Rush Limbaugh Claims Exercise is A Left Wing Conspiracy

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On his radio show today, Rush Limbaugh claimed that diet and exercise are part of left wing conspiracy that is being carried out by liberals.


Transcript from Rush Limbaugh:

LIMBAUGH: It’s all political. It’s all rooted in the fact that I distrust liberals, and every one of these groups is a liberal group that is doing what they’re doing as a way of eating. This is how they live. They live on grants. And I happen to know this, too. Ask anybody that does a newsletter about the stock market, and they will tell you the best way to goose subscriptions is to forecast a disaster, to forecast a crash, to forecast crisis. Well, the food Nazi people have figured this out. X is gonna kill you, and you’ve got their attention. And maybe you’ll donate to their cause. And maybe you’ll become an evangel and you’ll start telling everybody else to stop doing that stuff and maybe these people have got something against the meat industry for political reasons and they’re just trying to make you think that they’re independently unbiased, all they’re interested in is your health.

Remember all this Oprah business and these people trying to get everybody hog-tied into not eating beef for a while on the basis it was gonna destroy the planet, that eating beef resulted in or caused all of these cattle to graze, and they were eating all the grass, and somehow this was causing global warming. Don’t tell me this stuff is not political. It’s all political. All of science is become politicized. All of education’s become politicized. All of the news media’s political. You point to me something that isn’t. The Catholic Church, in certain elements, has become politicized. It was taken in by the notion that welfare states equal charity, and socialism equals charity. So they became big believers in that stuff. I mean, you can’t avoid it.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest is succeeding in banning coconut oil, which is one of the most healthful oils you can consume, and they won’t let you buy it. And all these people have to do is come up with a logo, get a fax machine, fax out a press release, the media will cover it because they will report crisis and panic and impending disaster and doom. They never tell you when an airplane lands safely. It’s no big deal. I never avoided fast food, and there has been a movement against that. You take your pick. Exercise, ditto. And look at all the conflicting evidence there is about exercise.

All I’ve done is live. I didn’t even go in for this moderation business, folks. If I like something, I like it, until I get tired of it, and I move on to something else that I like. I’m not advocating replicate me, don’t misunderstand, I’m just telling you that I just know how much better everybody would be if they understood that everything like this, that all of this originates from people of a left-wing political persuasion. And of course they’ll tell you that they’re just interested in compassion and helping people and improving people’s lives and all of that, and I would contend to you that that’s the least of what they end up doing. Anyway, forget all that ’cause I know that it’s probably thinking that I can’t bring up anything without adding politics to it, but I’m telling you it’s undeniable.
 


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    • In reply to #1 by N_Ellis:

      Rush do us all a favour and gorge yourself on red meat and high fat products, do your bit to solve the planetary overpopulation problem by eating your way to a massive coronary

      You have proof that red meat directly causes Heart failure I see, please provide evidence, Rush clearly loves his carbs at face value, if you understand anything about nutrition or are you an avid reader of Skinny B*tch and the China Study? i would suggest trying both approaches to healthy eating, high fat or higher carb and which one works for you by testing your markers for heart disease, not just have an opinion you’ve never tested.

  1. What a know nothing windbag. Perhaps opiates are a right wing conspiracy; they all seem to be using—–abusing them.

    While he bloviates and shoves his face full of garbage food and drugs, he should realize that I am just as capable of judging another person as he; the difference being that he lives according to a book that forbids judgement. Some conservative, huh???

    DOUCHEBAG.

    • In reply to #2 by crookedshoes:

      What a know nothing windbag. Perhaps opiates are a right wing conspiracy; they all seem to be using—–abusing them.

      While he bloviates and shoves his face full of garbage food and drugs, he should realize that I am just as capable of judging another person as he; the difference being that he liv…

      It almost makes you want to ignore him. Although it’s like trying to ignore a bagpipe at the library.

  2. I make a point of listening to Rush whenever I’m in the States; He’s become such a parody of a right wing loon that he’s hilarious. It’s a good job that no one agrees with him…they don’t do they?

    • Many of my direct relatives are hard core conservatives and they buy into the rhetoric. They also seem to think that if you speak loudly and in a baritone then you must be correct.

      These people are what I refer to as “four R’s”:

      Rich
      Racist
      Republican
      Religious.

      In reply to #5 by Bewilderbeast:

      I make a point of listening to Rush whenever I’m in the States; He’s become such a parody of a right wing loon that he’s hilarious. It’s a good job that no one agrees with him…they don’t do they?

  3. (This occurred to me after my original post)

    Is the objective of the “Left Wing Conspiracy” to ensure the US armed services are fit (pun intended) for purpose?

    As the political party which seems to want to make use of them is the Republicans, does this mean they are deep cover liberals?

    I’m going to stop now as, double thinking, triple thinking and quadruple thinking this is making me dizzy.

    Perhaps the objective was just to reduce rational people to baffled silence

  4. Say what? Never mind. You don’t have to repeat yourself, Rush. I can’t stand your voice.

    Funny that according to much research, wealthier people in the US eat healthier and exercise more than poor people. Wealthier people are usually more prone to voting for right-wing parties while the poor are more likely to vote left-wing. So it seems to me that Limbaugh’s comrades are those who fall for this “left-wing exercise conspiracy” more than left-wingers themselves.

    • In reply to #9 by Aztek:

      according to much research, wealthier people in the US eat healthier and exercise more than poor people. Wealthier people are usually more prone to voting for right-wing parties while the poor are more prone to voting for right-wing parties while the poor are more likely to vote left-wing. So it seems to me that Limbaugh’s comrades are those who fall for this “left-wing exercise conspiracy” more than left-wingers themselves.

      You’re assuming transitivity of correlation, which isn’t correct.

  5. Unfortunately Crookedshoes and Aztek, you only need three of those Rs to be a Rush fan. Wealth is optional. Without poorer whites voting against their personal interests to prevent one penny of undeserved aid going to a black family, the Republican Party would dry up and blow away- as it is, they just blow hard.

  6. For some sanity on eating and exercising the very recent book by Robert Lustig ‘Fat Chance’ is probably the best available at present. He provides some interesting insights into the nature of political interference in these matters.

    Limbaugh has at least something of a valid point, and everyone knows it. Though he is off the rails in his shock jock approach to how he expresses it. There is a real problem with the increasing politicisation of everything. One of the inevitable consequences of socialism is increasing centralisation and regulation. Which displaces alternative and typically much more effective institutions of regulation, coordination, and leadership. The concentration of resources also creates an efficient point of leverage for highly motivated corrupting influences. The more ineffective and the more corrupt these institutions become the more resources they suck in and the more acute become all the problems these institutions ostensibly exist to mitigate.

    This means that the solution to the NCD pandemic attributable to the quality of nutrition, exercise, and sleep cannot occur via traditional government or political processes. Best spread the word on real quality information than to rely on the likes of Limbaugh or his liberal rivals in the misinformation industry.

    • In reply to #11 by Pete H:

      For some sanity on eating and exercising the very recent book by Robert Lustig ‘Fat Chance’ is probably the best available at present. He provides some interesting insights into the nature of political interference in these matters.

      Limbaugh has at least something of a valid point, and everyone kn…

      I agree that Limbaugh is onto something when he criticises the myriad groups that try to get attention by issuing questionable press releases announcing the latest “eat this” or “don’t eat that,” “do this exercise,” etc. I think media through it’s “trend reporting” loves to trumpet the latest claims of these groups because it increases readership. However, I think most of the diet industry and the unhealthy emphasis on women being skin and bones can’t be blamed on liberals. The attacks on science are typical Limbaugh denial of reality. I immediately checked Wikipedia on his health, and I was frankly surprised to find out he has not had a massive heart attack or bypass surgery. However, his addcition to pain killers has already been noted and Wikipedia stated he had been hospitalized for angina in 2009. Not exactly the picture of good health.

      I am somewhat troubled by the dig at “socialism” being responsible for the state of affairs. Who can we trust to tell us the truth about healthy lifestyles and safe drugs/foods if not government agencies created for that purpose? Who are these alternative and more effective institutions of regulation, coordination and leadership? Aren’t these precisely the organizations that are coming in for criticism here? It sounds to me like you are opening the door to quack medicine groups. No, give me the centralizaion and regulation of science based government agencies.

      • Someone like Ghandi would approve of science based government agencies. He might think it almost as good an idea as western civilisation.

        It may be a while yet before electors get around to voting in many scientists to political office. And even then it may be still further before scientists apply their own methodology to political and economic policy. The only thing any typical politician, despite their background, can afford to invest time in is in getting re-elected. And if slightly more than 50% of the voters are as stupid as they regularly demonstrate then re-election requires policies to prevail that appeal to the whims of this majority.

        One of the all-time most important concepts in economic theory is opportunity cost. Essentially that is what you don’t see because some other mutually exclusive course of action was followed. There is little sign of more effective alternative public health institutions precisely because they have been run out of town by the existing ones with the infinite line of credit, essentially unlimited budget, and nil accountability for results. (Except perhaps indirectly via politicians who implement policies directed at the marginal voters: i.e. the stupidest of the stupid.)

        The alternative quack institutions you’re referring to are not genuine alternatives. To some extent their only purpose is to make the real quack institutions look good. If you’re looking for the ideal institution to trust about public health then you won’t find one beyond yourself. Hence the book recommendation.

        Regarding Mr Limbaugh’s state of health. It’s recently become reasonably well established that it’s probably healthier to not have followed mainstream public health advice, at least regarding nutrition. With a few exceptions. Like to be consistent Limbaugh probably should take up smoking, combined with heavy alcohol consumption, and extra helpings of heavily salted processed food. But he’s only gone halfway. To some extent a diet high in fat but with sufficient variety of veges, while also relatively low in sugar and salt, and with at least enough mild exercise to enable quality sleep, can be expected to greatly offset even the impact of smoking for many years.

        The other favourable factor in Limbaugh’s surviving heart disease is his high status. Which basically means his personal awareness of how many people pay attention to him. People of relatively high social status tend to have greatly reduced stress responses, which saves a lot of wear and tear on the body. Either that or he just has an incredibly thick skin. The fact that they keep paying him to say this kind of thing might itself be a factor in why he remains healthy. A kind of placebo impact of demagoguery.

        In reply to #14 by prietenul:

        In reply to #11 by Pete H:

        For some sanity on eating and exercising the very recent book by Robert Lustig ‘Fat Chance’ is probably the best available at present. He provides some interesting insights into the nature of political interference in these matters.

        Limbaugh has at least something of a…

  7. Limbaugh aside there’s a lot of nonsense regarding “healthy living” out there. A lot of it does come from the so called left. Remember that people want to ban large sized soda and make school lunches designed for “healthy living” waifs. These people insist on “local organic food”. They want to ban “GMOs” etc. Some even overlap with the anti vaccination crowd. Some even go all whoo and look for “alternative medicine” instead of real medicine.

    • In reply to #16 by debaser71:

      Limbaugh aside there’s a lot of nonsense regarding “healthy living” out there. A lot of it does come from the so called left. Remember that people want to ban large sized soda and make school lunches designed for “healthy living” waifs. These people insist on “local organic food”. They want to ban “…

      Its not my country so I have no right to tell you what the laws should be but I think you have a very poor understanding of medical science if you think bucket sized servings of soda don’t lead to rising levels of diabetes type 2 or school meals served up by junk food companies don’t lead to early heart disease.You are not justified claiming that those who advocate for regulation are somehow connected to some anti-science movements like the anti-vaccers or anti GM crops.

      Actually, the science is fairly unequivocal that too much sugar, fat and salt damages organs. Any society worth its salt should be regulating the health of its youngest citizens to prevent them being sold crap by companies whose only concern is the share holders rate of return.

      Mind you I am a European lefty so I guess that would be my perspective.

      • In reply to #34 by mr_DNA:

        Mind you I am a European lefty so I guess that would be my perspective

        What could you possibly know, your mind has obviously been warped by socialism. Yes, I’m kidding (don’t worry it doesn’t happen often). Limbaugh is a professional idiot. I mean that literally not just that he is a very big idiot but that his very luxurious lifestyle is fueled by him saying idiotic things that get his followers rocks off and makes rational peopl angry. He wants us to talk about what an idiot he is because that keeps his name in the news and ultimately makes him more money. I think the best thing to do is just ignore him.

      • Your understanding of the issues I describe seem very poor. Perhaps you aren’t aware of some of the new laws that have been passed in my state and others. I also don’t think you have a good grasp on the American political scene. Opinions noted though.

        And my perspective is one of an American liberal democrat who is tired of the “green” crowd. Look conservation is good. Nature matters. Pollution is bad. etc. But insisting 16 year old male football players in high school are fed the types of food eaten by 12 year old dieting obese girls is wrong. If this makes no sense, perhaps it’s your ignorance on these matters.

        Watch your assumptions. I drink kale. I garden. etc.

        “Its not my country so I have no right to tell you what the laws should be but I think you have a very poor understanding of medical science if you think bucket sized servings of soda don’t lead to rising levels of diabetes type 2 or school meals served up by junk food companies don’t lead to early heart disease.You are not justified claiming that those who advocate for regulation are somehow connected to some anti-science movements like the anti-vaccers or anti GM crops.

        Actually, the science is fairly unequivocal that too much sugar, fat and salt damages organs. Any society worth its salt should be regulating the health of its youngest citizens to prevent them being sold crap by companies whose only concern is the share holders rate of return.

        Mind you I am a European lefty so I guess that would be my perspective”

        In reply to #34 by mr_DNA:

        • In reply to #38 by debaser71:

          Your understanding of the issues I describe seem very poor. Perhaps you aren’t aware of some of the new laws that have been passed in my state and others. I also don’t think you have a good grasp on the American political scene. Opinions noted though.

          And my perspective is one of an American libera…

          I can’t see anything in my comment that makes an assumption about you? And I am aware of the New York legislation about soda drinks. Seemed eminently sensible to me considering that people were drinking bucket sized drinks that alone exceeded their recommended calorie limit.
          Also, we have had a few documentaries over here about the state of the catering in many American schools. It is a problem we had over here until recently. In some cases it is literally pizza for breakfast.

          I think you are making the classic mistake of thinking that because young people need to consume large amount of calories then that means high fat,salty and sugary foods are ok. You are wrong about that. These foods damage organs and arteries whether or not the person is gaining weight or is engaging in sport.

          I run 40 miles a week so my calorie demands are quite high, but if I were to eat take away food to get my energy I would not be getting the right nutrition and would be on my way to my first heart attack or stroke.

          • What you’ve seen in a documentary from across the ocean is the life I currently live. Please stop “splaining” to me. “Bucket sized soda” is not what we are talking about. We are talking about banning large sized coffee from starbucks, for adults! We are talking about “pilot programs” (big business and money to be accurate) where states get to serve up Greek Yogurt to the kids because of a “health fad”. etc. So please, stop pretending as if you are informed about what’s going on because you saw something on tv.

            So in addition to being a liberal myself, health conscious (I grow and juice my own vegetables), I am a stay at home father of three school age daughters. Their lunches and eating habits are on the fore front of my everyday. My wife and I are very active. My wife was almost a pro-tennis player and she (at 50+) still beats 20 year old men in tournaments. We mountain bike, hike, etc. Stop telling me about “healthy living”.

            In reply to #42 by mr_DNA:

            “I can’t see anything in my comment that makes an assumption about you? And I am aware of the New York legislation about soda drinks. Seemed eminently sensible to me considering that people were drinking bucket sized drinks that alone exceeded their recommended calorie limit. Also, we have had a few documentaries over here about the state of the catering in many American schools. It is a problem we had over here until recently. In some cases it is literally pizza for breakfast.

            I think you are making the classic mistake of thinking that because young people need to consume large amount of calories then that means high fat,salty and sugary foods are ok. You are wrong about that. These foods damage organs and arteries whether or not the person is gaining weight or is engaging in sport.

            I run 40 miles a week so my calorie demands are quite high, but if I were to eat take away food to get my energy I would not be getting the right nutrition and would be on my way to my first heart attack or stroke.”

          • In reply to #44 by debaser71:

            Quick debaser71, always make sure you eat all of the fruit, juicing is throwing away the best bits.

            The bucket sized soda ban was daft especially as you can purchase something of equal calorific value virtually anywhere in NY. Drinking calories and over eating is also daft but education is the key not ineffective pointless bans that as the judge noted unfairly penalizes a few 7-11s.

          • I like to eat my fruit and drink my vegetables. But when I make green juice I generally do cut it with fruit (mainly for my wife and kids though, to get them to drink it). Also, when I use apples carrots and cucumbers I give that pulp to my dogs. (these things are ok for dogs, other things are not…check before you give your dog people food!! For example, grapes are a big no no).

            And as an aside. My brother-in-law works as a regional manager for the company that owns 7-11. NEVER DRINK FROM SODA FOUNTAINS!!!! unless you know personally and for a fact it is cleaned properly and even then, just get into the habit of not getting soda from a fountain in the first place.

            Anyway we don’t drink sugary drink at home…aside from green juice cut with fruit…I don’t think actual fruit juice can be considered bad though…but who the heck knows…I do live in NY afterall. Maybe the cops will roll into my house one day and arrest me for giving my kids freshly masticated green juice because it has “too much sugar”. “You added one too many carrots, punk!”

            edited to add: and sometimes juicing a fruit is better because you drink the seed or pit juices too. For example, I really like added dark skinned seeded grapes. Please note though that some seeds and pits are too big for some juicers and your machine might break.

          • In reply to #49 by debaser71:

            I like to eat my fruit and drink my vegetables. But when I make green juice I generally do cut it with fruit (mainly for my wife and kids though, to get them to drink it). Also, when I use apples carrots and cucumbers I give that pulp to my dogs. (these things are ok for dogs, other things are not…..

            Thanks for the dog tips, we’ve got Malamutes so they’re definitely not from the wine drink region of the world. They prefer rotting carrion, fresh mice from the long grass or elk (deer) and moose (elk) but it’s embarrassing when the neighbours catch your dogs bringing down a noisy ungulate.

            My comment on juicing still stands – that’s the good stuff you’re giving to your dogs. I can’t see the NYPD coming to pick you up just because you’ve thrown some of the goodness away and added a modest amount of sugar. Remember the law was defeated, for good reason – apparently the system worked this time so your worries about the cops seem especially misplaced. No one’s coming to take away your right to kill yourself with food or drink but education (free advice) is always a good idea. From a country that seems to equate freedom with not listening to anyone else and education with “liberal left wing” propaganda it’s a pity Bloomberg didn’t take a more measured approach that didn’t immediately die and may have help more.

            That was specifically about a massive amount of sugar available on every street corner and it STILL is. Why the failed control and successful protection of ridiculously foolish drinks would make you worry about some fruit is beyond me – this is proof that the government WILL protect your right to consume even the stupidest things.

            The most obvious difference in “7-11″ style shops in Europe and the US is the complete lack of choice in the US. It’s hard to fit in healthy food when your shop is full of soda fridges.

            Fruit juice isn’t bad, it’s just not as good as fruit. It’s fairly well documented that fruit juice as a health drink in the morning is down to the orange growers of Florida not scientist or nutritionists. There seems little point in taking the good bits out of food unless you’re looking for a refreshing drink – not nutrition. I often have a glass of water and that certainly has no calorific, fibrous or vitamin benefits but lets not pretend that “juicing” isn’t just a bit of fun and tasty.

            On the subject of sugary drinks wasn’t it a kiwi that killed herself this year with coca-cola? Apparently it was years of drinking 6# 2 litre bottles a day! It was put down to the sugar and caffeine – everything in moderation sounds about right in virtually every case.

          • In reply to #44 by debaser71:

            What you’ve seen in a documentary from across the ocean is the life I currently live. Please stop “splaining” to me. “Bucket sized soda” is not what we are talking about. We are talking about banning large sized coffee from starbucks, for adults! We are talking about “pilot programs” (big business a…

            You wrote “Remember that people want to ban large sized soda and make school lunches designed for “healthy living” waifs” and that is still readable in your first comment. So when were we talking about ” large sized coffee from starbucks”? You weren’t very specific about what “school lunches designed for “healthy living” waifs” was, but if it is serving yoghurt, is that really such a bad thing? (assuming they are not lactic intolerant). In any case I repeat, if you read my comments you will see that I have never once questioned your personal attitude to “healthy living”, and in fact I really don’t care, nor do I care about your green credentials.

            What I care about is the long term health damage being done to both our societies. The kids growing up today are the generation that may well die younger than their parents and that should be something to concern us all. it is a statement of fact that diabetes is showing a huge increase, along with various cancers associated with obesity.
            I admit that I do not have the picture you have of the American education system. However I have read in many places that public schools use private catering contractors who supply fast food menus with little in the way of healthy choices. Over here our state schools were doing the same until very recently which could explain why we are third in the obesity league table.

            Can you categorically say that is not the case and that the fact that the US is suffering an obesity epidemic is not in part caused by attitudes fostered in the schooling system? If not you can perhaps start to see where I am coming from and why I might have seen your comments as unhelpful at best.

          • I’d start at NPR to find out why greek yogurt is a fad. And why fad diets are no basis for public policy.

            In reply to #54 by mr_DNA:

            And no. not everywhere in the US are there obesity problems. Stop pretending like the US is one giant mono culture. Not everyone here is the Honey BooBoo family. Not every school is serving up pizza for breakfast.

            And here, I’ve done some research for you. Turns out that the U.K. has a higher obesity rate than my state of New York. I am unsure if links work here so here’s the bottom line.

            New York has an obesity rating of 24.5%, 36th in the U.S.
            The U.K. has an obesity rating of 26.9%

            If New York were a country (and population-wise it certainly can be) it’s be ranked 65th between Uruguay and Belarus. The U.K. is ranked 43rd between Iraq and Australia.

            So here in NY and especially where I live, feeding children diets meant for obese children in Mississippi (34.9 rating, ranked 1 in the U.S.) is not good policy.

            Google “state by state obesity rates” and “country by country obesity rates” to see where I get my data.

  8. If Rush can lead Jim Inhofe (Republican senator for Oklahoma, oil company shill, climate change denier) to an early death, it will be a huge service to the planet. (Google just held a $2500 a plate dinner for him).

    However, what Rush has shown is he just makes up his facts, without evidence, without experiment. This just helps discredit all his other lies.

  9. It’s all political.

    Limbaugh frequently argues that the observed correlation between scientific and political beliefs is due to political ideology inspiring specific stances on the science. There are other explanations, such as that the most sensible political policies appeal to more intelligent people, who in turn better interpret evidence. What’s interesting about this alternative is that Limbaugh could concede it without having to also concede he’s on the wrong side of these arguments, because this point doesn’t say which views are right; it simply explains the correlation.

    It’s all rooted in the fact that I distrust liberals

    Sometimes we have good reason to believe a speaker knows what they’re talking about and is being honest, and this is the basis for any good argument from authority, such as heeding a chemist’s advice not to drop caesium in the shower. There are times when such arguments are unreliable, but it is always a fallacy to assume something is less likely to be true because someone said it. Conditional probabilities tell us this is equivalent to them being less likely to say it if it is true. But claims never serve people’s interests or biases in a way that makes this so.

    They live on grants.

    There are lots of grants on all sides.

    X is gonna kill you, and you’ve got their attention.

    Just because faking a danger grabs attention, doesn’t mean something is more likely to be false if it makes such a claim. It’s the same fallacy again. For added irony, Limbaugh often claims there’s a danger. Indeed, every conspiracy accusation is an example of this.

    After a long tirade against giving money to health groups, and diet advice, and what he considers misinterpretations of charity, he finally discusses exercise. But first:

    The Center for Science in the Public Interest is succeeding in banning coconut oil, which is one of the most healthful oils you can consume, and they won’t let you buy it.

    Oh, really?

    And look at all the conflicting evidence there is about exercise.

    Such as?

    I didn’t even go in for this moderation business, folks. If I like something, I like it, until I get tired of it

    That’s a moderation of sorts, I suppose, though probably not what health advisors wanted.

    And of course they’ll tell you that they’re just interested in compassion and helping people and improving people’s lives and all of that, and I would contend to you that that’s the least of what they end up doing.

    What else does the medical sector do? Well, they do make profits, largely on a system people like Limbaugh support. But it’s not as if they benefit from lying about what’s healthy.

    I know that it’s [sic] probably thinking that I can’t bring up anything without adding politics to it, but I’m telling you it’s undeniable.

    I opened with a way to deny it.

  10. Pete H,

    You have to get more specific than nebulous references to agencies with “the infinite line of credit, essentially unlimited budget, and nil accountability for results.” Are you suggesting the CDC, the FDA, the HHS? Most government agencies actively support through grant-giving many scientific studies and base their decisions on the findings. Many employ scientists. Okay, I’m sure there are lobbyists trying to exert influence too. But heaven (rhetorical) help me if I have to rely on myself to determine what diets/foods/pharmaceuticals can be trusted to keep me healthy. I think this suggestion smacks of the “everyone is an expert” attitude that underpins all kinds of quackery.

    • I’m not familiar with the US institutional structure. But if it’s similar to everywhere else then, yes.

      No, everyone is not an expert. But quite a lot of people who aren’t experts can become so. And at much less cost now than in any time in human history. Quite clearly something is not right. And the experts obviously do not have the answers. The question is why? Does more money just need to be thrown at it. Or has enough money already been thrown in the wrong direction?

      In reply to #22 by prietenul:

      Pete H,

      You have to get more specific than nebulous references to agencies with “the infinite line of credit, essentially unlimited budget, and nil accountability for results.” Are you suggesting the CDC, the FDA, the HHS? Most government agencies actively support through grant-giving many scientif…

      • In reply to #23 by Pete H:
        If your paragraph starts -

        No, everyone is not an expert. But quite a lot of people who aren’t experts can become so. And at much less cost now than in any time in human history.

        and ends -

        And the experts obviously do not have the answers. The question is why? Does more money just need to be thrown at it. Or has enough money already been thrown in the wrong direction

        then, to borrow the only remaining sentence from the paragraph -

        Quite clearly something is not right.

        What are you saying in this word salad? It does not make any sense at all, not one little bit. How did you manage to get so many straw men in such little space and sense?

        Don’t trust the experts but don’t worry everyone can easily become an expert, but don’t trust the experts…. Money bad!

        So your answer to why the experts aren’t to be trusted is because they are experts and they don’t know and that they may not have enough money which they may not have spent wisely but not to worry you too can be an expert at which point presumably you can no longer trust yourself? WTF?

        The biggest problem with your post other than the lack of anything to go on is that you appear to be trying to attack every expert. That’s impossible.

  11. Rush (Mr Creosote) Limbaugh.

    We simply aren’t adapted for limitless super yummy food. Reminding people that we’re not is helpful and decent. No-one has taken the Big Mac out of his hands. Muddling in the eco concerns over palm oil (the health issues are minor. Cheap cholesterol inducing alternatives abound) is typical of his incontinent, spurious risk-flagging rants.

  12. The comments of this guy remind me one of Stanley Kubrick’s films, Dr Strangelove, in which a US general orders to bomb the USSR because he believes that the fluoridation of drinking water to reduce tooth decay is a communist plot. It’s amazing how reality can imitate, and even surpass art. Can a mighty country, like the US, afford to have politicians like the ones who, from time to time, appear in this web? Wouldn’t it be a good idea to issue mental health certificates to people wishing to enter politics? I think it would.

  13. I am almost tempted to start a rumour than Rush advocates fat cigars as the best way to impress women with virility. Perhaps I could send a raft of his dittoheads into the gene pool bit bucket.

  14. In reply to #15 by Matt G:

    I am increasingly convinced that Rush is a liberal just trying to make Republicans look like idiots.

    It can seem like that, can’t it? The same is said about Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity et al.

    I think it’s more likely they’ve just taken to heart H.L. Mencken’s famous axiom “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public,” and are exploiting it for all it’s worth.

    Limbaugh was on an episode of the Family Guy, in which he admitted his persona was fake; although Glenn Beck has said the same thing, so it may just be the standard get-out for this type when they go too far and say something truly disgusting_†_: “Hey, I don’t mean any of this stuff; I’m just a showman.”

    What is certain is whether they mean it or not, a significant number of Americans take what they say seriously. There’s a reason Limbaugh is referred to as the unofficial leader of the GOP, and there’s sometimes more than a whiff of Nuremberg about Glenn Beck’s rallies.

    These guys, in the service of big business and gazillionaires like Rupert Murdoch, have managed to convince dirt-poor, health insurance-free gullibots that socialized medicine is the work of Satan; that the desire some people of a different sexual orientation to themselves have to enter the institution of marriage is an attack on their own religious institutions and freedom; that the tiniest concession to gun control will result in a zombified King George III and his armies returning to seek vengeance; that the government should get out of citizens’ lives but ensconce itself firmly in women’s uteruses…

    And they’ve managed to achieve all this via the simple expedient of lying their asses off on a daily basis. Given they’re all super-Christian, I wonder if they ever worry that they’ll arrive at the Pearly Gates and St Peter will already have the Bible open at the bit which tells you not to bear false witness against your neighbor.

    cf.

    • In reply to #32 by Katy Cordeth:

      In reply to #15 by Matt G:

      I am increasingly convinced that Rush is a liberal just trying to make Republicans look like idiots.

      It can seem like that, can’t it? The same is said about Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity et al.

      I think it’s more likely they’ve just taken to heart H.L. Mencken’s…

      Couldn’t agree more, especially the part about socialised medical care. It’s a pity US citizens can’t look north of the border to Canada and see how it can be done. Our American relatives shriek “communism” whenever we bring it up. Communist Canada …as if?

    • Great post! I have been ruminating all day about this thread, and, I tune in to chirp about it, and you have encapsulated my thoughts. nice!

      In reply to #32 by Katy Cordeth:

      In reply to #15 by Matt G:

      I am increasingly convinced that Rush is a liberal just trying to make Republicans look like idiots.

      It can seem like that, can’t it? The same is said about Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity et al.

      I think it’s more likely they’ve just taken to heart H.L. Mencken’s…

  15. Some things are done better by the public sector, some are done better by the private sector. Lots of things are done well by a combination of both. Public health and information about nutrition and exercise really need to be led by the government. To say that it’s ‘socialism’ sounds like a shrill cold-war hangover to me. Yes, too much bureaucracy, waste and regulation can be disastrous. But so can too much deregulation. If you take the government out of public health information, research and regulation, I can’t imagine the private sector would have much interest in filling that role. So I don’t think he has a valid point, I think he’s full of shit as usual, and to say contrarily “everyone knows it” is ridiculous.

    In reply to #11 by Pete H:

    For some sanity on eating and exercising the very recent book by Robert Lustig ‘Fat Chance’ is probably the best available at present. He provides some interesting insights into the nature of political interference in these matters.

    Limbaugh has at least something of a valid point, and everyone kn…

  16. What irritates me more than the obnoxious Rush Limbaugh’s vile views. is his ability to succeed to get a platform on which he can ejects his poison effecting the health of many vulnerable Americans.

  17. When will people realize that he is just an entertainer? To dignify him as anything more is simply absurd. His comments are carefully designed for maximum effect to provoke indignation and outrage among the most people possible so that he will continue to be talked about. He knows very well that once people stop talking about him he will cease to exist. As such, his guiding principle is not in promoting right wing ideals. That’s just his shtick, much like a comedian’s material.

    No, Rush’s mantra is: “I’m discussed, therefore I am.”

  18. Hah, I knew it. Damn Lefties and their exercises. I’m gonna stop right now. Mind you, I suppose I should have really started first to make a difference but as God is my judge it’s the principle of the thing.

  19. If I’m not mistaken, his 4th wife was an aerobics instructor. She must have really cleaned his clock in his most recent divorce. I have no idea what his current wife (number 5) did/does for a living, but I’m sure he’ll be railing against it once he has to start shelling out alimony to her as well.

  20. The “good stuff” is the green juice from the leafy greens. I can eat fruit all day. Big leaves of kale….well not so much. I can eat 1 or 2 leaves but I can drink an entire stalk. Also, I don’t have to chew up a stalk of kale, and my body needs to expend less energy breaking it down.

    I’ve tried using pulp to make crackers, frozen treats, or used to add to general cooking but I find that the pulp goes bad very rapidly. It’s all squished and extruded, like you chewed and spit it out but without saliva. It’s mostly dry too (for example, if I run the pulp through the machine again, I get 2 drops of juice per bowl full of pulp).

    With my style of juicer, however, I can take out the screen and make fruit mashes or frozen sorbet. Frozen banana in with any fruit sorbet makes it creamy like ice cream…except better.

    I can go on all day about my juicer…anyway your dogs sound scary! My dogs are a poodle and a poodle mix. And I am jealous that you have elk and moose where you live. Sounds awesome. And I was kidding about the police busting me for carrot juice.

  21. I’m sorry but there’s absolutely nothing this pile of shit has to say that interests me in the least. Get back to your drug addiction, set down, and shut the f*ck up, you blow hard, blow job. Sorry for the strong language, folks, but this P.O.S. sickens me. If it were left up to people like this sub-human, we’d all be sheep, doing and saying what we’re told. “OR ELSE”. I really don’t get why this ‘mistake’ is on a cerebral web site.

  22. My company set insurance costs at a higher rate. I am eligible for “discounts” if I can prove quarterly that I was physically active by filling out an affidavit showing my physical activity for the past three months – providing I fill out the form within the one week allowed. They also have these “discounts” for weight loss as well. Ask most Americans who work for a corporation and they will tell you about their “wellness” initiative going on at their workplace.

  23. Following Limbaugh’s “logic”, I guess anti-smoking is just another left-wing conspiracy, too, and doesn’t cause lung cancer!

    Ironic that the guy with the triple chin dislikes healthy eating and thinks it’s a conspiracy! Doctors also must be liberals and in on the conspiracy, too!

    I do agree with one thing, at least slightly, we do need to live and not worry quite so much. For example, now the media is reporting that fish oil can lead to prostate cancer. A person could go bonkers just trying to keep up!

  24. And maybe you’ll become an evangel and you’ll start telling everybody else to stop doing that stuff and maybe these people have got something against the meat industry for political reasons and they’re just trying to make you think that they’re independently unbiased, all they’re interested in is your health.

    Unlike “evangelical” Rush who armed with ignorance and bigotry, has his emotive egocentric opinions, uninhibited by any actual scientific knowledge!

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