UPDATE: Humanists Challenge Forced “So Help Me God” in Air Force Oath

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Update: Air Force officials have agreed to administer a secular oath and to allow a revision of the written oath the Officer Trainee was required to sign to remove the "so help me God" reference. Maj. Stewart L. Rountree has written attorneys for the American Humanist Association and the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers that the entire graduating class will be informed of the option to take a secular oath and apologized for the error. "Our previous legal advisors were mistaken in advising us that it was required," Maj. Roundtree wrote. "Our current legal advisors made me aware and we will ensure it reaches all corners of our program."


A U.S. Air Force Officer Trainee is demanding that he not be forced to recite an oath that contains “so help me God” during  his graduation ceremony tomorrow.

Attorneys with the American Humanist Association’s Appignani Humanist Legal Center, working with the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers, have sent a letter to administrators at Maxwell AFB in Alabama outlining the reasons a forced statement of god-belief is not constitutional, including numerous court cases upholding the right of those who object to oaths with religious language to take a secular version instead.

Written By: American Humanist Association
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      • In reply to #5 by old-toy-boy:

        In reply to #2 by rovert:

        I don’t understand how they allow a oath to a foreign power, a made up power yes, but still foreign.

        Maybe they think god is american.

        Whaddaya mean maybe??? god IS american. And he’s coming back soon to his home state, Missouri for the greatest sporting event ever: Rapture Wipeout. Don’t you guys know anything?? ;-)

  1. The Irish Deputy PM is a heavy-duty agnostic, and in order to attend a Council of State meeting (a rare event), as his constitutional duty required, he had to take an oath containing God. He took it – it could have cost him his job and caused a constitutional crisis if he hadn’t. It is in the Constitution rather than the statutory law, therefore impossible to change without a referendum, and I for one don’t blame him.

    On another point, I would think that in view of their dismal record, the US armed forces need all the help they can get.

  2. I would have thought, that in something as technology dependent as the air-force, “In diligence,science and technology we trust”, would be more appropriate!

    Neglect of attention to such detail, is likely to lead to reliance on fail-safe emergency systems, or a “God-help-us”, or “Jesus!!!” scenario;- We know the usual effectiveness and the outcomes of those sorts of appeals to gods!

    Jesus nut or Jesus pin is the main rotor retaining nut [1] that holds the main rotor to the mast of some helicopters,
    If the Jesus pin were to fail in flight, the helicopter would detach from the rotors and the only thing left for the crew to do would be to pray to Jesus.

  3. All the hoorah could be settled by simply translating the oath into modern human.

    “I swear to do……………….. as should I fail to do so, there’ll be NOTHING to help me.”

    EDIT: That was an accident, but ‘modern human’ is a decent candidate to replace ‘atheist’. At least in terms of the connotations it has for ‘ye olde religio-moronous’. You saw it here first. I’m watching you.

    EDIT EDIT: Seriously though, someone asks “are you Christian?”/”are you religious?”
    “No I’m a modern human”. Shoves it up them a bit more than ‘athiest’, a term they’ve got locked in their hate-bank.
    Ok I’ll stop.

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