Discussion by: tjmapa
I was the person who opened up the discussion called 'How does one prove reason?'
I discussed even more with my roommate and more people from the choosing hats website. I argued the things that people like Zeuglodon and adiroth told me in the other discussion, such as logic just existing.
But they came back by asking that how do I know it exists.
I said that it is experienced/observed.
They asked how does one experience logic?
I said we just do, or through the mind.
They said that because logic is immaterial, we logically experience it, therefore it is circular. Simply saying it just exists is called an ipse dixit fallacy.
I said that the fallacy doesn't count here, but then they asked if I thought the fallacy didn't count here, how come they can't think fallacies don't count in other places?
I believe I also said that to deny the existence of logic is simply plain wrong. I don't quite remember where I said that, but I remember saying it. I think they asked why we can't deny it, and I didn't know what to say, because I don't see why denying it could ever be valid. It's just plain foolish to deny its existence.
It ultimately ended there.
What else can I say to argue this position?