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IN RITUAL BATHHOUSES OF THE JEWISH ORTHODOXY, CHILDREN ARE SYSTEMATICALLY ABUSED

 

Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg—who is 63 with a long, graying beard—recently sat down with me to explain what he described as a “child-rape assembly line” among sects of fundamentalist Jews. He cleared his throat. “I’m going to be graphic,” he said.

A member of Brooklyn’s Satmar Hasidim fundamentalist branch of Orthodox Judaism, Nuchem designs and repairs mikvahs in compliance with Torah Law. The mikvah is a ritual Jewish bathhouse used for purification. Devout Jews are required to cleanse themselves in the mikvah on a variety of occasions: women must visit following menstruation, and men have to make an appearance before the High Holidays such as Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Many of the devout also purify themselves before and after the act of sex, and before the Sabbath.

On a visit to Jerusalem in 2005, Rabbi Rosenberg entered into a mikvah in one of the holiest neighborhoods in the city, Mea She’arim. “I opened a door that entered into a schvitz,” he told me. “Vapors everywhere, I can barely see. My eyes adjust, and I see an old man, my age, long white beard, a holy-looking man, sitting in the vapors. On his lap, facing away from him, is a boy, maybe seven years old. And the old man is having anal sex with this boy.”

Rabbi Rosenberg paused, gathered himself, and went on: “This boy was speared on the man like an animal, like a pig, and the boy was saying nothing. But on his face—fear. The old man [looked at me] without any fear, as if this was common practice. He didn’t stop. I was so angry, I confronted him. He removed the boy from his penis, and I took the boy aside. I told this man, ‘It’s a sin before God, a mishkovzucher. What are you doing to this boy’s soul? You’re destroying this boy!’ He had a sponge on a stick to clean his back, and he hit me across the face with it. ‘How dare you interrupt me!’ he said. I had heard of these things for a long time, but now I had seen.”

Written By: Christopher Ketcham
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23 COMMENTS

  1. This sounds a bit like those stories about Jews eating babies. The author saw one instance. The man could have had Alzheimers.

    The follow on says others have discovered this is common, but police are reluctant to act, just as with Catholic priests.

    On the Internet, entrapment is considered fair play. Perhaps the same technique could be used with these folk.

    If a non-religious organisation were doing this, it would be shut down immediately. Churches must not be excluded. We seem to think if some criminal behaviour has been tolerated for a long time we are obligated to continue ignoring it.

  2. There is something that does not ring true about this story. When I was six there was no way my anus would have accommodated an adult penis. It would be very awkward, painful and bloody. In his story the child does not seem to be in the least distress. Perhaps this had happened hundreds of times before.

    • In reply to #2 by Roedy:

      There is something that does not ring true about this story. When I was six there was no way my anus would have accommodated an adult penis. It would be very awkward, painful and bloody. In his story the child does not seem to be in the least distress. Perhaps this had happened hundreds of times be…

      You’d be surprised how such thing play out. A six year old’s vagina is equipped by evolution to destroy an offending penis with muscle spasms. In Africa, there is a colloquial name for this. This makes the anus the preferred site of abuse. They can’t accommodate… not without severe health problems, often lasting into adulthood. It is unfortunately, a very common thing.

    • In reply to #2 by Roedy:

      There is something that does not ring true about this story. When I was six there was no way my anus would have accommodated an adult penis. It would be very awkward, painful and bloody. In his story the child does not seem to be in the least distress. Perhaps this had happened hundreds of times be…

      My four year old has been taking dumps, for the past couple years, that would put a grown man to shame. I wouldn’t find it hard to accept.

  3. “This sounds a bit like those stories about Jews eating babies. The author saw one instance.”

    Before you post inanities – why not read the article itself and the documented cases. The baby eating jew as well was clearly propagandist inventions. Here we have a case where a man was caught in the act, the son was taken to hospital and a concerned parent was involved and the perp later convicted of an offense: “According to Rabbi Rosenberg, the rapist he caught in the act was a member of the modesty squad, which charged him with the unconscionable offense of having previously been seen walking down a street in Jerusalem with a married woman.”
    Sounds like Alzheimer, eh? Propaganda anybody?

    It is possible now to state a theory – because the facts seem to not falsify it: Any close knit community that has a undemocratic power structure, is lead by individuals with little restraint on their behaviour and has problems with the concept of sexuality as a normal human function will have child abuse as its relief valve.
    The catholic church, fundamentalist religious organizations – including muslim, hindu, buddhist etc., Schools like the Odenwald School in Germany all are examples that bolster that theory.
    And one can almost predict with certainty know – a sign of a valid theory: whoever rails loudest against homosexuality is usually engaged in homosexual and/or child abuse activities.

    • In reply to #4 by kraut:>

      Before you post inanities

      Check out the home page of vice.com
      It is not exactly a reputable source. This is such a sensational story, I don’t think it wise to accept it on face value. It may well be right, but it needs to be corroborated.

    • In reply to #4 by kraut:

      Any close knit community that has a undemocratic power structure, is lead by individuals with little restraint on their behaviour and has problems with the concept of sexuality as a normal human function will have child abuse as its relief valve.

      I object to that based on theories of rape, that it is not a sexual release. Rape has nothing to do with libido. It is about sadism and power, or a pathology such as a serial killer who can not orgasm without killing. In my study of these things, I find such institutions are susceptible to being overtaken by pedophiles. They have an appeal. There is also a phenomenon of engaging people in blackmail worthy activities(like any cult), and so such power structures can produce instances of abuse.

      Though, I do concede to the general point that child-abuse is a problem of these institutions, i only disagree on the mechanism.

      This fucking site makes me drink. Please excuse if I don’t check back on this thread. It’s not because I don’t value input or arguments against my assertions.

      • In reply to #8 by This Is Not A Meme:

        In reply to #4 by kraut:
        I object to that based on theories of rape, that it is not a sexual release. Rape has nothing to do with libido. It is about sadism and power, or a pathology such as a serial killer who can not orgasm without killing.

        I realize that is a standard bit of PC dogma but it just doesn’t make sense. For many men, I would even hypothesize most men, there is always an aspect of domination and power that is inevitably associated with sex. One of the largest genres of porn is S&M. If we say that all the men who get off on that aren’t really engaging their sexual drive we’ve redefined the sexual drive to make it meaningless. S&M isn’t just confined to a small percentage of deviants the way sociopathic behavior is.

        Note this doesn’t mean that rape is in any sense justified. This is one of the few questions where I agree completely with Sam Harris that our moral condemnation of rape demonstrates that humans are capable of rising above the drives we get from our genes and natural selection and that is a very commendable thing about us.

        • In reply to #10 by Red Dog:

          In reply to #8 by This Is Not A Meme:

          I realize that is a standard bit of PC dogma but it just doesn’t make sense. For many men, I would even hypothesize most men, there is always an aspect of domination and power that is inevitably associated with sex. One of the largest genres of porn is S&M. If we say that all the men who get off on that aren’t really engaging their sexual drive we’ve redefined the sexual drive to make it meaningless. S&M isn’t just confined to a small percentage of deviants the way sociopathic behavior is.

          This is where rape-culture is involved. The frat-boy serial date-rapist might not fit the psyche profile of Albert Fish, but rather it’s the culture that instills the values that lead to this misbehavior. The same is seen in post-Apartheid South Africa and in war where for thousands of years rape is SOP. Twisted values and settings can create this problem, and that would be consistent with (what I believe you are saying of) Harris (whom I haven’t read). We can overcome, and we can also fail miserably.

          Point being, horniness in itself has never caused a rape. There must be a moral failing. If we see a trend (such as best documented in the Catholic Church), it might be fair to evaluate the unnatural and abhorrent attitudes towards sex, but there is a deeper evil. For instance, if it is true that Jewish power institutions are prone to abuse, one may argue circumcision establishes a chattel mentality where children are dehumanized, turned into property, with no sovereignty over their very bodies and sex, and more readily abused. In the absence of moral failing, I don’t see how rape is possible.

          • In reply to #11 by This Is Not A Meme:

            In reply to #10 by Red Dog:

            In reply to #8 by This Is Not A Meme:

            I realize that is a standard bit of PC dogma but it just doesn’t make sense. For many men, I would even hypothesize most men, there is always an aspect of domination and power that is inevitably associated with sex. One of the large…

            Regarding Harris, at the beginning of the Moral Landscape book he mentions rape as an existence proof against the naturalistic fallacy. I.e., if morality is just what is natural than rape would be moral which clearly it isn’t, hence we need something to define morality beyond what is natural. Actually, I hadn’t thought of this before but it also applies to an ongoing debate I have with Zeuglodon about whether things like reciprocal altruism and kin selection can explain all we need to know about morality. By either theory rape would still be moral as long as the rapist knows he wont get caught and he rapes a stranger and that clearly is inconsistent with most people’s definition of morality.

            As for rape culture, I agree it exists and shouldn’t exist. If you are saying that rape culture facilitates rape I agree. If you are saying that rape wouldn’t exist without rape culture I disagree. That was my point, that the common PC wisdom that rape has nothing to do with sex is just something people say because it sounds good but it’s not consistent with what we know about the sex drive in humans and other primates.

          • In reply to #12 by Red Dog:

            In reply to #11 by This Is Not A Meme:

            In reply to #10 by Red Dog:

            In reply to #8 by This Is Not A Meme:

            As for rape culture, I agree it exists and shouldn’t exist. If you are saying that rape culture facilitates rape I agree. If you are saying that rape wouldn’t exist without rape culture I disagree. That was my point, that the common PC wisdom that rape has nothing to do with sex is just something people say because it sounds good but it’s not consistent with what we know about the sex drive in humans and other primates.

            Then we fully agree. I suppose I see rape culture as an agent that promotes immoral behavior in the otherwise moral, similar to arguments concerning religion.

            I pose this thought experiment: If we were to increase a man’s libido, is there a threshold at which he would become a rapist? I say no. Even driven mad with sexual desire, the act of rape is so inhuman, vile, and involved, to perpetrate it there must be something malign in the individual.

            I hear your criticism of the rape=/=sex argument as PC pablum. No doubt, it is used lazily to demonize/otherize rapists. It has that appeal. I believe it’s value is in evaluating the mechanism. In the absence of immoral dispositions, can rape happen? Does libido assure rape? Even those with a rape fetish are not more inclined towards rape, given they have a moral center. Einstein defined fetish as the sexualization of the inherently non-sexual, and I believe this then holds true for the theory on rape I assert.

            The behaviors of rapists are consistent not with horny men, but with predators. The process they go about, priming their victims, escalating the threat and challenge to themselves, eventually targeting other men… this is not sexual. That’s one category of rapist, and rapists of a less extreme disposition I attribute to rape-culture (conditions no less pathological or immoral than the aforementioned psychos).

      • In reply to #8 by This Is Not A Meme:

        In reply to #4 by kraut:

        One the other hand, ducks rape. I presume they do it to spread their genes.
        On the other hand, bulls anally rape other bulls, which presumably is a way of expressing dominance.

        • In reply to #14 by Roedy:

          In reply to #8 by This Is Not A Meme:

          In reply to #4 by kraut:

          One the other hand, ducks rape. I presume they do it to spread their genes.
          On the other hand, bulls anally rape other bulls, which presumably is a way of expressing dominance.

          You’re gonna need moar hands. Female ducks have a labyrinthine vagina to prevent unwanted insemination. Rape is so regular the species has developed safeguards to assure the female’s role in sexual selection.

          • This is what happens when we allow certain groups to make up their own rules and form their own hierarchies.
            They no doubt feel that they are the law(arbitrator) within their group.
            Religion is so unbelievably tiring and depressing!
            I bet this is what will happen if Sharia Law and Sharia court are tolerated as well.

            In reply to #16 by This Is Not A Meme:

            Female ducks have a labyrinthine vagina to prevent unwanted insemination. Rape is so regular the species has developed safeguards to assure the female’s role in sexual selection.

            http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/12/22/ballistic-penises-and-corkscrew-vaginas-the-sexual-battles/

            Although I can’t see how it can be described as rape.
            Its just that Rape, seems to be an excessively humanized description of duck behaviour.
            Also I wonder what survival advantage were gained by these changes to the reproductive organs.

  4. I’m certain these things happen, especially among right-wing power-circles, but I’m not satisfied with the evidence here. I hate Judaism and am eager to attribute more evil and suffering in the world to the vile doctrine, but I need more evidence for such a grave matter. I don’t find Rosenberg problematic, but unfortunately there are precedents for what evidence is needed to believe such a claim.

    Pedophilia scandals involving groups like the CIA and GOP, are often accompanied with bizarre conspiracy theories, and sloppy thinking which serve to implicitly discredit real allegations. It’s so muddy, and our very epistemology is thrown by the horrors involved. For instance, we only recently learned that children tend to lie about these things at a rate comparable to the disappointment of the Asche Conformity Test or Milgram Experiment, as opposed to the age old assumption that children’s innocence precluded falsehoods about such abuse. We find ourselves dealing with witch-trial reasoning, and it’s hard to keep a level head on this subject.

  5. He had a sponge on a stick to clean his back, and he hit me across the face with it. ‘How dare you interrupt me!’ he said. I had heard of these things for a long time, but now I had seen.”

    I would have beaten the sick, arrogant fuck to death right there and then. Things like this confirm for me that there really is something like pure evil and reinforces my agreement with Sam Harris when he says that events like this positively preclude the existence of a good God.

  6. The Mafia learned its tactics of controlling its membership from the church. You must commit a crime to become a member. The Church fears its priests the most, they are more educated than the flock they control. What better way to control their priests than to enlist them early and nurture them into a homosexual or pedophilic lifestyle.
    The church as an institutions creates the nasty, abusing priest from a teenager they entrapped.

    • In reply to #17 by sciling:

      The Mafia learned its tactics of controlling its membership from the church.

      Are priests the result of earlier sexual abuse? Are nearly all Catholic boys abused?

      I suspect it is not that hard for a pedophile priest to convince a child the child did something wrong, and then blackmails the child, or uses it for control.

  7. I only skimmed the article, found the style rather annoying. It was interesting, though, how many other people immediately found it untrustworthy. I’m not saying there couldn’t be truth in it, but there certainly wasn’t much corroboration. Maybe it could have been an effective call to action, or to investigation, or an instigation for more people to come out, but as an expose it seemed far too flimsy.

  8. I saw a documentary called Nanking about the Japanese capture of Nanking in WWII. It is gut wrenching because much of it is elderly Chinese tearfully recalling horrific events with a candour you don’t get in the west.

    The usual pattern was to capture a girl 10 to 13 years old (or
    failing that a teenage boy), draw lots on who goes first, gang rape, then torture the girl to death.

    Why not just hire a prostitute? I speculate that by picking such young victims, they are assuring they are unlikely to carry an
    STD. By killing them, the soldiers are assuring any young
    girls they encounter are virgins. By torturing her, they are just extending their pleasure. After all, why did they
    enlist if not to hurt people. Japanese soldiers who raped 20,000 girls at the fall of
    Nanking in 1937 explained they were simply bored. They expressed no guilt or regret. It
    is a feature of every war. Check Google images, with safe mode off, for “war rape”.

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