Aron Ra Reveals the Tricks and Tropes of Professional Creationists

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‘YouTube Atheist’ Battles Irrationality in Politics and the Classroom

Aron Ra discusses politics, the Bible and abortion before addressing the mis-deeds of creationists. Ra labors to educate others on the correct rules and mechanisms of evolution. His video series, the ‘Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism,’ and his subsequent series, ‘Falsifying Phylogeny’ (including the Phylogeny Challenge) have been mirrored, featured, referenced, and recommended by many professional scientists, secularists, and educators, and has attracted more than 60,000 subscribers to his YouTube channel, according to his biography on his blog, The Ace of Clades. Ra’s videos are intelligent and succinct, and powerfully refute the outlandish quackery by creationists such as Ray Comfort and Ken Ham.

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  1. One of the key things to understand is professional creationists know perfectly well creationism is bogus. They are professional magicians who pretend to prove it is true by sleight of mouth, in order to earn a living. They are crooks. The best you can do is catch them cheating. You are never going to convince them, since they are already convinced but will not admit it.

    • In reply to #1 by Roedy:

      One of the key things to understand is professional creationists know perfectly well creationism is bogus. They are professional magicians who pretend to prove it is true by sleight of mouth, in order to earn a living. They are crooks.

      I’m not convinced this is the case for all creationists. I think many of them are simply ignorant and misled by the teachings of their religious upbringing. Among those, many WANT to remain ignorant and cling to their beliefs. Learning facts that contradicts those beliefs makes them feel insecure and inferior so they react like a children who become sullen and uncooperative when disciplined by a parent (because that’s how they perceive your attempt to educate them – they take it personal and feel insulted).

      It’s the mental version of placing one’s hands over one’s ears and going “lalalala” in order not to hear what the other person is saying.

      • In reply to #3 by NearlyNakedApe:

        I’m not convinced this is the case for all creationists. I think many of them are simply ignorant and misled by the teachings of their religious upbringing. Among those, many WANT to remain ignorant and cling to their beliefs.

        I absolutely agree. In fact I think that is true in general for most of the pseudoscience and myths that are discussed here. Yes, there are a few who are just out and out hucksters and liars but in general most of them actually believe it because it fits in better with their self esteem and overall mindset. Except for sociopaths all humans want to think they have justice and truth on their side. Its just one example of the phenomenon that Trivers documents so well in his book The Folly of Fools. People are hard wired to seek out information that confirms what they believe and to discount information that does the opposite. …Well all people except me of course ;-)

  2. Roedy I agree you won’t change them and the professional ones often have more than enough scientific knowledge to know they’re out and out liars. Which makes me wonder just how ‘christian’ they are given lying is definitely proscribed by their holy book, commandment nine thou shalt not tell lies.

    We just have to keep going to protect those who come across them, particularly children, who may be convinced. Lets face it most folk are not scientists and most creationists play on that perfectly. Creationists are masters at the art of conning people and unlike real scientists never need to be bogged down with facts or checking facts.

    I used to think knowing a shed load of science was necessary to fight them but actually it is far better to know their paritcular arguments well, to watch how those arguments evolve and respond just to those. The killer of course is always to point to Christian scientists who aren’t creationists in response to their evolution is an atheist plot ploy. Asking them for positive evidence for their views as well is useful, whilst pointing out that even if the tons of evidence for evolution were to disappear tomorrow the default would be don’t know not God did it.

    Creationism is money and status for old rope, they’re not going to give up easily. You can con all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time and creationists have found a lucrative niche market in the latter.

  3. I’m not convinced this is the case for all creationists. I think many of them are simply ignorant and misled by the teachings of their religious upbringing. Among those, many WANT to remain ignorant and cling to their beliefs.

    In the US maybe. Here in the UK some are convinced and very much fall into that category but because its is newer over here we have a lot of believers that our creationists are engaged in convincing that it is religiously necessary. They are actually quite uncomfortable being creationists but are because they’ve been told by religious leaders they have to be and embrace the creation ‘science’ reluctantly and as necessity rather.. Over here lots tend to skirt around and try and avoid it as a topic.

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