Atheist students use federal law to pursue same rights as Christians for ‘secular safe zones’

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A 30-year-old federal law created to protect the right of Christian students to gather now is being used to protect the rights of students with opposite beliefs.

This school year, the Secular Student Alliance, a national organization advocating the rights of nonreligious students, has created “secular safe zones” on 26 college and high school campuses throughout the country.

“Christianity is so prevalent in society that it’s taken as the norm and to many atheists it’s off-putting,” said the alliance’s spokesman Jesse Galef.

Mr. Galef said the safe zones — rooms or areas set aside specifically for nonreligious students — can help build community, foster service projects and educate individuals about atheism. The safe zones are overseen primarily by student leaders and faculty member allies.

In recent years, members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender movement were the first to exploit the Equal Protection Act to extend protection to new categories of students who were not necessarily Christian.

Written By: Nathan Porter
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14 COMMENTS

  1. This is unfortunately the same attitude that everyone seems to be taking today. Lets justify another wrong because of a wrong done to us. This world is not moving in the direction of liberty. It is actually moving in the opposite direction. In this country? Which country, England? I don’t know, I am just asking. I can see the atheist movement failing before my eyes & I know why. It just is not any better than the myth religions. You are just taking one lie & replacing it with another lie. Atheists hate it when christians are so relentless in their belief, so why would they suppose that just by being even more militant about there being nothing, that it would work? We do not know what is. It is ludicrous for atheists to expect the same right to be wrong as christians, to the very bone. Until atheist, & science at large can admit that we simply don’t know what god consists of, because we use so very little of our capabilities being afflicted by myth, it will fail to gain any real support.

    Meanwhile in the US, krauss is actively trying to make a law to force Americans to believe that gay sex is a good thing. By written law. I have never seen anyone as ignorant as krauss, with such a horrible compulsion to spew out his ludicrous beliefs, while fighting myth or talking physics. It is unbelievable. He aught to have gay sex for the rest of his life, just to show us that he practices what he preaches. You can not force nature to abide by written law. I wonder how krauss would react if we wrote a law forcing his views on physics to be different than what they are. What a nightmare. The guy is still talking about George Bush? Who does that? Just him. Pathetic.

    We know christianity is horribly harmful. Militant nothing is just as bad. It is a shame that science can not see the truth. & the truth is, until we find out for sure, we can’t say that there is nothing. People will never leave what they believe is their own immortality, for a chance with another guess, that pretty much looks like the worship of mortality from an outside point of view.

    I say what I say. You can listen or not. & you can continue blowing it. I am only going to tell you what I see here & now.

    • In reply to #1 by Libertyinfinite:
      Atheists do not assert there is nothing. They assert there is no evidence for any of the 10,000 gods. I am pretty sure, most would be blown away with excitement if some evidence were actually presented.

      Nearly all believers reject over 9,000 of the gods. Atheists reject the majority of the gods too.

    • In reply to #1 by Libertyinfinite:

      This is unfortunately the same attitude that everyone seems to be taking today. Lets justify another wrong because of a wrong done to us. This world is not moving in the direction of liberty. It is actually moving in the opposite direction. In this country? Which country, England? I don’t know, I am…

      Oh dear! Hope you feel better after that rant.

      “I can see the atheist movement failing before my eyes & I know why. It just is not any better than the myth religions. You are just taking one lie & replacing it with another lie”

      Please elucidate the ‘other’ lie you refer to. You seem confused about atheism which is non-belief in a deity or deities so where is the lie in this?

    • In reply to #1 by Libertyinfinite:

      How do you feel about sasquatches? You likely say “I have seen no evidence for them”. That is not the same thing as saying “sasquatches could not possibly exist. They violate the Dinghoffer condition”. It is not that they could not exist in theory, just that there is none of the expected evidence if they did — bones, hair/DNA samples, a corpse etc.

      Which is more likely when their is no evidence of sasquatches, that they exist anyway and there is some elaborate explanation why all the evidence is missing, or that they simply do not exist. Occam’s razor says the second.

      Think of god the same way. A mathematician tends to think this way. If there is no way to detect something, and it has no observable influence, it might as well not exist. It does not exist it a sense strong enough to count as existing. If there is no way of communicating
      or being influenced by parallel universes, for all practical purposes they do not exist.

  2. Resistance to rationality is futile — unless — you are committed to a religion, any religion. If so, rationality, facts, and reality may be ignored in favor of belief (whatever to hell that word signifies in reality).
    Ben Franklin proved, with his lightening rod, that God does not use natural phenomenon (any) to punish humans for impiety (note, no matter how hard God tried to punish the Cardinals when recently choosing a new pope with lightening strikes, God, with all his power, could not get past Franklin’s lightening rod! There are millions of examples, best and easily ignored by believers).
    For over a century archeologists, especially the army of archeologists from Israel after the 73 War, could not find any evidence for Moses and the Exodus (over 2 million strong) ever having been in the Sinai Desert for 40 years or for any length of time — then later, after the peace treaty with Egypt, still no record of Moses or the Exodus outside of the Bible and Torah. Hence, if Moses, as suggested by the Israeli (and a century’s worth of others) archeologists, was only a myth, then the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Bible, supposedly written by Moses the, mythological figure, are about as useful or important for determining reality as a book by Stephen King.
    Finally, one of my earliest lessons was a simple one, and it involved the power of prayer; my own dad, not against religion, but against stupid excuses, told me to “pray in one hand and crap in the other and see which filled the faster. Then he concluded, “get back to work.” Anyway, I instantly knew the answer and the importance of not accepting irrational belief as an authority and did not find it necessary to actually test my dad’s challenge concerning the power of prayer.
    However, not being a complete idiot, and understanding the power of belief over measuring belief against facts and rationality, I intellectually stay away from those who would prefer to crap in the mind instead of the hand. Tain’t worth the bother.

  3. Reading the first line really annoyed me:

    A 30-year-old federal law created to protect the right of Christian students to gather now is being used to protect the rights of students with opposite beliefs

    Atheists don’t have “opposite beliefs” to Christians (specifically in regards to the existence of a god), they simply don’t have their belief. Big difference.

  4. This reminds me of a general problem. Catholics lobby to make all possible instances of abortion including ones that kill the mother, illegal.

    You could look on this as them enforcing their religious superstitions on others.

    Or you could look on this as making a secular law about abortion. It was the way it was because Catholics think alike and lobbied on the issue.

    Imagine way back when the lobby banning Sunday shopping formed. Is this imposing the Christian sabbath or it is just a way of ensuring everyone gets a least one day a week off? You could find out by proposing a no-Friday shopping ban. If their motives were secular, Friday would probably do.

    I am not sure how it would work, but there needs to be a way to discourage a majority religious cult from imposing bat shit crazy religious superstition on everyone else. The way it is now, I think the batshit stands, so long as it is constitutioinal batshit. You would think some would be batted down by the first amendment.

  5. Heyreligiouso’s.
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  6. This school year, the Secular Student Alliance, a national organization advocating the rights of nonreligious students, has created “secular safe zones” on 26 college and high school campuses throughout the country.

    These are most needed in countries or areas where religions dominate the local culture.

    Such zones should simply be places where objectivity and social issues are not contaminated by theological mythology.
    The problem I foresee, is how a discussion on coping with intrusions of religiosity can be discussed without importing it as a topic!

    There is a limited need for these zones where science and objectivity are respected in academic institutions. A local Humanist association would probably suffice in many European countries.

  7. encourages collaboration with interfaith organizations

    …boring sitting around not reading bibles

    Not made very obvious, but is clearly spelled out in last two paragraphs, page 5, from SSZ’s PDF.

    [religious groups] should send over a stack of pizzas to secular zone cafes with a note that says “let’s talk”.

    Mr. Hazen, that’s laying it on pretty thick, bub.

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