Scientists protest in Vancouver against federal muzzling

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About 100 protesters gathered in downtown Vancouver on Monday to speak out about Canadian government scientists who are being hampered from talking to the public about their taxpayer-funded research.


Prominent scientists such as David Suzuki spoke at the rally on the steps of the Vancouver Art Gallery at noon, saying the Conservative government is shutting down research on controversial topics such as genetically modified foods, farmed salmon and oil pipelines.

"We now have a prime minster intent on pushing the pipeline through across British Columbia before all the scientific information is in.  We don't make informed decisions that way.  We have to assess the information available," said Suzuki.

"We are threatened with politicians deciding not only whether or not to listen to scientists, but the kind of information that scientists are able to tell us about."

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  1. ” saying the Conservative government is shutting down research on controversial topics such as genetically modified foods, farmed salmon and oil pipelines.”

    Too late for me to go into this in depth, but….,

    WTF!!

    • In reply to #2 by old-toy-boy:

      Australia is filthy rich in solar energy, In the long term why the hell does it need any fossil fuels?

      In fact, there’s even less need than that, because Australia is the world’s second largest provider of uranium, so nuclear power would be easy as well.

      • In reply to #3 by Jos Gibbons:

        In reply to #2 by old-toy-boy:

        Australia is filthy rich in solar energy, In the long term why the hell does it need any fossil fuels?

        In fact, there’s even less need than that, because Australia is the world’s second largest provider of uranium, so nuclear power would be easy as well.

        There’s a lot of resistance to the idea of nuclear energy in Australia. I don’t think that it will happen in the near future.

        • In reply to #4 by Nitya:

          In reply to #3 by Jos Gibbons:

          There’s a lot of resistance to the idea of nuclear energy in Australia. I don’t think that it will happen in the near future.

          I hope not but with the libs back in town … :-(

          Michael

          • In reply to #5 by mmurray:

            In reply to #4 by Nitya:

            In reply to #3 by Jos Gibbons:

            There’s a lot of resistance to the idea of nuclear energy in Australia. I don’t think that it will happen in the near future.

            I hope not but with the libs back in town … :-(

            Michael

            Anything’s possible. Tony’s not getting off to a good start. Worse than I imagined.

          • If the fourth estate were any good in Australia then Tony would be about to get a lesson about over promising and under delivering. Unfortunately its not the fourth estate in Australia but the failed estate as it is Murdoch dominated and filled with PR dressed up as news, with the balance of “news” being filled with the conservative cheer squad.

            The less the Liberal (conservative) party manage to achieve, the better. Our carbon tax is FAR from perfect (in fact is is a disgrace), but its a first step and I most sincerely hope that the Libs fail to dismantle it.

            In reply to #10 by Nitya:

            In reply to #5 by mmurray:

            In reply to #4 by Nitya:

            In reply to #3 by Jos Gibbons:

            There’s a lot of resistance to the idea of nuclear energy in Australia. I don’t think that it will happen in the near future.

            I hope not but with the libs back in town … :-(

            Michael

            Anything’s possible. Tony’s…

          • In reply to #11 by Grimace:

            If the fourth estate were any good in Australia then Tony would be about to get a lesson about over promising and under delivering. Unfortunately its not the fourth estate in Australia but the failed estate as it is Murdoch dominated and filled with PR dressed up as news, with the balance of “news”…

            The Murdoch press were an absolute disgrace! I’d be very surprised if another female held aspirations for the job of PM in my lifetime. Abbott’s thinking is very much in evidence already. Simply denying the science of climate change is not going to make it go away.

            I notice that he’s stopped walking around hand in hand with his daughters. What a joke!

  2. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

    In the UK politicians have been known to sack scientists whose advice and guidance they’ve sought because that which the scientist gave didn’t fit in with their party’s agenda.

    At present there’s not one stateswoman or statesman among them in the Westminster Government. For that you have to go to the German Bundestag and Angela Merkel, who, as it happens, trained as a Physical Chemist and was a research scientist, and is highly respected internationally.

  3. In reply to #3 by Jos Gibbons:

    In reply to #2 by old-toy-boy:Australia is filthy rich in solar energy, In the long term why the hell does it need any fossil fuels?In fact, there’s even less need than that, because Australia is the world’s second largest provider of uranium, so nuclear power would be easy as well.

    Ah, but Australia is the worlds number one largest exporter of coal. (While still managing to provide 85% of their own power with it) So that would be the more ‘profitable’ energy source.
    So even in sunny oz solar power is as much of a lost cause as it’s ever been.

  4. The protest was repeated all across Canada. Steven Harper, Canada’s PM, is a climate change denier. He recently went on a tour across the country to promote pipeline development and to disparage environmentalists. He fired most of Canada’s climate and environmental scientists. His worst crime is insisting any publication or public speech by any scientist who receives government money be vetted through his office.

    This is the sort of thing you would expect from Stalin Era Russia.

    About a year ago I went to a lecture where one of the speakers was in disguise to avoid the censorship.

    Canada is considered the worst behaved global warming country because of Steven Harper.

  5. A contrarian view: the government pays these people and is entitled – like any employer – to regulate what its employees say in public. The fact that we are talking about scientists or that they are paid by taxpayers does not confer any special privileges.

    You would not expect governments to take a particularly benign view if, say, every employee behaved like Bradley Manning (or whatever she now calls herself) and leaked 750,000 classified documents to the media.

    These issues are best regulated within the framework of a workable and balanced freedom of information law, with suitable rights to court challenges if the government says no.

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