Priest abuse victims’ group blacklists 12 cardinals for pope

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A group representing survivors of sexual abuse by priests named a “Dirty Dozen” list of cardinals it said would be the worst candidates for pope based on their handling of child sex abuse claims or their public comments about the cases.
The list names three U.S. Roman Catholic cardinals and nine from other countries.

SNAP, the Survivors’ Network of those Abused by Priests, said as it released the list Wednesday that its accusations were based on media reports, legal filings and victims’ statements.

A representative for one of the cardinals on list dismissed the group. The remaining cardinals or their representatives couldn’t be immediately reached by CNN for comment Wednesday.

“I’m not going to respond to this group which has little to no credibility,” said Joseph Zwelling, a spokesman for Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York.

When asked about the SNAP list, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a spokesman for the Vatican, told CNN: “We believe it is not up to SNAP to decide who comes to conclave and who is chosen. … cardinals can decide themselves without asking SNAP for advice.”

Written By: By Richard Allen Greene, Laura Smith-Spark and Hada Messia
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24 COMMENTS

  1. This is a very good idea. Naming the “worst” before anyone is elected may not prevent another pervert or pervert protector from being appointed but it won’t look like a witch hunt after the fact.

    • In reply to #1 by alaskansee:

      This is a very good idea. Naming the “worst” before anyone is elected may not prevent another pervert or pervert protector from being appointed but it won’t look like a witch hunt after the fact.

      It’s an excellent idea!

      If they decide “the warnings have no credibility” and then go ahead and appoint one of the worst, that would make some very interesting headlines if yet another cover-up was later blown!

      Anyway! Hasn’t deciding that allegations of unacceptable behaviour from the RCC worst, been rated as having no credibility, and then historically ignored for years as a matter of standard RCC procedure?

    • In reply to #1 by alaskansee:

      This is a very good idea. Naming the “worst” before anyone is elected may not prevent another pervert or pervert protector from being appointed but it won’t look like a witch hunt after the fact.

      Maybe they should have waited until one of the dodgy ones was elected, and then released the information. It’s not a witch hunt if you have data to back it up. Helping them to do their recruitment filtering will only make them look better. Who knows, with the “right” choice of pope and some new revelations we might have got a second resignation.

  2. Father Federico Lombardi ? Is he the guy who feeds the Pope’s donkey and clears up the mess afterwards? Does Ghostbuster General, Father Amorth have a grudge against Father Lombardi?

    Watch this space for exciting developments !

  3. OP

    “I’m not going to respond to this group which has little to no credibility,”

    Projection!…much?

    15 years tops…that little bunch of pretty hats in the photo will be …explaining themselves to the worms!

    And yet they have the bare faced gall to whine about a victims group having no credibility…sheesh!…every day they dig that hole a little deeper without breaking a sweat.

    What a creepy bunch of perverted delusional enablers each and every one of them!
    Even if not directly involved, which seems increasingly unlikely given recent revelations of one of their ilk, they know for damn sure who is, and they do nothing…how much integrity does that take?

    Oh yeah…none that can be confirmed after 2000yrs!

    • “Stavros, go over on that side of the group, and grill Dolan”. How’d you let him get outta New York without ‘sweat’n him????

      In reply to #6 by kidchicago:

      The only guy without a hat in the above photo looks like a dead ringer for Kojak!!!! Maybe he was waiting to grill a few suspects in this crowd!!!!!!!

      • It wouldn’t be so sickly funny if it wasn’t so sickly sad.

        In reply to #8 by kidchicago:

        “Stavros, go over on that side of the group, and grill Dolan”. How’d you let him get outta New York without ‘sweat’n him????

        In reply to #6 by kidchicago:

        The only guy without a hat in the above photo looks like a dead ringer for Kojak!!!! Maybe he was waiting to grill a few suspects in this crowd!!!!!!!

  4. Sometimes these things seem like a good idea, but they can achieve the opposite of their good intentions.

    Those listed have probably come to public notice because they are naïve and honest enough to openly make ridiculous remarks to journalists. So if this list has any real effect then, instead of influencing the selection of a new pope who’s blessed with transparent and obviously questionable ethics and intellect, we are more likely to get an unknown that’s devious, intelligent, malicious, effective, secret, and more purely evil and politically manipulative than anything previously imaginable. As Basil Fawlty once said: ‘That’s exactly how nazi Germany started.’

    A witch hunt after the fact would at least be entertaining. The consequences of an effective pope will be much less so. Plus she’d be much less inclined to quietly resign when inevitably found out. Might be more like Stalin or Jong Il Kim, who even murdered kindy teachers in case they ever revealed who’d wet their pants as a 3 year old.

    And keep in mind that Machiavelli’s ‘The Prince’ was on the index of banned books for a reason. (Presumably that it’s the secret job description of an effective pope.)

    Plus we might now lose this rare opportunity for Cardinal Pell to be exiled to the Vatican where he would be effectively removed from Sydney. That’s another seldom acknowledged driver to promote people in bureaucracies – sometimes the relevant criterion is how things will improve when they vacate their previous position rather than what little credibility they have or how bad things might get after they occupy the new position.

  5. @OP – A group representing survivors of sexual abuse by priests named a “Dirty Dozen” list of cardinals it said would be the worst candidates for pope based on their handling of child sex abuse claims or their public comments about the cases.

    Of course the faith-fool could take this as a list of recommendations for the post of pope! Protectors of the (image of the) faith and all that!

  6. “A representative for one of the cardinals on list dismissed the group”

    Their treatment at the hands of people who just dismiss them as meaningless is why they formed the group, moron.

  7. I am much in favour of a witch hunt afterwards even if only for the sake of entertainment. It would also be spectacularly damaging of the RCC to elect a Poop who is later found to be a perennial perverty and pederast!

    The list may only have those persons who have been clumsy enough not to cover their tracks and there is always the possibility that a more sinister and adept adversary has yet to be found out. Its a bit like CRB checks. A record may give you an indication of unsuitability but a clean sheet proves nothing, nothing at all.

    It is probably useful that they don’t heed criticism. I don’t want them to improve I want them to disappear. Self electing hierarchies that make appointments on the basis of who will best protect the dogma are the next best thing to hereditary office when it comes to self annihilation.

    • In reply to #17 by Vorlund:

      It is probably useful that they don’t heed criticism. I don’t want them to improve I want them to disappear.

      Yes, because, quite besides any particular evil any one of them may do from time to time, they represent only a tiresome superstition in any case.

  8. I see some of the press are naming names, with the name of the link very appropriate!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/catholic-church-still-plagued-by-cardinal-sin

    As Mary Caplan, a leader in the Survivor’s Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP), noted, “We’d all like to think there could be a transformation in the church now, but we have to face the reality that the same men responsible for protecting our abusers are going to be the ones casting the ballots.”

    First, there is Cardinal Angelo Sodano. Sodano famously described allegations of sexual abuse within the church as “petty gossip” and has been accused of intervening to halt investigations of two of the more notorious sex abuse cases involving his close associates. Although he is ineligible to vote due to his age, Sodano is responsible for convening the process through which the next Pope will be selected and he wields considerable influence and power in that process.

    Next, there is Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who served under Joseph Ratzinger before he was pope at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the entity tasked with handling allegations of rape and sexual violence by priests. Together, according to New York Times reporting, Bertone and Benedict decided to halt proceedings in the case of Father Lawrence Murphy, who had been accused of sexually assaulting over 200 deaf students at a Wisconsin school for the deaf, a story told in the new documentary “Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God.” Bertone has also expressed the view that bishops should not be required to report priests they know to be committing acts of rape and sexual assault. Like Sodano, Bertone is a highly influential figure in the conclave that will be voting on the next pope; unlike Sodano, Bertone gets to cast his own vote.

    Also voting is Cardinal William Levada. In 2004, a founding member of an independent review board investigating allegations of sexual abuse within Levada’s archdiocese in San Francisco resigned in protest, accusing Levada of blocking the release of the panel’s findings on sexual abuse allegations involving 40 priests. He was also sued by a whistleblower priest for retaliating against the priest for reporting suspected sexual assaults of altar boys by a fellow priest.

    Sodano, Bertone, and Levada are three of the most influential people involved in the selection of the next pope. Their role in the ongoing enabling and concealment of rape and child sex crimes throughout the world is so central that they were named in a Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) complaint to the International Criminal Court (ICC). On behalf of SNAP, CCR has urged the ICC to investigate high-level Vatican officials – including Pope Benedict himself – for crimes against humanity. With more than 22,000 pages of supporting materials and evidence of the crimes committed by Catholic clergy and their cover-up, the ICC complaint is an unprecedented effort to call to account individuals leading the systematic effort to sweep sex abuse under the rug. CCR is also pressing the case for church accountability in a report filed today with the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child, which will scrutinize the Church’s record on children’s rights later this year.

    Sodano, Bertone, and Levada are hardly just three bad apples in the church barrel. The group of church leaders who will be selecting the next pope reads like a who’s who of accessories and accomplices in the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal.

    Former Los Angeles Archbishop Cardinal Roger Mahony prevented priests from seeking treatment by California therapists who would have been obligated to report suspected abuse and transferred offending priests to new diocese rather than reporting them to authorities. Under Mahony, diocese officials advised an accused priest to stay out of Los Angeles to avoid lawsuits.

    Cardinal Timothy Dolan, previously the Archbishop of Milwaukee and now the president of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, authorized payments of tens of thousands of dollars to abusive Milwaukee priests as an incentive to retire. Both Dolan and Mahony were deposed in separate ongoing abuse cases last week. Such are the men who will be deciding the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church.

    Perhaps no single figure in the Catholic sex abuse scandal is more notorious than Cardinal Bernard Law, who was forced to resign as Archbishop of Boston in 2002 after the Boston Globe revealed his role in the cover-up of 250 priests and church workers who were accused of rape and sexual assault of children. After his resignation, he was appointed to a prized position in Rome. Due to his age, he is not eligible to vote in this election, but as a cardinal he can influence the process.

    Others who will be there, like Cardinal Sean Brady of Ireland, have in the past enforced vows of silence not to report abusive priests, or like Darío Castrillón Hoyos, praised church leaders who refused to report priests guilty of serial rape to authorities. Cardinal Godfried Danneels of Belgium, meanwhile denied knowledge of sexual abuse that he failed to address despite evidence that he was aware of those cases and was later recorded asking a victim to delay reporting the crime. A Philadelphia grand jury investigation into the archdiocese which was overseen by Cardinal Justin Rigali for part of the period examined, noted “[w]e would have assumed, by the year 2011, after all the revelations both here and around the world, that the church would not risk its youth by leaving them in the presence of priests subject to substantial evidence of abuse. This is not the case.”

    The church hierarchy has to date put itself and the church’s reputation above the safety of children and contributed to the worldwide epidemic of rape and sexual violence committed by priests. Vatican officials and church leaders will never be the ones to bring an end to this crisis.

    Cardinal Sodano some how also seems to be appropriately named!

    • In reply to #18 by Alan4discussion:

      First, there is Cardinal Angelo Sodano. Sodano famously described allegations of sexual abuse within the church as “petty gossip”

      A standard response by all priests apparently, and used more then once in TV interviews and directed at the ‘faithful’ congregations that gather and refuse to smell the incense of corruption and perversion wafting through the corridors of the Vatican..

      Bertone has also expressed the view that bishops should not be required to report priests they know to be committing acts of rape and sexual assault.

      That is simply illegal, what can you say to such blatant criminality?

      Under Mahony, diocese officials advised an accused priest to stay out of Los Angeles to avoid lawsuits.

      Who are these diocese officials? perversion & subsequent obstruction of the course of justice was illegal…and has that law now been repealed?

      Cardinal Sean Brady of Ireland, have in the past enforced vows of silence not to report abusive priests, or like Darío Castrillón Hoyos, praised church leaders who refused to report priests guilty of serial rape to authorities

      Bit of a pattern developing here…or is it me?

  9. Expediently, put all the guilty SOB’s in jail, sell the vatikan, give proceeds to victims.

    Timing is just right, too. Baseball is now in full swing – free all catholic youth from church and take them to a Cardinals game instead.

  10. Federico Lombardi said: “We believe it is not up to SNAP to decide who comes to conclave and who is chosen. … cardinals can decide themselves without asking SNAP for advice.”

    In other words, the victims of sex abuse can’t decide (and I suppose they can’t even protest), but the abusers can decide, attend the conclave and one of them can even be elected to be the next RC Witch-doctor. That fellow Federico Lombardi is a SOB!

  11. cardinals can decide themselves without asking SNAP for advice

    Like they can decide which priests to move on to fresh hunting grounds for kiddy tush?

    And then cover up and lie repeatedly and arrogantly blame the victims, repeatedly and for years.
    They are vile and perverted and every single follower, in fact anyone that boasts of being a Catholic, is a paedophile enabler.

    They pretend they are not, but if you actively support and defend an institution so morally bankrupt and ethically twisted, then not one of them has an automatic right to either respect, consideration or forgiveness.

    It is one thing to ignore their own delusional dogma, like birth control and attitudes towards homosexuality, and eating fish on Friday or the myriad other random nonsenses, in order to be practical and actually live in the modern world is a pragmatic and responsible reaction, but to support and defend them when the hierarchy are scraping the barrel bottom of morality in very real and meaningful ways is not acceptable…it just is not!

    The RCC as an institution does not even merit derision, they are beyond redemption, truly sub-human.
    And that can be witnessed in what they do and say…it is in front of all our noses, and it smells rank.

    Yes!… Cardinal Cormac Murphy O’Connor, your projection has been noted!

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