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You must have seen the Muslim Brotherhood statement against a UN Commission declaration against violence against women?

The Brotherhood outlines a very, very long list of objections, including what it says is the granting of “girls their complete sexual freedom, as well as the freedom to choose their sex and the freedom to choose their sex partners.. with rising the age of marriage”; “equality between illegitimate… and legitimate sons in all rights”; “granting homosexuals all their rights”; granting “wives all the right to sue their husbands with charges of rape or harassment”; “equality in inheritance”; replacing “guardianship with partnership, and fully share the roles within the family between men and women”: “equal access to the marriage legislations such as: Stop polygamy, Iddah, mandate, and the dowry…”; withdrawing “the authority of divorce from husbands and authorize judiciary and share property after divorce”; and cancelling “the obligatory authorization of the husband in travel, work or going out or use contraception”…

Not surprisingly, the Islamic Republic of Iran, Russia and the Vatican concurred.

The Muslim Brotherhood adds that all these very basic rights “collide with the principles of Islam and its basic…  elements of Quran and Sunnah”.

Well I could have told you that (and have).

Written By: Maryam Namazie
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22 COMMENTS

  1. I suggest that those groups who do not support equal rights for women should be tossed out of the UN and any other similar body. If their society and traditions are such that they cannot agree at this time, perhaps they should install Equal Rights 1.0, a no-charge upgrade, and re-apply.

    • In reply to #1 by rod-the-farmer:

      I suggest that those groups who do not support equal rights for women should be tossed out of the UN and any other similar body. If their society and traditions are such that they cannot agree at this time, perhaps they should install Equal Rights 1.0, a no-charge upgrade, and re-apply.

      I think th UN’s been getting sicker by the year and maybe it’s time it took one last trip to the vets. I think more would get done if all true democracies pulled out of the UN and started a new organisation, allowing anyone to apply on the assumption they support complete equality

      • There are a few iterations of this same sentiment… I cannot claim it for myself… I heard it:
        the rights you claim for yourself should extend to every man… I do not know who to attribute it to…. but Ingersoll is a great start….

        In reply to #22 by therbert03:

        “Give to every human being every right that you claim for yourself.” Robert G. Ingersoll

        In reply to #3 by crookedshoes:

        Grant to every one the rights you claim for yourself…

  2. Would this be an appropriate time to point out that all of the objections are specious and that making them brings their religion into disrepute (greater disrepute I should say) which I understand is a serious offence in various Muslim countries).

    Or perhaps I should just ask why they think half their own species should have less rights than a dog.

    Perhaps I should just say that if they wish to know why their religion has such a poor reputation in the world, it is entirely because of statements like the one they just issued

    Until you stop acting like barbarians don’t be surprised when you are treated like them.

  3. It always makes me laugh when Muslim countries complain about the UN – they are all signatories to the The Universal Declaration on Human Rights – but how many of them follow even the two articles below?

    Article 2

    Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

    Article 18

    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

    Seriously – you wont find many Muslim countries that pay anything but lip service to either of those – and quite a few ‘Christian’ ones don’t either…

    As Rod said earlier – toss them out…

    Maybe we should start a petition?

  4. Theocracy is not democracy just because some feckwit voted for it. These bums should be ‘coralled’ by the UN in a ‘naughty corner’ where they can have their tantrums but aren’t allowed to speak or vote until they abide by its articles on equality and freedom.

    Do as you would be done by.

  5. The Egyptians got rid of a dictator only to have him and his cronies replaced by Medievial Islamofascists.

    We who live in democracies should never become complacant about the fact; these kinds of groupings be they religious or political will deprive us of our hard won freedoms given half a chance.

    • In reply to #12 by Stafford Gordon:

      The Egyptians got rid of a dictator only to have him and his cronies replaced by Medievial Islamofascists.

      We who live in democracies should never become complacant about the fact; these kinds of groupings be they religious or political will deprive us of our hard won freedoms given half a chance.

      Who didn’t see that coming? I called it on several occasions. Their biggest problem has always been the religion as dictator.

  6. Hi all, I’m new here, longtime reader, newfound poster.

    It always struck me that various misogynistic religions are the same ones that object to the idea of evolution from ‘lower’ primates – “I didn’t come from a monkey” – that sorta thing, as if it were disgusting to even suggest they were related to other apes. Yet in the same breath, they’ll turn around and suggest females are somehow ‘lower’ than males! How can they have sex with them? Isn’t that disgusting too?

    So from their point of view it’s not OK to be related to lower apes, buts it’s OK to have sex with and procreate with them? How F’d up is that? Perhaps it’s OK to have sex with other lower animals as well, maybe that’s where all the sheep jokes came from!

    For the record, I both love and respect human women, and at the same I almost giddily acknowledge that we are just bald erect cousins of the other great apes. That said, I personally could not be sexually attracted to a creature I thought was a ‘lower’ form – sex is for procreation (and recreation!) with a member of one’s own species.

    So when a Muslim man is getting it on with his woman, is he thinking he’s just banging away at an animal? Ew, gross. Gives new meaning to the term doggie-style. Yet one more thing to question about the morality of such morons. I’m more embarrased to be related to them than to our hairy tree-dwelling cousins in the forest. At least an orangutan knows better than to try and hump a monkey!

  7. You would have thought, that the lessons from:- Iran, Iraq (1 + 2), Afghanistan (armies from various nations historically) , and Somalia, would have taught some in the West, that secretly or openly, undermining bad governments and replacing them with civil wars, organised crime gangs, nutty theocracies, or no governments, is a very bad idea! – Especially for the people in those localities.

  8. All of these “reasons” are terrible but not wanting women to have the right to sue for rape is disgusting. That groups would seek to support this denegration of a human right not to be physically harmed without reprisal sickens me and whilst I understand it is part of the faith I do not understand how any moral human could condone such actions, I guess this attitude is what sets us apart as decent, liberal humans. Is it any wonder why throngs of men in Muslim majority countries think it’s ok to rape women such as in this heart wrenching article; http://jezebel.com/5990651/i-was-raped-in-tahrir-square?utm_campaign=socialflow_jezebel_twitter&utm_source=jezebel_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

    • Precisely why religion and morality should never be confused.

      In reply to #17 by GlenNeuro:

      All of these “reasons” are terrible but not wanting women to have the right to sue for rape is disgusting. That groups would seek to support this denegration of a human right not to be physically harmed without reprisal sickens me and whilst I understand it is part of the faith I do not understand how any moral human could condone such actions,

  9. I suggest that those groups who do not support equal rights for GAYS should be tossed out of the UN and any other similar body. If their society and traditions are such that they cannot agree at this time, perhaps they should install Equal Rights 1.0, a no-charge upgrade, and re-apply.

    Oh wait that means the US and England and France and Germany just to name a few of these so called “free” and “tolerant” countries would be tossed from the UN. I realize the latter three might allow gay rights in the near future, but taking so long should be an embarrassment to these countries. It puts them on the same footing with global neanderthals like Iran, the US and China. Discrimination, no matter what group it is against should not be tolerated and these countries that continue to discriminate against gays yet crying out in protest against inequality towards women need to do some serious self examination.

    Crookedshoes you NAILED it and it bears repeating, “Grant to every one the rights you claim for yourself…”

  10. What is all this shock and disbelief? The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam (CDHRI) back in 1990 basically already said all these retrograde things and explicitly rejected the UN Universal Declaration on Human Rights as too Judeo-Christian. There weren’t any consequences back then. Probably some of the numb-sculls who were overthrown by the recent democracy movements also supported the CDHRI. I guess for women/gays nothing has changed.

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