Vatican to be pressed for confidential records on clerical child sex abuse

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UN committee's 'list of issues' will present Pope Francis with direct challenge to disclose whether secret deals were made to preserve church's reputation


The Vatican is to face tough questioning by a United Nations committee over the Catholic church's record in tackling child sexual abuse by its clergy around the world.

A detailed "list of issues" has been released by the Geneva-based Committee on the Rights of the Child (CRC) before the appearance of officials from the Holy See. The session is expected early next year.

The decision to ask senior Roman Catholic clerics to hand over confidential internal documents to such a high-profile inquiry marks a fresh initiative in the global debate over clerical abuse. It will present the new pontiff, Pope Francis, with a direct challenge to provide records of financial compensation given to victims of sexual abuse and disclose whether secret deals were made to preserve the church's reputation.

The UN committee's document is headed: "List of issues to be taken up in connection with the consideration of the second periodic report of the Holy See." Paragraph 11 of the CRC's document states: "In the light of the recognition by the Holy See of sexual violence against childrencommitted by members of the clergy, brothers and nuns in numerous countries around the world, and given the scale of the abuses, please provide detailed information on all cases of child sexual abuse committed by members of the clergy, brothers and nuns or brought to the attention of the Holy See."

Written By: Owen Bowcott
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  1. Could you imagine the effect on the public if the hearings were televised, with 1000s of people sheepishly admitting to sex crimes or helping cover them up, having no excuse. Let’s hope at least bootleg recordings end up on youtube. If all goes well the Catholic Church will topple.

    • In reply to #1 by Roedy:

      Could you imagine the effect on the public if the hearings were televised, with 1000s of people sheepishly admitting to sex crimes or helping cover them up, having no excuse. Let’s hope at least bootleg recordings end up on youtube. If all goes well the Catholic Church will topple.

      Do you remember the prostitute scandal at the vatican a few months ago (both men and women). It was in the news for about 3 minutes, then nothing. Amazing!!! Richard Beltzer put it best “worlds largest cult” Yeah, for you younger folks, he used to do stand-up.

  2. I hope the full scale of these atrocities will be revealed. There are thousands of victims and some will never get justice or see their tormentors punished. The other issue here is that the request is for child abuse cases only. The RCC still has to answer for the enslavement of women in the laundries, Unmarked graves have been found on the site of these prison camps! Then there is the seizure of children from their mothers, the lost generation of deportees to Canada and Australia, the genocidal stupidity over contraception.

    This enquiry will never go far enough in my mind but I hope we will see:

    Some shuffling, prevarication, dodging and wringing of hands first so that they appear to be trying to hide even further, then the Holy See being dragged screaming into the spotlight and illuminated before all humanity as the depraved, festering, cancer it really is and finally having to grovel, apologise, compensate ALL its victims and then pack its bags permanently.

    The end is nigh catlicks but there will be no parousia from your tridentine transubstantiationist tosser.

  3. Off topic, I’m looking at the image of the pope. It seems to have been cropped and slightly rotated for some (“artistic”?) reason.

    And what the heck is he holding? A wavy crucifix with two fish looking at each other and a heart in between. Seems more like a Hallmark Valentine than an instrument of torture and death.

    I think of all the poses, the subsequent editing, the… my brain hurts. But I guess it sells the product.

    Steve

    • In reply to #3 by Agrajag:

      Off topic, I’m looking at the image of the pope. It seems to have been cropped and slightly rotated for some (“artistic”?) reason.

      And what the heck is he holding? A wavy crucifix with two fish looking at each other and a heart in between. Seems more like a Hallmark Valentine than an instrument of…

      Hmmm, I wonder. Anybody out there with Photoshop skills? Maybe a bit of touching up to add a “Darwin” fish and an “Evolve” fish!

    • In reply to #3 by Agrajag:

      “… And what the heck is he holding? A wavy crucifix with two fish looking at each other and a heart in between. Seems more like a Hallmark Valentine than an instrument of torture and death. …”

      It is a crozier, based on the shepherd’s crook. This one seems to have had a cross worked into its design, to be made of wood, and to have been painted by some children at a local convent school. I suppose we can approve of the pope’s eschewal of the gold and silver of temporal monarchy. The crozier, a symbol of the Good Shepherd, is supposed to be a sign of the bishop’s authority as a source of assurance and comfort to the flock (which means, of course, that everyone must follow like good sheep).

      As to the topic: even if the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child do not succeed in obtaining the information they seek from the Holy See, it is only appropriate that the Church be put on the spot in an international forum over its appalling record on crimes against children.

      • In reply to #6 by Cairsley:

        It is a crozier, based on the shepherd’s crook.

        Thanks for that… I couldn’t see the top of the thing, and not being too familiar with church hardware didn’t realize there should be a hook on the end. One must be able to yank the sheep. ;-)

        Steve

  4. This is a great challenge that the catholic church has to face. There was an admission that such crime happen and something has to be done end this and eventually start the healing process for the victims and for the whole church itself.


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    • In reply to #12 by bluebird:

      Catholic church’s record in tackling child sexual abuse by its clergy around the world

      St.Joseph/KC Diocese just settled a lawsuit out of court for a whopping 2.25 million u.s. dollars.

      I think this is the key problem…”Out of Court”…..These religious criminals and their enablers Must be dragged into court and their trails should be Publicly accessible like every other criminal law case…..and then they should pay financial compensation to their victims….Those Sick religious criminals should not escape prison sentences….Millions of people want to SEE them go to jail….

  5. Here is a rough way to estimate the number of children molested by catholic priests over the 2000 years existence of this superstition:

    The Deetman Commission investigated sexual abuse in the catholic church in the Netherlands and found the number of children sexually abused by priests to be between 10,000 and 20,000 from 1945 to 1981. Let’s assume 15,000 over 36 years. This averages to 400 each and every year.

    In a population of 16 million with 25% catholics, this averages to 400 / 4 million = 1 per 10,000 each and every year.

    The catholic church claims to have 1.2 billion members and in most countries sexual abuse by clergy is far less scrutinized than in the Netherlands. Hence, it is safe to predict that worldwide 1.2 billion / 10,000 = 120,000 children are abused by catholic priests EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

    The catholic church grew from 0 to 1.2 billion members over 2000 years, hence we can roughly estimate the historic number to be in the order of: 1.2 billion x 2000 years / 10000 / 2 = 120 MILLION OVER 2000 YEARS.

    With most of the world’s catholics in Africa and Middle & South America, where the catholic church has a much higher grip on society and local governments turn a blind eye, this number is probably quite a bit higher.

    The magnitude of pedophilia in the catholic church was already so high that the church passed its first law against abuse of boys by its clergy in the Council of Elvira in the year 306.

    One final remark: no institution has ever had the infrastructure to move pedophile from parish to parish to parish so that they can start over again and again molesting children.

    The coverup of molesters and giving them again and again new opportunities for molestation is a crime against humanity.

  6. Fascinating that it takes this much effort to get what is supposed to be (if you believe their hype) the true and upstanding light of the word of Christ (whatever that means) to actually do the right thing. And if only it were limited to child sexual abuse.

    Still it’s going to take constant pressure from many fronts to get the RCC to actually do anything beyond wave money at it or hold secret meetings to relocate their criminal clergy. This sort of effort is nice to see.

  7. YES, they’ve been covering that sort of crap up since, well wait a minute, how old is the catholic church. I saw a documentary several years ago about a particular priest is California. Every time he got caught, they would just transfer him somewhere else and the cycle would start again. They transferred him several times, and he continued the cycle, molest-transfer, molest-transfer. If I remember correctly, one of the kids he molested did the documentary I’m referring to and that’s what got him busted. These folks better hope that there’s no god, ’cause otherwise there’s a lot of people going to be Godsmacked in the worse way.

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