Velvet Glove, Iron Fist: Junk science of the week, possibly of the year

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This is just sad.

 

Oreos can be as addictive to the brain as cocaine, the authors of a scientific study have claimed.





Really? Tell me more.

 

To arrive at the conclusion, Schroeder placed rats in a maze which had two routes to different treats.



In a moment you will see how apt the words "To arrive at the conclusion…" are. 

One on side, they placed rice cakes and on the other they placed Oreos. 

After the animals had explored the maze fully, they were then left to choose which treat they would prefer to stay at. 

Speaking of his findings, Schroeder said: 'Just like humans, rats don’t seem to get much pleasure out of eating rice cakes.'



Yes, because there's more energy in chocolate biscuits than there is in rice cakes.

 

The results, which showed the rodents had a strong preference for the chocolate treat, were compared to those of an identical test involving drugs. 

One on side of the maze, the rats would be given an injection of saline while on the other they were given a dose of cocaine or morphine. 

According to Schroeder, the rats in the Oreo experiment spent as much time hanging around their Oreo zone in the food test as they did the cocaine zone in the drug test, showing similar levels of addiction.



Are you kidding me? 

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28 COMMENTS

    • In reply to #2 by A3Kr0n:

      I performed the same test, and my cat didn’t prefer Oreos or rice cakes. I can conclude cats are smarter than people.

      Good news, it doesn’t prove anything but science has discovered all cats (tabbies to tigers) don’t have any sweet taste buds. Looks like that’s one more for the dogs, and humans too.

      Woof!

  1. For me Oreos are more addictive that morphine. I had a shot of morphine for a kidney stone. It did not help the pain. It made me feel much worse, similar to dizzy. I kicked the Oreo habit completely when someone told me the white filling was mostly lard.

    • Roedy,

      Most of the opiates I’ve ever ingested have made me very queasy. I had percocet and vicodin for surgeries a while back and would rather have the pain and not take them than the feeling I have when i take them.

      Oxycodone, after 3 recent eye surgeries made me jittery and itchy. I had fentanyl during the eye surgeries, but it was really to knock me very close to unconscious…. so i don’t really know what it does to me (other than make me unconscious….)

      As you have said, they really disagree with me (like they did you). Now, an Oreo double stuff? Well, they are kinda good. Lard and all!

      In reply to #3 by Roedy:

      For me Oreos are more addictive that morphine. I had a shot of morphine for a kidney stone. It did not help the pain. It made me feel much worse, similar to dizzy. I kicked the Oreo habit completely when someone told me the white filling was mostly lard.

  2. I’ve been asked on Twitter if this is a case of bad science reporting by the Daily Mail. In fact, the Mail has been faithful to the researchers’ press release so we must assume that the basic description of the experiment is correct.

    Not good enough.

    A Newspaper that can’t tell the difference between fact and fantasy. Surely that never happens.

    Peace.

  3. we chose Oreos not only because they are America’s favorite cookie…

    How much $$$ did Nabisco Co. pay for them to say that?

    ‘America’s favorite cookie’ is Nabisco’s slogan, plus the package had a closeup on the video. Product placement on steroids! An advertisement in the guise of an “experiment”. Madison Avenue is thinking outside the biscuit box.

  4. The big question here of course is did the rats eat them in the correct manner following the twist, lick and then put back together process?

    If not then this whole experiment is a complete waste of time.

  5. Hardly a fair test. The only way I’d ever eat rice cakes is if they were laced with cocaine.

    Does this test “prove” that Coca-Cola is not quite the same since the cocaine was dropped from the recipe?

    Coca-Cola was originally one of hundreds of coca-based drinks that claimed medicinal properties and benefits to health; early marketing claimed that Coca-Cola alleviated headaches and acted as a “brain and nerve tonic”.[4][5] Coca leaves were used in Coca-Cola’s preparation and the small amount of cocaine present in the product gave the drinker a “buzz”.[5] In 1903 Coca-Cola removed cocaine from the formula, substituting caffeine as the stimulating ingredient, while dropping all the product’s medicinal claims.

    Since 1929, the beverage has contained only trace amounts of cocaine alkaloids, which do not have any drug effect.

    • In reply to #10 by Alan4discussion:

      As stimulants go, cocaine is a far higher high than caffeine. Personally, I prefer analgesics like opium though. The only time I really crave sugar is after I smoke weed.

  6. The Daily Mail?!

    They print anything that will sell copy, and in all probability even if they hadn’t received this report they would have made something up along the same lines; they do it all the time.

    However, it has to be said that the editor made a bold and correct decision to print the front page headline MURDERERS, on February 14 1997, and show pictures of Gary Dobson, Neil Acourt, Jamie Acourt, Luke Knight and David Norris, the thugs who killed Stephen Lawrence. The strap line read “The Mail accuses these men of killing. If we are wrong, let them sue us.” ; I had that very edition in front of me as I wrote this post.

    Sorry mods, I went a bit off subject there I’m afraid.

    • In reply to #12 by Stafford Gordon:

      The Daily Mail?!

      They print anything that will sell copy, and in all probability even if they hadn’t received this report they would have made something up along the same lines; they do it all the time.

      However, it has to be said that the editor made a bold and correct decision to print the front…

      So they can get lucky when writing on crime.
      However this is the newspaper that continually prints articles attacking man made global warming, publicly supports Andrew Wakefield and believes they were right to report that MMR causes autism ( after he decamped to America to get work from fundie funds ) and that smoking one joint of cannabis can cause irreparable psychosis.
      I’ll take my science reporting elsewhere.

      • In reply to #13 by mr_DNA:

        In reply to #12 by Stafford Gordon:

        So they can get lucky when writing on crime. However this is the newspaper that continually prints articles attacking man made global warming, publicly supports Andrew Wakefield and believes they were right to report that MMR causes autism ( after he decamped to America to get work from fundie funds ) and that smoking one joint of cannabis can cause irreparable psychosis. I’ll take my science reporting elsewhere.

        I’ve no wish to defend the Mail as most of the time it is truly despicable. In addition to its illiberalism, immigrant bashing and so on, it’s a purveyor of some of the worst kind of pseudo-scientific crapola. It isn’t even consistent: one week it’ll be Two Glasses Of Tomato Juice a Day Cancer Cure; ten days later, Tomato Juice Link To Early Onset of Alzheimer’s.

        That being said, Stafford is quite right regarding the paper’s role in the eventual conviction of two of Stephen Lawrence’s killers. And it wasn’t luck but rather a rare instance of decency and integrity from this rag.

        • In reply to #20 by Katy Cordeth:

          one week it’ll be Two Glasses Of Tomato Juice a Day Cancer Cure; ten days later, Tomato Juice Link To Early Onset of Alzheimer’s.

          Those two statements are not logically inconsistent, though admittedly their tone leaves much to be desired.

  7. I heard this on the radio and had to laugh. I couldn’t believe it was actually being reported. Watch a racoon rummage through the garbage, they’re not eating the tomatoes first. We have one fat bastard of a racoon under our back porch and he didn’t get that way eating rice cakes. He wouldn’t make it through winter if he only dined on the rice cakes.

  8. I’m taking back my like of this article. Damn libertarians are always confusing, hold the right views for the wrong reasons… Mea clupa. Should have looked at the research objectively instead of getting swept up by emotional rhetoric. If this was a test I failed.

  9. Yes, the Daily Mail did the right thing with regard to the Stephen Lawrence case, but I wonder if they’d have taken the same line if Stephen had not been the clean-cut, well-behaved youth he was. Suppose he’s been a bit of a rascal – nothing evil, but prone to minor misdemeanours and skipping school. I have my doubts.

  10. Yeah I remember reading about that experiment and thinking how stupid it is. Given the binary choice, the rats are always going to choose the item that gives more ‘pleasure’ whether it is a lot more pleasure or a little more pleasure. This has nothing to do with addiction.

    What’s more, they apparently did not even bother to put oreos up against the hard drugs!

    Pathetic, really.

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