Perry pushes prayer, not legislation, to fight violence

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Gov. Rick Perry recommended prayer rather than changes in gun laws to combat violence in society, following President Obama’s call for increased gun control and enforcement.


“There is evil prowling in the world – it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds,” Perry said in a statement issued after the president’s Washington, D.C., news conference on gun violence. “As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be. Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice. Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.”

Perry said few of the recommendations put forth by Vice President Joe Biden’s committee on violence, appointed by the president after the Newtown school massacre that killed 20 children and six adults, had anything to do with what happened in that Connecticut town.

“In fact, the piling on by the political left, and their cohorts in the media, to use the massacre of little children to advance a pre-existing political agenda that would not have saved those children, disgusts me, personally,” the governor said. “The Second Amendment to the Constitution is a basic right of free people and cannot be nor will it be abridged by the executive power of this or any other president.”

Written By: Houston Chronicle
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27 COMMENTS

  1. In reply to #4 by JHJEFFERY:

    Yes, and his statewide day of prayer for rain turned a drought into the longest drought in Texas history. “Ooops.” I don’t think god likes Perry very much.

    I remember seeing a Doppler map of a rainstorm at that time – it made a complete circle around Texas.

  2. Could I suggest that Perry puts gun to his head and prays that the bullet in the chamber is a dud, and pulls the trigger!
    It would see if “God” wanted a vacancy for the election of someone with a functioning brain!

  3. “There is evil prowling in the world – it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds,”
    “As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be. Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice. Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.”

    They should have just pelted this guy with rotten tomatoes while booing him off the podium. Why this guy still has a job is beyond the capabilities of all the supercomputers on the planet working overtime.

  4. Can you believe that Perry was actually considered as a Presidential candidate?

    I guess Hunt isn’t any better. Later in the article He says, “’I think this is a reaction to a very tragic situation, no doubt about it, but every gun law in effect would not have prevented what happened in that situation,’ Hunt said of the Sandy Hook shooting.” Why do you think we’re trying to change the current laws, moron?

  5. “As a free people, let us choose what kind of people we will be. Laws, the only redoubt of secularism, will not suffice. Let us all return to our places of worship and pray for help. Above all, let us pray for our children.”

    <glurk!> Yo, Governor! You’re an elected official. As such, the laws we live by are within your purview. Prescribing prayer is not. (c.f. the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.)

    And while I’m on about it, how can he reconcile requiring prenatal ultrasound before undergoing an abortion with this “just pray, don’t legislate” stance? Can you imagine the uproar if part of a background check for those wishing to purchase a firearm were to visit or view film of a trauma ward with victims of gunshot wounds, as well as the morgue?

  6. While I have no love for Governor Parry (with an A for America!). Encouraging people to pray is in this regard something I endorse, since I don’t believe it is possible to entirely stop rampage shootings like Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre without infringing on the rights of a lot of innocent people for little return. The Newtown shooting, itself, was a perfect storm of events that is still being deciphered.

    And yes, it was tragic, and yes, we are driven to do something, anything because children got slaughtered. At the same time, I’d have hoped we’d learn from the 9/11 attacks which brought us the PATRIOT acts, Homeland Security, the TSA, Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo, black sites, Operation Iraqi Freedom and an unending War on Terror while our own liberties slip away by the year.

    The gun-regulation bills currently being considered have been in effect before, and did nothing to slow gun related homicide (which actually increased) or suicide (which did drop but was met with a non-gun suicide increase). In the meantime, municipal police continue to unload their confiscations in their evidence lockers to street gangs in backdoor alleys. So this will not reduce the number of guns in the US, but will merely make more of them illegally owned.

    Yeah, the NRA have become asshats, but when it comes to protection of our right to own weapons, they have a point.

    And considering recent actions of the DOJ and the FBI against people who didn’t so much commit crimes but were just nuisances to state and corporate interests, it’s clear that neither of these agencies serve the public good anymore. I think it might be a better thing that the populace was armed: It is evident that or representatives aren’t really nervous enough.

    Rampage shooters really are dealt with best similarly to the way we should handle terrorists. Focus on the victims, not the killers. Grieve. Rebuild. Move on. Fear and sensationalism is what gives them power, and when you take that away, there become better ways to focus their rage.

    So yeah. I don’t think prayer will help, but it won’t actually hurt, and since everyone is so desperate to do something, I’d rather they do something inoffensive than break our society even more.

  7. In reply to #12 by Uriel-238:

    And yes, it was tragic, and yes, we are driven to do something, anything because children got slaughtered.

    It would have been better to do something earlier to reduce the chances of it happening.

    At the same time, I’d have hoped we’d learn from the 9/11 attacks which brought us the PATRIOT acts, Homeland Security, the TSA, Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo, black sites, Operation Iraqi Freedom and an unending War on Terror while our own liberties slip away by the year.

    I think that is because of the gung-ho attitude of some US military, US politicians and US media!
    Lacking understanding and detailed planning, they use, or advocate, brute-force and ignorance on problems in the hope that this will impress opponents.

    The gun-regulation bills currently being considered have been in effect before, and did nothing to slow gun related homicide (which actually increased) or suicide (which did drop but was met with a non-gun suicide increase). In the meantime, municipal police continue to unload their confiscations in their evidence lockers to street gangs in backdoor alleys. So this will not reduce the number of guns in the US, but will merely make more of them illegally owned.

    If there is a problem with failure to gather in, or the corrupt sales of illegal firearms, that is the issue which should be tackled. “Our system is too inept to succeed so let’s not try”, is a poor argument.

    Yeah, the NRA have become asshats, but when it comes to protection of our right to own weapons, they have a point.

    This is perhaps a constitutional error left over from the wild-west days! Citizens in other developed countries do not seem to need, “a right to own firearms”. (As far as I know, nobody in our street has one.)

    And considering recent actions of the DOJ and the FBI against people who didn’t so much commit crimes but were just nuisances to state and corporate interests, it’s clear that neither of these agencies serve the public good anymore. I think it might be a better thing that the populace was armed:

    These shootings happen because of the availability of guns. A freaked out or drug crazed nut, can do less harm without a weapon.

    Rampage shooters really are dealt with best similarly to the way we should handle terrorists.

    Indeed they should be! They should be prevented from acquiring weapons if possible, or dealt with by SWAT teams or the military who have proper training and equipment.

    Focus on the victims, not the killers. Grieve. Rebuild.

    While doing what can be done for victims and relatives, prevention is a far better option.

    Move on. Fear and sensationalism is what gives them power, and when you take that away, there become better ways to focus their rage.

    Certainly it would help if the media did not give them star treatment, but fear should spur people into taking preventative action, to restrict gun ownership to people (like farmers) who actually need guns, and then to restrict the type of gun to those needs. No civilians need high-powered or automatic weapons.

    So yeah. I don’t think prayer will help, but it won’t actually hurt, and since everyone is so desperate to do something, I’d rather they do something inoffensive than break our society even more.

    Prayer is just a substitute for thinking and taking constructive action.

    I’d rather they do something inoffensive than break our society even more.

    Widespread weapon ownership will not mend broken features of societies. It will only escalate the force of confrontations and increase collateral damage to those involved, or to bystanders.

    In places like the UK where weapons are heavily restricted, there are far less gun accidents and shooting incidents.

    In countries with no enforceable restrictions, there are lawless gangs and militias running around with RPGs, machine guns, and Kalashnikovs.

    Anyone in the UK having or using an illegal gun, is likely to be tackled by a SWAT team, will have extra time in jail just for carrying a gun, and even more for firing one in a public place.

    It is unfortunate for those who live in places where law enforcement is so poor that they need weapons to defend themselves – but even there – criminals are likely to come better prepared, if they expect armed resistance.

  8. C’mon now, every one here had to know that this guy would come up with this type of plan. i mean, really, he is the lead nut in a whole state full of class A nutjobs!

    Prayer: how to pretend to do something helpful while actually not doing anything at all.

  9. Defer to the bearded one. He’ll fix all our problems, so don’t you worry. All you got to do is believe really, really hard.

    And remember, guns don’t kill people.

    Video games kill people.

  10. In reply to #12 by Uriel-238:

    While I have no love for Governor Parry (with an A for America!). Encouraging people to pray is in this regard something I endorse, since I don’t believe it is possible to entirely stop rampage shootings like Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre without infringing on the rights of a lot of innocent people for little return.

    Just interested where you draw the limit? Should citizens be able to own a chain gun? chemical weapons, fully armed f-18 fighter planes or drones? Surely there has to be a limit to freedom, yes? So why do you draw the line at banning fully or semi-automatic weapons?

    The gun-regulation bills currently being considered have been in effect before, and did nothing to slow gun related homicide (which actually increased) or suicide (which did drop but was met with a non-gun suicide increase).

    They are in effect in Australia and have worked. As your point with suicide proves. Spontaneous gun related acts are exactly what you are trying to prevent here. Sure it won’t stop them completely just make them more difficult and rarer as has been proved in Australia and else where. A non-gun related suicide would I assume have also saved some lives, as there is possibly of saving someone who has had an overdose not much chance when they have no head.

    In the meantime, municipal police continue to unload their confiscations in their evidence lockers to street gangs in backdoor alleys.

    This is all police? This is legal?

    So this will not reduce the number of guns in the US,

    Yes it will as has been shown in other countries.

    but will merely make more of them illegally owned.

    This is good isn’t it? Most gun crime now committed in my country (Australia) is done with illegally obtained weapons by gangs and organised crime groups. They mainly use them to kill themselves (good). They do not for good reason go about shooting kindergarten classes. Our laws do not prohibit the owning of guns so we still have people who hunt and shoot recreationally, we just cannot own a semi-automatic weapon. When we shoot a deer we cannot shower it with 50 rounds that’s all. In terms of the massacre in question this would not have meant he didn’t go into a school and shoot the place up it just means it might have only shot a few instead of over 20. This is the point.

    In Australia if a police officer is investigating a suspected organised criminal and finds in his house a cash of unregistered, illegal weapons he gets locked up. In your country “Oh well, no problem nice Uzi”.

    Yeah, the NRA have become asshats, but when it comes to protection of our right to own weapons, they have a point.

    The question you need to ask yourself is why do you consider this right one you cannot change?

    And considering recent actions of the DOJ and the FBI against people who didn’t so much commit crimes but were just nuisances to state and corporate interests, it’s clear that neither of these agencies serve the public good anymore. I think it might be a better thing that the populace was armed: It is evident that or representatives aren’t really nervous enough.

    Let’s face it, if your situation (seems a little paranoid to me-but I don’t live in the US) is true and the US government wanted to take you out how much good do you think a semi-automatic weapon would do you against a team of navy seals or a missile? I think your best bet is to vote well and encourage your peers to do the same.

    Rampage shooters really are dealt with best similarly to the way we should handle terrorists. Focus on the victims, not the killers. Grieve. Rebuild. Move on. Fear and sensationalism is what gives them power, and when you take that away, there become better ways to focus their rage.

    You live and vote for (I hope) for politicians who make rules to regulate your freedoms and therefore minimise harm to many in any number of situations. Cars have emission standards, food is regulated, water treatment, aircraft, everything from your plumber to your nuclear power stations is regulated to minimise harm to the general population. Nothing you have said here justifies why this shouldn’t be true of devices designed to kill people.

  11. I can’t stand the guy but I have to give Rick Perry a lot of credit here… It’s a win win situation for him. He not only keeps all those gun toting Texans happy, he uses America’s best weapon of prayer to mock Obama’s gun control plan while at the same time allowing for respect to those who lost their lives to gun violence.

  12. Gov. Perry

    “There is evil prowling in the world – it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds,”

    Now considering that Perry’s Lord has infinite powers, why does He allow such evil to stalk the world? Especially as He loves us?

    As George Carlin said, praying for the Lord to change His cosmic plan is downright impertinent.

  13. “There is evil prowling in the world –

    it shows up in our movies, video games and online fascinations, and finds its way into vulnerable hearts and minds,” Perry said

    On his list, he seems to have missed out priests, preachers and politicians!

  14. In reply to #3 by nlib1:

    Thank you Lord for sparing us this man as president.

    Especially after 8 years of someone just like him from the same great state of Texas where everything is bigger including bulls and their droppings.

  15. In reply to #25 by godsbuster:

    In reply to #3 by nlib1:

    Thank you Lord for sparing us this man as president.

    Especially after 8 years of someone just like him from the same great state of Texas where everything is bigger including bulls and their droppings.

    It’s been years, but the Dixie Chicks are still anathema in country music for the statement against Bush.

  16. good idea. now apply this to homosexual marriage, instead of making it illegal, just pray it won’t happen. instead of “teaching the controversy” pray that children don’t learn anything in biology classes, instead of demanding changes in abortion or contraception laws, pray that women choose to hand over their reproductive rights.

    praying is definitely the way forward, in fact i think anyone with a religious agenda should follow Perry’s lead and keep it out of legislation

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