisted with maximum might.

    I think I’ve put myself in the mood for a noggin or few! But then, I am but an Infidel.

  16. All the evidence I’ve seen seems to point to a decline in the influence of the CoE. My memories of the 60s include “trendy” vicars riding ton-up motor bikes, and playing guitars in church, in order to appear “relevant”. What a joke it was, even in those days , when some preacher would come on the radio and explain why the Beatles’ “Yesterday” was connected to Jesus in some obscure way ! A lot of water under the bridge since then, plus a lot of other distractions for your humble knee shuffling worker ! Heavens, the CoE has to compete with TV, radio, football, pop music, celebrities, films, YouTube and you name it.

    And yes, for all the real horrors, that some mad Muslims are capable of, Islam will go the same way into history’s dustbin. Sorry guys ! No Jesus, No Allah, – just reality please.

  17. I appreciate the main point of this link is about the decline of the C of E. However, what should also be noted is the amount of white females who are becoming Muslims. Because the evolution of emotional intellect is not uniform throughout the world, religion is only slowly declining. Religion or belief in hocus pocus would decline a lot quicker but for females who are lagging behind males in their development of emotional intellect and still need to believe in hocus pocus. In the link out of 1000,000 people who became Muslim in the last 10 years, three quarters or 75,000 were white women, why? I wonder how many of the remaining 25,000 were men of any colour and if it is the same for other religions. I hope not, perhapspeace.

  18. “females who are lagging behind males in their development of emotional intellect and still need to believe in hocus pocus”

    This is not surprising- the Atheist Census shows 73.4% of atheists world wide are male- very disappointing.
    My own experience led me to suspect as much- so many women I know are into tarot, crystal healing, reiki, anything with woo in it. And those are the intelligent ones! Look at those who practice this stuff- predominantly women. The female mind must be more susceptible…

  19. In reply to #20 by LJofSpades:

    “… Broadened my knowledge about Islam and compared it with Christianity, I must tell you, I found it more logical…”

    That gave me good ol’ chuckle. She reckons she’s after something that is logical! Give me a break. Logical. Haha!

    Broadened my knowledge?? How is it that Muslims THINK they know Islam, yet have no idea what’s in the koran?

  20. In reply to #26 by Nodhimmi:

    In reply to #20 by LJofSpades:

    “… Broadened my knowledge about Islam and compared it with Christianity, I must tell you, I found it more logical…”

    That gave me good ol’ chuckle. She reckons she’s after something that is logical! Give me a break. Logical. Haha!

    Broadened my knowledge?? How is it that Muslims THINK they know Islam, yet have no idea what’s in the koran?

    Didn’t you get the memo? Apparently, only a Muslim can truly understand Islam. So none of us could possibly know what it’s about unless we’re knee deep in it! It’s baffling to me that there are women who convert to Islam – same with fundamentalist Christians or Jews too.

  21. In reply to #26 by Nodhimmi:

    That gave me good ol’ chuckle. She reckons she’s after something that is logical! Give me a break. Logical. Haha!

    Broadened my knowledge?? How is it that Muslims THINK they know Islam, yet have no idea what’s in the koran?

    They probably memorise chunks without understanding,- just like evangelical fundamentalist Xtians do with the Bible, – and then make up nicey impressions that feel good to them! {Oh yea of (a) little faith!}

  22. Mr Darcy

    I love the “trendy vicar” thing – a bit like the old Dick Emery parody (anyone remember that?) Anyway, I clearly remember seeing a video some time ago about religion in the 60s and how the church was trying not to be “square”, instead trying to be “with it”. There was a”trendy vicar” dancing in a “discotheque”, Honestly. , surrounded by mini-skirted “chicks” in full Carnaby Street style.the whole horrid, toe-curling, buttock-clenching embarassment narrated in that “British Pathe News” stiff upper lip style of news reporting. Total class act it was. Embarassing as hell. Wish I could find it again.

    :-))))

    SG

  23. It’s worse! Their kids learn koranic verses by rote and (if I understand correctly) in classical Arabic, which very few of them (or their parents) understand. Just as in the olde English Sunday school they get awards for regurgitating it. Recently a muslim mother rewarded her son by beating him to death for being too slow in koranic learning. Allah be praised.

    In reply to #30 by Alan4discussion:

    In reply to #26 by Nodhimmi:

    That gave me good ol’ chuckle. She reckons she’s after something that is logical! Give me a break. Logical. Haha!

    Broadened my knowledge?? How is it that Muslims THINK they know Islam, yet have no idea what’s in the koran?

    They probably memorise chunks without understanding,- just like evangelical fundamentalist Xtians do
    with the Bible, – and then make up nicey impressions that feel good to them! {Oh yea of (a) little faith!}

  24. In reply to #31 by scottishgeologist:

    I love the “trendy vicar” thing – a bit like the old Dick Emery parody (anyone remember that?) Anyway, I clearly remember seeing a video some time ago about religion in the 60s and how the church was trying not to be “square”, instead trying to be “with it”. There was a”trendy vicar” dancing in a “discotheque”, Honestly. , surrounded by mini-skirted “chicks” in full Carnaby Street style.the whole horrid, toe-curling, buttock-clenching embarassment narrated in that “British Pathe News” stiff upper lip style of news reporting. Total class act it was. Embarassing as hell. Wish I could find it again.

    You mean like this?

    emery%20vicar

  25. In reply to #6 by EnduranceSwimmer:

    On one hand im delighted to see the decline of the Church of England, on the other im more concerned about the rise of Islam. I can only hope that there is an even greater rise in the amount of free thinkers who do not pander to religion or superstition.

    My feelings exactly ED.

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