Anti-Evolution Missouri Bill Requires College Students to Learn About Destiny

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Late last month, Rick Brattin, a Republican state representative in Missouri, introduced a bill that would require that intelligent design and “destiny” get the same educational treatment and textbook space in Missouri schools as the theory of evolution. Brattin insists that his bill has nothing to do with religion—it’s all in the name of science.

“I’m a science enthusiast…I’m a huge science buff,” Brattin tells The Riverfront Times“This [bill] is about testable data in today’s world.” But Eric Meikle, education project director at theNational Center for Science Education, disagrees. “This bill is very idiosyncratic and strange,” he tells Mother Jones. “And there is simply not scientific evidence for intelligence design.”

HB 291, the “Missouri Standard Science Act,” redefines a few things you thought you already knew about science. For example, a “hypothesis” is redefined as something that reflects a “minority of scientific opinion and is “philosophically unpopular.” A scientific theory is “an inferred explanation…whose components are data, logic and faith-based philosophy.” And “destiny” is not something that $5 fortune tellers believe in; Instead, it’s “the events and processes that define the future of the universe, galaxies, stars, our solar system, earth, plant life, animal life, and the human race.”

Written By: Dana Liebelson
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38 COMMENTS

  1. This is also the politician who received the Concerned Women for America of Missouri Freedometer Award for HB 1109 which “prohibits any state or local governmental entity or public building, place, or setting from banning or restricting the practice, mention, celebration, or discussion of any federal holiday.”

    So I suspect this is a way to have Christmas (yes a federal holiday designated by President Grant in 1870) nativity scenes in government buildings?

    Another liar for the LORD is what we have here.

    Mike

  2. I’ve never understood how you could teach a whole course on ID. Once you open the class with, “It says here in this old book that god did it,” what’s left to say for the balance of the six weeks?

    I recently took the Coursera offering from Duke on Genetics and Evolution and I’d certainly have aced the final (I did not, by the way) had all I been required to master were three or four conflicting paragraphs and one silly conclusion.

  3. In reply to #5 by rjohn19:

    I’ve never understood how you could teach a whole course on ID. Once you open the class with, “It says here in this old book that god did it,” what’s left to say for the balance of the six weeks?

    I recently took the Coursera offering from Duke on Genetics and Evolution and I’d certainly have aced the final (I did not, by the way) had all I been required to master were three or four conflicting paragraphs and one silly conclusion.

    I am doing that course at the moment. Half the time is spent sifting through the troll posts in the forum, such posts as, religion Vs evolution and god did it…blah blah blah!

  4. So would the biology books read something like this:

    “Homo sapiens (Adam and Eve) first walked the Earth (Paradise) about 200,000 years ago (circa. Day 3 of Genesis). Small groups of hunter-gathers then used their native ingenuity to spread Out of Africa (A&E, the upstarts that they are, ate of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and God kicked them out of Paradise). Soon thereafter, these colonizers had spread to most of the Earth (Paradise; A&E gave birth to Cane and Abel and Cane, slaying Abel, went off and got married (don’t ask) and his children spread allover the world and got married too (don’t ask). “

    I almost want this to happen.

  5. In reply to #12 by Nodhimmi:

    In reply to #7 by sunbeamforjeebus:

    Surely this dumbfuck is only 13 years of age?

    OUTRAGEOUS insult to 13-yr-olds!

    You’re right Nodhimmi, the average 13 year old would leave this moron for dead!

  6. I started to smile when I read his redefinition of a hypothesis and theory. So craaa-aaazy! It’s nuts, absolutely nuts. It’s adorable. He’s a freakin’ bimbo. “Buff?” The preferred term is nerd or geek. “Buff?” Which science does he buff to? All of them? Just science in general? Bubbling beakers and all that?

    lulz.

  7. In reply to #9 by TrickyDicky:

    In reply to #7 by sunbeamforjeebus:

    Surely this dumbfuck is only 13 years of age?

    Right numbers but the wrong way around.

    Surely you are confusing his age with his IQ !

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    I started to smile when I read his redefinition of a hypothesis and theory.

    Someone should buy him a dictionary and some remedial reading lessons!

    @OP – “I’m a huge science buff,” Brattin tells The Riverfront Times.

    It’s probably his spelling!

    “I’m a huge science buffoon,” Brattin tells The Riverfront Times.

  8. Well, he sure as hell seems like having no fucking clue on what he’s talking about in general either. I missed the science part of the article. What’s next? Fate, doom, the apocalypse and its aftermath? Or something less primitive but equally nonsensical? If he’s so pro-science, where’s the bill which states that Missouri has decided double its funding for scientific research? Bloody pseudo-scientific knobheads. Get out.

  9. The Missouri Standard Science Act itself has a destiny.——-That giant circular file in the sky.

    What’s the difference between a right wing wingnut State Legislator and a rottweiler????

    Answer: Eventually, the rottweiler lets go.

  10. My daughter attends a local community college here in St. Charles, Missouri (suburb of St. Louis). On more than one occasion she’s had to intellectually bitch slap her instructor(s) due to stupid things they’ve said that amount to nothing more than theology poorly disquised as science. Fortunately, she is headed to a proper University (out of state) next semester. Of course, she has never been disrespectful to her instructors, but she certainly makes it known that she’s not going to quietly sit there and listen to this idiocy without challenge. She’s a keeper, and she is “made in Missouri”…so the state is not without hope!

  11. In reply to #14 by TrickyDicky:

    “I’m a science enthusiast…I’m a huge science buff,”

    He looks like he was a “jock” in college, do “jocks” do science or do they get nerds to do it for them?

    While I didn’t play collegiate ball at Missouri, I am very much a ‘jock’…. and got my degree in geology from U of Missouri. Enough with this idea that you can’t be physically active and still read books.

  12. And “destiny” is not something that $5 fortune tellers believe in;

    True! It was a lot more expensive than that! But I do not think this was the “Destiny” that this muppet was talking about!

    Instead, it’s “the events and processes that define the future of the universe, galaxies, stars, our solar system, earth, plant life, animal life, and the human race.”

    It certainly covers some science on those subjects.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AAGiMPMwqI

    .. .. … But is probably much too technical for scientific illiterates who do not understand basic definitions!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destiny_%28ISS_module%29

    The Destiny module is the primary operating facility for U.S. research payloads aboard the International Space Station (ISS).[1][2] It was berthed to the Unity module and activated over a period of five days in February, 2001.[3] Destiny is NASA’s first permanent operating orbital research station since Skylab was vacated in February 1974.

    Astronauts work inside the pressurized facility to conduct research in numerous scientific fields. Scientists throughout the world will use the results to enhance their studies in medicine, engineering, biotechnology, physics, materials science, and Earth science.

    SOMEHOW I DON’T THINK THIS WAS THE “DESTINY” HE HAD IN MIND!

  13. Gaah!!!! “Destiny” as a valid scientific explanation? Wouldn’t the probability of finding evidence of “destiny” take care of itself? (Think about it.)

    What is it with Republican state representatives??? This, that clown in Iowa who wants to legislate that a zygote is a person (wouldn’t that illegalize any form of oral, patch, or implanted contraception?), and the Captain Kangaroo androgyne in New Mexico who wants to make termination following rape into a crime of destroying evidence…

    That’s it, I’m starting a list. Eventually I expect to be able to write a book on the idiocy of state representatives. Don’t worry, I’ll include Democrat and Independent loonies as well, if I can find any.

    Look for it on Amazon.

  14. I suspect it would be more accurate for this grinning fool to claim he’s a “huge pseudoscience buff”. Intelligent design, “destiny”, dowsing, UFOs, Bigfoot, crop circles and all things “paranormal” or “supernatural” – where do idiots like this draw the line?

    I also suspect that he got elected on the merits of his toothpaste-ad smile, clean-cut conservative appearance and ability to babble from the bible rather than his scientific perspicacity.

  15. And “destiny” is not something that $5 fortune tellers believe in; Instead, it’s “the events and processes that define the future of the universe, galaxies, stars, our solar system, earth, plant life, animal life, and the human race.”

    I thought your man Jehovah had imbued us with free will. If everything is preordained, why are we held accountable for anything and why am I and most everyone here going to be spending eternity as guests of the guy with the pitchfork and Prince Harry complexion?

    Any mention of destiny always makes me think of this, anyway.

  16. In reply to #4 by aquilacane:

    I think if a teacher started to teach me about destiny I would laugh in their face and ask for my money back. I may even tell them to fuck off.

    If any one asked me to teach “Destiny” as science, I would conclude that that my comment
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    covered the content required. Should any muppet wish to argue, I would see to it that they featured in published material for public ridicule.

  17. In reply to #34 by BananasForEveryone:

    I still find it surprising that creationists, theists, and the like, don’t know that the “Theory Of Evolution” is not a theory of the origin of life. Apples and oranges.

    Ah! but when theists swap “Theistic evolution” – (which is NOT a scientific theory, but includes abiogenesis in the god-did-it) – for Darwinan evolution, they are the same!

    Then they can claim to support and understand “evolution”,

    It’s the old shifting meanings and definitions word games!

  18. The website had two comments on different topics that seem to apply 1. Warnings that like on tobacco in the US, that believing in religion may make you look silly, 2 That any religion that gets tax breaks has to teach critical thinking in Sunday School and mention it at services.

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