The Pope seeks immunity: The end of the Vatican could be near

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The Pope will have immunity from prosecution regarding the mishandling of child sex crimes by staying within the walls of the Vatican, according to an anonymous Vatican source. Reuters reported Friday, Feb. 15, that church sources have explained that the retiring Pope Benedict would be “defenseless” if he leaves the Vatican.

This official news story comes on the heels of a statement issued by the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) that detailed the legal situation that surrounds the Pope and the Vatican. An unnamed European country and the ITCCShave issued a campaign to hold the Pope accountable for the Vatican’s cover-up of child sex crimes. There was an international arrest warrant secured for the Pope’s arrest:

On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.

The Tribunal and the unnamed European nation intend to take a lien against the property and wealth of the Catholic Church, beginning on Easter Sunday March 31. They are calling it an “Easter Reclamation Campaign,” part of which involves citizens seizing the assets of the Church under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.


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27 COMMENTS

  1. By all means, let’s attack the Pope and the Vatican, but let’s stick to credible sources. The Examiner.com doesn’t seem like a reliable source, and what exactly is the ITCCS? It seems not to be a genuine tribunal with any standing whatever. I think this is a scam.

  2. In reply to #1 by AtheistButt:

    By all means, let’s attack the Pope and the Vatican, but let’s stick to credible sources. The Examiner.com doesn’t seem like a reliable source, and what exactly is the ITCCS? It seems not to be a genuine tribunal with any standing whatever. I think this is a scam.

    Shortly to be followed by a spam campaign offering a share in the loot, if you’ll just help with the advance fees….

  3. It is doubtful that either Italy or Germany would extradite a Cardinal in any case. In Italy, the law prohibits convicts over 80 going to prison; they get house arrest instead. The Church has special treaties with these countries and others in Europe. Ratzinger’s lifestyle, such as it is, will not change much as a result of retirement. Meanwhile, Cardinal Bernard Law, deposed Archbishop of Boston in the US, lives in sunny “exile” in Rome. In practice, that is what actually happens to Catholic hierarchs who aid child molesters.

  4. Whilst it does seem to have the odour of conspiracy theory and wishful thinking, who knows? I’ll stick with wishful thinking until Easter when the excrement/fan interface is supposed to occur…

    Kevin Annet claims to be a defrocked priest/ whistleblower, seemingly bent (no pun!) on revenge.

  5. In reply to #3 by ItalyBloke:

    It is doubtful that either Italy or Germany would extradite a Cardinal in any case. In Italy, the law prohibits convicts over 80 going to prison; they get house arrest instead. The Church has special treaties with these countries and others in Europe. Ratzinger’s lifestyle, such as it is, will not change much as a result of retirement. Meanwhile, Cardinal Bernard Law, deposed Archbishop of Boston in the US, lives in sunny “exile” in Rome. In practice, that is what actually happens to Catholic hierarchs who aid child molesters.

    But a step in the right direction would be if countries like my own stopped having diplomatic relations with the Holy See and the Holy See was thrown out of the UN.

    Michael

  6. The Tribunal and the unnamed European nation intend to take a lien against the property and wealth of the Catholic Church, beginning on Easter Sunday March 31.

    Sounds like an April fools joke. Unfortunately.

  7. Well the ‘unnamed European nation’ seems to be Belgium, in fact that apparently is where the HQ of ITCCS is located according to internet scuttlebutt.
    that would kind of make some kind of sense cos the Belgium folk have fallen out of lust with the RCC spectacularly in the last decade.

    It seems the only support the RCC can depend on are the older retired generation and they get fewer year on year.
    As a comparison one can see that Ireland and its fulsome rejection of the stranglehold of the RCC in the last five years were not the first Europeans to pull away from the magisterium and in some anger it has to be said.

    If there would be a legal challenge it could indeed be of a Belgium source cos they seem a tad ahead in the game of dissolution and disentanglement of magisterium shadows.

    Now I have absolutely no idea if this organization has any validity or standing.

    I doubt it, wish it were different but there ya go!

    But it does raise the stakes in that now the in’ta’tubes are being fed the opposing view of the Vatican that it was a health issue.
    It is a conclusion that the majority hold anyway…nice seeing it in print.

    And Vatican spokesmen are seeming to tacitly acknowledge the point, now that is a first and deeply revealing.

    I think even diehard pompous in the Vatican sense it is a weak and vacuous excuse given their history and medieval penchant for their beloved magisterium ways.

    Popes do not resign over bad health, otherwise JP2 would have been out a decade before maxwell’s silver hammer went rat-a-tat-tat on papal bonce.

    So it is fairly obvious that Benny must feel vulnerable to having his collar felt by plod.
    And the Vatican also seem to be a tad nervous about that, .they are facing it down with wide eyed innocence but Vatican laundry room is on a 24/7/365 rota!

    I do wish it was true, but pragmatically, ratty will be slime long before the arrest warrant gets a stamp.

  8. Hi Guys, just want to warn you, virtually ALL the news releases relating to an arrest warrant for this Pope, can be traced back to one source, ‘the International Tribunal of Crimes of Church and State’ (ITCCS), my research suggests that is is a bogus organization, led by one Kevin Annett, a defrocked priest. I cannot find any evidence that is is connected to any governments. I think the entire story may be an elaborate fraud….

  9. Why would the Pope be defenseless outside the Vatican?

    In the eyes of the law he is innocent of any crime until proven guilty, and therefore owes it to himself to leave the confines of his nominal state and enjoy his rights; otherwise he may cause suspicions to be aroused as to his innocence, and that would never do.

    No, no, the Pope must be outed for his own good.

  10. This seems to be an early April Fool hoax, or fraud at best. If this ITCCS really bona fide existed and was going to pursue its threat (or sweet promise – for the more rational of us), governments would soon call them rogue and would make sure their aims are discredited and banned from the public sphere. After all, they think that Christianity, the Papacy and the Pope are good for us, the unruly masses, they keep us in check.

  11. If this “outs” all the special religious privileges and exemptions from the normal civilised laws, into open debate, so much the better.

    We can continue the campaign to tear up the religious exemption/get out of jail-free card, which has wheedled its way into the legislation and cosy arrangements with police and courts in various countries! One law applying to everybody within a jurisdiction is what natural justice requires!

  12. The RCC doesn’t live in the real world does it? The continuing cover up will do plenty of damage. It is a tacit admission of guilt and the action of an organisation running scared. The RCC would do well to study factors that contribute to trust. In the first place running a pozi epistemological scheme to con people into giving them money and power is bad enough and only possible if there are gullible people. On the matters of child abuse and slave labour, being able to admit there was wrong doing and having a clear out would be far better than continuing to lie cheat and cover up simply because on trust, people will tend to forgive incompetence or lapses but won’t forgive continuing amorality.

    This is the twilight of the RCC.

    This article may be a scam but it is what governments of the world should be doing! Taking the opportunity to draw the claws on this monster permanently so that it becomes no more than a club for the bigoted and stupid.

  13. Surely it is the standard RCC “gapologist” procedure to hide questions they can’t, or don’t want to answer, in obscure inaccessible corners – (regardless of if it is non-evidence of their sky-fairy’s existence, non-historical basis of their myths, or the obstruction of legal enquiries into evidence of criminal activities).

    “Gapology”, it seems can be applied to legal coverage, as well as to scientific evidence of the natural Universe.

  14. In reply to #1 by AtheistButt:

    By all means, let’s attack the Pope and the Vatican, but let’s stick to credible sources. The Examiner.com doesn’t seem like a reliable source, and what exactly is the ITCCS? It seems not to be a genuine tribunal with any standing whatever. I think this is a scam.

    Scam or not there are many charges outstanding in their litany of complaints. Check out this link. http://itccs.org/
    Lets hope its the beginning of the end for Vatican Inc.

  15. In further news as last last act as pope, Pope Benedict XVI is expected announce an updated nomenclature for the The Vatican, From march the first the holy city will henceforth be known as “The Cathedral of the Covered Arse”.

    :)

    The Reuters article is interesting, When he does little jaunts into Rome, I nominate Seal Team Six to effect the extraordinary rendition.

  16. In reply to #19 by bluebird:

    In reply to #10 by Stafford Gordon:Why would the Pope be defenseless outside the Vatican?Many a hungry red-tailed hawks and turkey vultures await the pope to fly the vatikan coop.

    Mine was of course a rhetorical question, and your response is apt.

    Anyway, sadly it looks as if this article is a fake or a wind up.

    S G

  17. Just happened to be looking at the paddypower website I see Richard is quoted as 666-1 to be the next pope.
    Just ahead of Father Dougal Maguire.
    666 – do you see what they did there?
    No odds for Father Jack. The fecking jesuits have got it all stitched up.

  18. Doesn’t matter; I don’t expect him to personally suffer because that isn’t the way it works. But he should be tried in absentia and found guilty. Then it should be widely publicized that he is in hiding, not in retirement, and that would be a deservedly endless humiliation for the RCC.

    I don’t want revenge, I want the whole thing brought down, and turned into a museum of human superstition.

  19. I call it white collar crime everytime an investigation is done about a catholic school or home abuse sexual,mental, slavery and even murder is found to be rife, cardinal Sean Brady a number of years ago received reports of a young boy who claimed a priest was interfering with him bradys solution was to force the poor unfortunate kid to swear on the bible that he would never utter a word of his ordeal to anyone and that Sean Brady scumbag walks the streets after openly admitting on radio he silenced this boy and perverted any possibility of justice. if they won’t bring Brady to justice they won’t bring the ratslinger.

  20. It would be the journalist that would have the duty to check the information´s source.
    It sounded strange, I wouldn´t trust it either.

    Just for fun, recently (in Portugal), an impostor has been interviewed on three tv channels in debates as a coordinator of United Nations, after all everything was checked and the man was someone with criminal precedents, they checked his university, that doesn´t exist for 30 years, and he even got a relatory published by a good name newspaper, and even fooled Reuters.

    Why? it seems that he will have more criminal charges after that, but many people like me felt like laughing of the situation, that´s the journalism we have, no one checks it´s sources, why then to read newspapers?

  21. Hmm, I think the big question is, will they be putting out an international bounty on his head? I know some of us ex-military types would be glad to make a little extra money and do the world a service by bringing the pedophile-protecting preacher in to be locked up.

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