Vatican to make John Paul II a saint

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The Vatican says Pope John Paul II is to become a saint.

Pope Francis cleared the way for his canonisation, expected later this year, after a second 'miracle' was attributed to the late pontiff.


The Polish-born pope led the Roman Catholic Church from 1978 until his death in 2005.

Pope Francis also approved the sainthood of Pope John XXIII (1958-1963), though no second miracle has been attributed to him.

A precise date for the canonisations will be set by a meeting of cardinals, the Vatican said.

John Paul II has been on a fast-track to sainthood since his death. Just six years later he was beatified by his successor Pope Benedict XVI.

'Inexplicable recovery'

Canonisation, the final step in declaring a deceased person a saint, requires a further miracle to be attributed to prayers to the candidate after they have been beatified.

An "inexplicable recovery" on the very day of John Paul II's beatification has been assessed as a miracle by the Vatican's saint-making department, the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, and Pope Francis has now approved that decision.

Written By: Alan Johnston
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  1. Ah yes ! I heard the Archbishop Vincent Nichols explaining the process on Radio 4′s PM . It really is very scientific, and repeatable, and there’s no room for error at any stage of the process.

    First find the beneficiary of the miracle, OK supporters of the RCC appear to be the only beneficiaries, but then it is the only TRUE church. Next send a scout up Mt Sinai to find some sap of the rare plant Moses Crapola. This has to be kept very carefully in a reason proof package. The sap is then tied to a goat which is is walked around a smited Olive Tree five times clockwise and 2/3 rds anti-clockwise. At this point the special high visibilty garments are brought into use. Mixed fibres are mandatory because the Pope has ruled that only certain parts of Leviticus are applicable in the modern world, and anyway he enjoys the odd prawn cocktail, so therefore prawns are OK but gays aren’t. The beneficiary of the miracle is then subject to stringent Catholic medical attention which proves beyond any possible doubt that the remission of the tumour could only have come about by, the beneficiary having been a Catholic, and having prayed to the then Pope, who was obviously close to God, that therefore, as there was no medical explanation, it must have been Jesus who saved this poor woman ! Truly a miracle ! Just wait 20 years to see if the beneficiary loses her faith and hey presto, we have us a miracle !

    Of course what the Saint was doing about child abusers in his church is a divine mystery never to be revealed !

  2. I think this is good. A lot of casual catholics will be turned off by this exposure to the most voodoo fringe of the RCC. This attempt to cash in on the “popularity” of JP2 will only really play well with the already deeply devoted.

  3. So he gets it for, supposedly, one person?

    What about the scientists who came up with ways to save hundreds or thousands of people? Doesn’t count if you had to think about it a bit?

    • In reply to #8 by Kim Probable:

      So he gets it for, supposedly, one person?

      What about the scientists who came up with ways to save hundreds or thousands of people? Doesn’t count if you had to think about it a bit?

      Sorry but the scientist actually had a mind of his own, so he obviously wasn’t catholic. They forgot to mention all the chemo and other medical treatment. Yeah, it probably was pope what’s his name.

  4. Every canonisation represents two cons, two lies.
    Pior to 993 the Vatican did not canonise saints. It was handled locally.
    Canonisation has been quite a fad lately.
    Prior to John Paul II there were 285.
    John Paul canonised 480.
    Ratzinger did 45.
    Francis did 3 and has two popes pending. Today, all you have to do in recover from a major illness to count as creating a miracle. I am on track! The choices today are blatantly political.

    Francis also did the 813 “Martyrs of Otranto” whose saintly miracles amounted to getting butchered by Turks while Christian. He also did a female saint from Mexico and Colombia. I think the goal is for every country and ethnic group to have a patron saint.

    Google “saint trading cards”. That kitsch fuels my disgust for Catholicism.

    • In reply to #9 by Roedy:

      Every canonisation represents two cons, two lies.
      Pior to 993 the Vatican did not canonise saints. It was handled locally.
      Canonisation has been quite a fad lately.
      Prior to John Paul II there were 285.
      John Paul canonised 480.
      Ratzinger did 45.
      Francis did 3 and has two popes pending. Today, all yo…

      Hope that you get better quickly. Nominate Louis Pasteur for thecanonical honorific when you do.

  5. If I didn’t know better I’d think they were just making it up as they went along!

    Oh wait! Um!

    Maybe I do know better.

    Seriously, when he was shot, apparently his life was saved by one of the saints, although the saint couldn’t be bothered to make the bullet to actually miss, or see that the assassin was picked up by the police for carrying a firearm in a public place. Its easy to define something as a miracle when you have such low standards or proof and are the only judge

  6. It never fails to surprise me how easy it is to become a saint. One only has to be accredited with a feat with no more efficacy than the placebo effect, and “hey presto”, there you have it. No regrown limbs or gravity defying escapes from danger required.

    The other thing that I find troubling, is the fact that the recipient of the alleged miracle was praying to some unknown in the first place. Obviously I’m not familiar with catholic dogma, but why would a sufferer be praying to a dead pope without any status in the saint hierarchy in the first place? I think I’d be going straight to the top for my miracles.

  7. Starting in 33 CE the first 35 popes were all canonised, Liberius dipped out but the next 13 were canonised all before the start of the 6th century.

    By 875, 20 more of them won their haloes

    By 1572 only 4 more

    The next one was not until 1903, since then nothing until JP 2.

    In summary, 78 Popes canonised, 77more than 500 years ago.
    This begs the question ” What sort of a bloke was Liberius.” the only one of the first 48 Popes not to be fast tracked to god’s heavenly council.

    Funny how you wait 500 years for a sainted Pope and then 3 come along in the last century. Is the Enlightenment over? Are we entering a new age of weird stuff?

    • In reply to #14 by Philoctetes:

      What sort of man was Liberius? I don’t know, but his name comes from the same Latin roots as libertine…

      I think though it is time for his rehabilitation. I had a bit of an infection over last Christmas and took some antibiotics. I also prayed to Liberius to save me. Amazingly, I recovered….

    • In reply to #14 by Philoctetes:

      In summary, 78 Popes canonised, 77more than 500 years ago.

      I think in the modern age some new canonising technology should be applied, – especially in view of the indestructibility of “souls”! They might no longer have to wait for dead popes!

      A space gun is a method of launching an object into space using a large gun, or cannon. It provides a method of non-rocket spacelaunch.

      The large g-force experienced by a ballistic projectile would likely mean that a space gun would be incapable of safely launching humans or delicate instruments, rather being restricted to freight, fuel or ruggedized satellites.- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-gun

      Minor technical problem!! Surely miraculous prayer can fix this!

      This begs the question ” What sort of a bloke was Liberius.” the only one of the first 48 Popes not to be fast tracked to god’s heavenly council.

      A canon launch, sounds like the ideal equipment for fast tracking! Surely the Vatican paintings are evidence of the location of “god’s heavenly council.”!

      In the Project HARP a U.S. Navy 16 in (410 mm) 100 caliber gun was used to fire a 180 kg (400 lb) slug at 3600 m/s or 12,960 km/h (8,050 mph), reaching an apogee of 180 km (110 mi), hence performing a suborbital spaceflight. However, a space gun has never been successfully used to launch an object into orbit.

      It seems that fast-tracking technology to above the heavenly clouds is almost available. The canonisation just needs to be of a slightly higher calibre! (Some circus performers may have some advice! – It’s more in keeping with the miraculous magic!)

      Funny how you wait 500 years for a sainted Pope and then 3 come along in the last century. Is the Enlightenment over? Are we entering a new age of weird stuff?

      Once a regular launch schedule is worked out, there could be lots more! What’s more, they could become properly “ethereal” on re-entry!

  8. Naturally we have to thank JP2 for appealing to gentle Jesus to make this woman’s tumour recede. Should we also thank Yaweh for making the tumour grow in the first place ?

    It reminds me of that old joke about the hunchback who jumped into the holy water at Lourdes. When he came out the lump was gone, – truly a miracle. Unfortunately when the second hunchback jumped in, he came out with two lumps !

  9. I suspect some of the purported miracles aren’t the real miracles. They might be concealing the real miracles behind the scenes at the Vatican. Typical of religious people: unable to distinguish a real miracle from a fake miracle.

    Many cardinals would have prayed for miraculous intercession to send paedophile investigations into recession. And they’ve had their share of these miraculous escapes. Similarly for divine retribution against money laundering whistleblowers. So they should have logged plenty of these real miracles by now. Enough to ensure they all qualify as saints.

    There’s a position vacant as patron saint of inconvenient criminal investigations.

  10. Silly me,running off to the doctor when i feel ill.Silly scientists, working so hard to make life better for us all.WHY aren’t we looking to those infallible men, the Popes who can work MIRACLES.

  11. Should one of us visit a hospital ward for the terminally ill and ask them to pray to us? In the case of someone’s unexpected recovery (a daily occurrence in any hospital) we will be eligible for canonisation. Shame there’s undoubtedly already a Saint Timothy. Oh well.

    A more serious point would be the immense displeasure experienced upon having the media rattling off these ‘miracle’ stories, as if they were in any way normal or sane things to be saying.

    • In reply to #24 by Timothy McNamara:

      …as if they were in any way normal, or sane things to be saying.

      OP -miracle being attributed to prayers

      Line from a popular country song – “some of god’s greatest gifts are unanswered prayers”.

      Nurse! Cognitive dissonance in room 47!

  12. The Australian media went into a frenzy of hyperbole when we were granted our first saint. It was embarrassing to see serious news reporters buying into this stuff and presenting it as if they were talking about a medical breakthrough or a discussion on the economy.

    • In reply to #27 by Nitya:

      The Australian media went into a frenzy of hyperbole when we were granted our first saint. It was embarrassing to see serious news reporters buying into this stuff and presenting it as if they were talking about a medical breakthrough or a discussion on the economy.

      I have to agree. I felt embarrassed being an Aussie to hear and see the media carrying on like prize pork chops about something so ridiculous as “miracles” and saints in the 21st century.

  13. You should google the list of saints the catholic church has. There’s a million of them. I think there’s even one for good bowel movements. If there was any miracle John Paul II performed, it was keeping his hands out of the alter boys pants, or maybe his Nazi affiliations under wraps. At least they’re not still breaking scientists on the rack any more.

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