Westboro Baptist church key member Megan Phelps-Roper leaves

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‘We’ve done things that hurt people’ says 27-year-old, who is leaving anti-gay organisation with her sister Grace

One of the most prominent members of the Westboro Baptist church has left it after spending her life as part of the fervently anti-gay movement.

Megan Phelps-Roper, who looked after social media for the church best known for its slogan “God hates fags”, announced her departure in a post on the blogging platform Medium in which she also revealed her younger sister Grace, 19, was also leaving.

In the post, called Head Full of Doubt/Road Full of Promise, the 27-year-old explained how she had become disillusioned with the teaching of Westboro, which is widely considered one of the most detested church groups in America for its “God hates fags” campaign.

Phelps-Roper writes: “We know that we’ve done and said things that hurt people. Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal, but it was one of the outcomes. We wish it weren’t so, and regret that hurt.

“We know that we dearly love our family. They now consider us betrayers, and we are cut off from their lives, but we know they are well-intentioned. We will never not love them.

“We know that we can’t undo our whole lives. We can’t even say we’d want to if we could; we are who we are because of all the experiences that brought us to this point. What we can do is try to find a better way to live from here on. That’s our focus.”

Written By: David Batty
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27 COMMENTS

  1. “Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal, but it was one of the outcomes.”

    “… but we know they are well-intentioned.”

    If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and makes a noise like a duck, then the simplest conclusion is that it is a duck.

    They are so obviously and blatantly ill-intentioned, that inflicting pain was not only the only possible outcome, but the only possible goal as well.

    They are the most poisonous examples of the human race it is possible to conceive of, far worse than any of the things they choose to oppose. Only the most bigoted arrogance can explain their actions, although it in no way justifies them.

  2. “We know they are well-intentioned.”

    Infuriating that religious people feel the need to defend the bad behaviour of their organizations. Whatever the organizations or their representatives do, there’s always a silver-lining. You can’t see it, but it’s there. In what way can WBC’s actions or cutting off your family members from your life be interpreted as well-intentioned?

  3. Seems that Fred has lost the plot and the power!
    Maybe age, maybe his insanity is becoming even more visible and they cannot cover it up any-more and they have run out of energy and the will to do so anyway, but this seems to be a pattern developing.

    Thing is, I am not sure the full picture of the utter vicious and shear brutality of what this family lived for over the years is apparent to the newly liberated.
    Really not sure they are aware of the depth of pain of families and disrespect for the dead of war that died for their country has really been understood?

    “We know that we’ve done and said things that hurt people. Inflicting pain on others wasn’t the goal

    Yet one of her ‘sisters’…Libby Phelps Alvarez…has admitted that ‘praying for the death of someone’ was an activity they indulged in.
    That is not just inflicting pain that is just shear evil bloody mindedness especially for a so-called xtian.

    But I would imagine that it has not been an easy decision…

    I hope she finds peace of mind and some kind of relief, the more successful her life becomes the greater the affect on those left in the church.

    If that is actually what is happening in a church in meltdown because the patriarch can’t cut it any-more!…, I would think it is more likely there is a power split and struggle going down and a few have jumped ship to avoid the inevitable hell that must be, which given Phelp’s attitude, is likely to be rather fractious at best and possibly murderous at worst.

    But several deserters in a week…hmmm!…seems paradise is not really paradise any-more!

  4. I could care less if she finds peace of mind. She tore that same thing from many grieving family with children that were suffering unimaginable grief. I can tell a simple lie about somebody and be sued but she has been free to cause horrible trauma to family after family without punishment or repercussion. To hell with her.

  5. In reply to #6 by digibud:

    I could care less if she finds peace of mind. She tore that same thing from many grieving family with children that were suffering unimaginable grief. I can tell a simple lie about somebody and be sued but she has been free to cause horrible trauma to family after family without punishment or repercussion. To hell with her.

    It is a fair point…but if it ends the church because the ones left see that one can work in the real world and work extremely well it might well be an end to this abomination.

    But I do agree the amount of damage her and the clan foisted on the grieving was and is totally unconscionable.

  6. I can see the justifiable anger at Megan and Grace for going along with the Phelps regime for so long, but I do think Megan understands what she did was wrong and that’s a good start.

    If you were brought up from year one in such a toxic, hermetically sealed cult could you say you wouldn’t have done the same? The Milgram experiment clearly demonstrates that we’re all susceptible to obeying dubious authority figures at one time or another, and when that authority is the sole source of ‘truth’ you get on a regular basis it can easily become your universe.

    Megan and Grace are just starting to understand the nature of their complicity and the remorse appears genuine.

    I just hope they remember that remorse is a two part process… ‘sorry’ is cheap, the guilt needs to be backed up by putting things right.

  7. Absolute hogwash. Of course the Westbro church knew exactly what they were doing. They picketed at the funeral of a child and proclaimed it was gods wish. The hatred spouted towards families who were attending their loved ones funerals, will never be swept under the carpet. As she says, they continue to be “well intentioned”.? Eh? Rewind back!
    On a plus side, she may have woken up. I suppose thats a plus.
    Sad thing is, some other moron and indoctrined sheep will take her place.

  8. In reply to #6 by digibud:

    I could care less if she finds peace of mind. She tore that same thing from many grieving family with children that were suffering unimaginable grief. I can tell a simple lie about somebody and be sued but she has been free to cause horrible trauma to family after family without punishment or repercussion. To hell with her.

    Another Missouri town is considering a ban/restriction of the “protest funerals” that cause so much anguish.
    Knife twisting irony – most towns back town when WBC threatens to sue.

    They also travel the u.s. to protest high school plays (such as ‘Rent’). One school did a peaceful counter-point via discussions about love and acceptance. Good for the kids!

  9. Good for them. It couldn’t have been easy. I’d let the “well-intentioned” horseshit slide for now and chalk it up to cognitive dissonance or maybe even Stockholm Syndrome. That’s a deep pit of manure they just climbed out of. I doubt that anyone coming out of that would smell good right away.

  10. In reply to #1 by crookedshoes:

    They are most certainly NOT well intentioned. BULLSHIT.

    Lets just say for a moment that they believe 100% in what they think, that ‘God Hates Gays’, then yes, by definition, they are well-intentioned.

    If on the other hand they do not believe 100% in what they think, then you would be right. Regardless of how much we might not like them, 100% belief in something makes one ‘well-intentioned’ in ones own eyes.

  11. Evil always thinks it is doing what is “right”.

    In reply to #14 by veggiemanuk:

    In reply to #1 by crookedshoes:

    They are most certainly NOT well intentioned. BULLSHIT.

    Lets just say for a moment that they believe 100% in what they think, that ‘God Hates Gays’, then yes, by definition, they are well-intentioned.

    If on the other hand they do not believe 100% in what they think, then you would be right. Regardless of how much we might not like them, 100% belief in something makes one ‘well-intentioned’ in ones own eyes.

  12. In reply to #17 by crookedshoes:

    Evil always thinks it is doing what is “right”.In reply to #14 by veggiemanuk:In reply to #1 by crookedshoes:They are most certainly NOT well intentioned. BULLSHIT.Lets just say for a moment that they believe 100% in what they think, that ‘God Hates Gays’, then yes, by definition, they are well-intentioned.If on the other hand they do not believe 100% in what they think, then you would be right. Regardless of how much we might not like them, 100% belief in something makes one ‘well-intentioned’ in ones own eyes.

    Evil is not an entity and does not exist and therefore cannot think, there are only deepening shades of bad/wrong.

  13. In reply to #16 by OHooligan:

    I agree wholeheartedly with both the placards displayed in the OP, but only if the guy holding them is a Brit, of course.

    By coincidence, I just read that the WWI museum in K.C. will have an audio interaction of war songs. Your post brings to mind this song. Ach, it breaks my heart.

  14. I am so suprised. I think all the younger people will eventually leave, but I honestly thought Megan would be one of the last ones because she was so outspoken and involved with it all. I guess that was a wrong assumption to make. Good for her.

    I can see how, if you’ve been brainwashed from a young age, it could be well-intentioned. If you honestly thought this is what you had to do to please God and not burn in hell, and maybe prevent other people from burning in hell by spreading the message, wouldn’t you do it? I’ve never been in that situation so I don’t know, but I can sort of understand it I think.

    Anyway I hope she does do good from now on, like she said she always wanted to.

  15. I left Christianity over 20 years ago and it created a huge gap between me and the rest of my family. I understand the sense of separation and I agree they intended the best but good people intending well can do destructive things. Good intentions are no excuse.

  16. ” . . . they are well intentioned” ??

    BULL! They are a bunch of psychos who seek attention for radical actions. They only want to hurt others and they have that typical superiority complex that comes with religion ‘I know something you don’t and you’re gonna burn in hell and I’m gonna laugh about it from heaven.”

  17. Could you imagine a Dawkins vs. Phelps debate?

    It’d be like a Jordan vs. Hawking* b-ball game.

    *I love Stephen Hawking and I mean no disrespect but I’m sure he isn’t good at basketball so I used him as an example.

  18. These young women have simply traded in the fire and brimstone for a “kinder and gentler” form of the same nonsense. As long as the WBC is around, the mainstream cultists will have to find new ways to spin and sell the dogma they share with them. The expanding reality-based communities of the U.S. and the world should hope the WBC doesn’t disappear too soon.

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