Caste discrimination to be outlawed by Equality Act

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Caste discrimination is to be outlawed in the UK, Business Secretary Vince Cable has announced in what is a U-turn on previous government


The House of Lords has voted twice for legal protection to be given to the estimated 400,000 Dailts – so-called untouchables – who live in the UK.

MPs overturned the first Lords vote, but after peers again backed the plan on Monday, there has been a rethink.

Mr Cable said caste would in future be treated as "an aspect of race".

Keith Porteous Wood, of the National Secular Society, said: "We are delighted that the government has accepted that discrimination against caste should enjoy the same statutory protection as all other forms of protected characteristics.

"This is a victory for the Lords and their emphasis on protecting human rights."

Campaigners had said legislation was needed because thousands of people suffered abuse and prejudice because they were considered low caste.


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    • Fair enough. But how?

      Race is a human construct. Could we abolish the concept of race? Let us take western Europe or Scandinavia as an example. At this time, this region hosts probably the most advanced, the most liberal and the most progressive societies on this planet. Yet you would be in complete denial to say that the concept of race and racial prejudice is not prevalent here. Do you really think England would have a non-caucasian monarch or even a non-caucasian Prime minister in the next hundred years?

      But of course, you are going to respond, “ha, but one can see racial differences and clearly, there are other social markers associated with it, like economic inequalities, academic achievements, cultural capital and educational attainment, that differentiates different races”

      Well, welcome to the Indian subcontinent. Just because you can’t tell the castes apart doesn’t mean a billion Indians cant. The same situation exists, but it is caste instead of race. Of course you have token examples of minorities being recognized or some sort of social upliftment working. But that barely addresses the vast swathes of people still living under abject poverty, tyranny and oppression.

      What the imperialist Europeans did to the world, is what the upper-caste Indians have done to India.

      a Spread their religion – Christianity(Europeans) vs Hinduism(Indians)

      b. Kill, maim, rape, plunder and subjugate the uncivilized, the heathens, the pagans and the tribes

      c. Exploit cheap labour through caste, slavery and indentured workers by virtue of divine rights

      d. And in the modern context, live a cushty life and lecture the rest of the world on morality and self righteousness, while exploiting the poor for their natural resources, minerals, water, oil & gas.

      Is it really that different, whether the Swiss and the Americans exploiting sub-Saharan African tribes[1] for copper or the upper-caste Indian elite exploiting the Kalahandi tribes for bauxite[2]?

      [1]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p010jx25
      [2]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-22196355

      In reply to #1 by Alternative Carpark:

      Not good enough. Abolish the very concept of caste.

  1. Let’s get this straight – the **House of Lords ** which perpetuates the centuries old British caste system is breaching the ramparts of class discrimination? Give me a break. Demographic groups are the new castes. The ‘claste’ system in the US has been becoming more extreme and firmly entrenched for several decades. The great lie that the US is a classless society continually helps obscure a truth that goes back 400 years.

    • In reply to #3 by whiteraven:

      Let’s get this straight – the House of Lords which perpetuates the centuries old British caste system is breaching the ramparts of class discrimination? Give me a break.

      Hear, hear.

  2. If I were India and were asked by a fellow countryman, especially if outside India, what ‘caste’ I was, I would tell them to get fucked!

    Those who would be discriminated against should do themselves a favour and refuse to identify with any ‘caste’, both externally and internally.

    • In reply to #5 by Alternative Carpark:

      If I were India and were asked by a fellow countryman, especially if outside India, what ‘caste’ I was, I would tell them to get fucked!

      Those who would be discriminated against should do themselves a favour and refuse to identify with any ‘caste’, both externally and internally.

      The only way to disguise your caste to others would be to change your name, not something many Asian families would like to consider (family honour and all that). I might be wrong, I was told this by a Sikh friend who would never use his surname for anything official lest his caste be known, so perhaps this is only applicable some names or only Sikhs, I am not really sure.

      • Indian surnames are a bit tricky. In the southern India, after the rationalist movements in the early 20s, people gave up their family names as it reflects ones caste. Instead they either take their fathers first name or their mothers first name as their surname. While in the north people still use caste names as surnames.

        In reply to #6 by Happy Nihilist:

        In reply to #5 by Alternative Carpark:

        If I were India and were asked by a fellow countryman, especially if outside India, what ‘caste’ I was, I would tell them to get fucked!

        Those who would be discriminated against should do themselves a favour and refuse to identify with any ‘caste’, both externally and internally.

        The only way to disguise your caste to others would be to change your name, not something many Asian families would like to consider (family honour and all that). I might be wrong, I was told this by a Sikh friend who would never use his surname for anything official lest his caste be known, so perhaps this is only applicable some names or only Sikhs, I am not really sure.

  3. There was census here (i.e. India) last year. A lady stopped by my door and asked my religion. I said “atheist” and she didn’t pay any attention and wrote it down as Hindu. She then asked my caste. Didn’t wait for a response and noted it as “forward” and left the place. I wonder why she even bothered to knock. She could have written this sitting in her office!

    Yes, this time around the “caste” question was added to the census for the first time since independence. Quite controversial. One side claim that you cannot bring in real social change without knowing which caste lives where. Other side claim that by asking that question you are keeping the evil alive.

    Yes, you dont get to fill the census form here. It is too important to be trusted with lowly individuals.

    Yes, “forward” is a caste and all brahmins belong to this category.

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