An Ex-Muslim Explains Why Her Community Needs Help

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Robby Bensinger recently sat down with Marwa Berro, the ex-Muslim blogger behind Between A Veil And A Dark Place, and their conversation covered everything from the concept of “Islamophobia” to how we could all help make things better for ex-Muslims, as Berro explains below:

We are black sheep. We are rejected by many of the people and organizations that socialized us. Those of us who are public are accused of being imperialist tools of the West, of getting paychecks from Zionist organizations, of being part of a larger agenda of globalization and other such ludicrous nonsense.

Also, and this is sickening, horrifying, the women among us are often subjected to the crudest forms of misogynistic threats of rape and violence for daring to advocate for human rights. Our causes are routinely reduced to a desire to legalize sin and fornication and lewdness (all imagined evils) and any humanistic values we endorse are brushed aside as a mere front.

Many of us are also in hiding, and bear significant social and material costs for being what we are. Apostasy bears a great social burden in Muslim societies. At the very least, we are shunned, outcast, disowned if we were to go public. Others of us simply cannot. We live in places with such inescapable codes of living that we are not free to choose a nonreligious life and must continue to practice rituals of faith as though we believed, and are thus forced to suppress ourselves, and live a lie.

 

Written By: Hemant Mehta
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14 COMMENTS

    • In reply to #1 by Stafford Gordon:

      This is fascism dressed up in frocks and funny hats.

      That’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with either, it’s just the use to which they’re put.

      Sorry… What?

      • In reply to #2 by obzen:

        In reply to #1 by Stafford Gordon:

        This is fascism dressed up in frocks and funny hats.

        That’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with either, it’s just the use to which they’re put.

        Sorry… What?

        I’m sure he means there’s nothing wrong with frocks and funny hats…

      • In reply to #2 by obzen:

        In reply to #1 by Stafford Gordon:

        This is fascism dressed up in frocks and funny hats.

        That’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with either, it’s just the use to which they’re put.

        Sorry… What?

        Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. I kind of like funny hats but I can think of a few things that are wrong with fascism.

      • In reply to #2 by obzen:

        In reply to #1 by Stafford Gordon:This is fascism dressed up in frocks and funny hats.That’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with either, it’s just the use to which they’re put.Sorry… What?

        What’s described in the article is fascism: paranoid accusations, repression, terror tactics etc. Doing and saying such things in the name of religion doesn’t alter the fact.

        There’s nothing wrong in dressing up.

        S G

          • In reply to #6 by Fritz:

            In reply to #5 by Stafford Gordon:

            There’s nothing wrong in dressing up

            Have you thought this thru? I’m thinking Ku Klux Klan…

            It’s not the outfits that make the man, the KKK borrowed theirs from stylish Spanish catholic priests. That’s the point, it’s the head not the hat.

          • In reply to #6 by Fritz:

            In reply to #5 by Stafford Gordon:There’s nothing wrong in dressing upHave you thought this thru? I’m thinking Ku Klux Klan…

            I think I expressed myself clearly enough.

            If Muslim women suffered this kind of treatment at the hands of the state or politicians, it would be seen as fascism pure and simple, but dressed up sartorially and semantically as religious doctrine it somehow escapes full and due criticism in the media.

        • But religions provide so many opportunities – it’s almost as if religions were invented by fascists?

          In reply to #5 by Stafford Gordon:

          In reply to #2 by obzen:

          In reply to #1 by Stafford Gordon:This is fascism dressed up in frocks and funny hats.That’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with either, it’s just the use to which they’re put.Sorry… What?

          What’s described in the article is fascism: paranoid accusations, repressi…

  1. Its interesting to hear female muslimish perspectives and it must have been great for her to meet others like herself.
    Marwa was brave to have gotten through it all and out of it. The ex muslim atheist movement is really important because it needs insiders to know how to appeal to the majority of ordinary muslims and encourage them to push for secularism in their own countries….

  2. Every time I see a clown dressed in his kkk costume or a camel jockey dressed in his desert costume, the dudes in their little black dresses(priests) and women in penguin costumes, I wonder why they forgot their trick-or-treat bags.

  3. I saw a long documentary about the history of the Dark Ages produced by the History Channel. I despair at how crazy modern day Christians and Muslims are. Things used to be much much worse. Somehow we muddled out of it. Today we have the Internet, cheap books, magazines, telephones and radio to help with the job.

    The good news is the Christians and Muslims are flat out wrong. The more the question is examined, the more obvious that becomes. The problem is human nature means they would sooner die that admit they were wrong. Perhaps we need to focus not so much on proving them wrong, but on convincing them nothing terrible will happen if they admit they were wrong.

  4. It comes as a surprise to some Westerners if and when we end up educated enough to teach white children their own languages, if our English is impeccable, our diction refined, our knowledge of Western identity and gender politics well-formulated.

    I’m sure she’s saying something interesting, but I had to give up half way through after reading stuff like this too many times. Since when did British or American people express shock and surprise that foreigners can speak good english? It’s possibly an aspect of western culture which she has yet to appropriate, but we expect foreigners to speak english. And shout at them when they don’t.

    MCOGB are a bunch of jerks. Sure, fine. Yes I agree. I got that much. But the rest seemed very … abstract, to the point of literally being hard to understand. Interspersed with apparent BS like this. Does anyone have a cliff notes version?

  5. Islam is not the only religion that is so strict, Zoroastrianism is strict too. Like Islam they have to pray five times a day, have to use the language of the revealed book, and women must cover their hair. However, Zoroastrians were doing this thousands of years before Islam.

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