Elizabeth Hasselbeck interviews (and praises) Ken Ham | Why Evolution Is True

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This was, of course, on Fox News. Elizabeth Hasselbeck, who was the immensely annoying conservative foil on the chat show The View, and was subsequently fired, has now found an appropriate home at “Fox & Friends”, a morning chat/news show.  And although she avers that she’s neither conservative nor liberal, she shows her true colors in this interview with über-creationist Ken Ham, which ran yesterday. They begin by talking about the unconscionable atheist billboards that appeared in Times Square, and Ham goes on to describe atheism as an “anti-God religion.” Isn’t that some kind of oxymoron?

From The Raw Story:

Ham said that his group, Answers in Genesis, had put up its own billboards in Time Square, including one that says, “To all our atheists friends: Thank God you’re wrong.”

“Our message to the atheists is, hey, we’re not attacking you personally but we want you to know the truth, that there is a God who created you and you are sinners as all of us are, but that God sent his son to become a babe in a manger,” he insisted.

Hasselbeck agreed that the American people “seemed to be with you” because a conservative polling organization had found that most people believed that Christmas should be more about Jesus Christ than Santa Claus.

“The atheists are only a small part of the population,” Hamm said. “And really, it’s that minority, less than 2 percent of the population, that seem to be having such say in our culture, in imposing their anti-God religion.”

“What they’re really doing, the atheists, they’re really wanting to impose their anti-God religion on us, on the culture. And so we need to stand up against that.”

Written By: Jerry Coyne
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28 COMMENTS

    • In reply to #1 by Liandro:

      A lot of things don’t help make me angry, however, calling atheism a religion really pisses me off.

      They desperately want atheism to be labelled as a religion don’t they. Almost like it’s a bad thing . . .oh, hang on!

  1. Where do you start with with the likes of Ken (Hearts and Minds) Ham ? A delusionist, opportunist, would be money grabber, lier for Jesus. His fantasy Creation Museum so misrepresents the findings of science, it would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

    And now, surprise surprise, an ex Fox broadcaster, gives him a favourable interview.

    I don’t know about Beethoven rolling over, but Jesus surely must have groaned ?

  2. I said in another thread this atheist billboard is counterproductive and a complete shot in the foot. It could hardly have been better designed to antagonise. It is a red rag to a bull. All a casual reader will see is references to food, parties, overindulgence… and assume that’s what an atheist Christmas is all about.

    I don’t blame the god-botherers taking pot shots. Atheist left them an open goal to shoot at.

    Silly beyond measure, and a giant leap backwards.

    • In reply to #4 by Stevehill:

      I said in another thread this atheist billboard is counterproductive and a complete shot in the foot. It could hardly have been better designed to antagonise. It is a red rag to a bull. All a casual reader will see is references to food, parties, overindulgence… and assume that’s what an atheis…

      The best Christmases are about food, wine, overindulgence, presents and getting felt up by your employer’s receptionist at the company party. What else is it for, apart from the arguments with in-laws, of course?

    • In reply to #5 by Lonard:

      I thought Ken (the Dino Rider) Ham was in jail. Oh no, that was Kent Hovind.

      Maybe he was confused over the percentage of atheists in the PRISON population, rather than the US population as a whole!

      @OP – “The atheists are only a small part of the population,” Hamm said. “And really, it’s that minority, less than 2 percent of the population,

      that seem to be having such say in our culture, in imposing their anti-God religion.”

      Poor old deluded Hammy, – seems to think having such a comical say in US culture, in imposing his anti-science religion, is not a laughable comedy act for those watching from educated states.

      “To all our atheists friends: Thank God you’re wrong.”

      To all our Hammy friends: Thank Zeus you’re even wrong about being wrong.

      Elizabeth Hasselbeck, . . . . has now found an appropriate home at “Fox & Friends”

      Fox – seems about the right level of “intellect” and “integrity” for Ham – and Hovind.

  3. It’s not in the spirit of Christmas to kick Jesus out of the festivities. The manger scene is a delightful piece of folklore. He deserves a small place in the background, even if Charity Family Friends Food get more prominent billing. A Ken Ham Christmas, in the shadow of a tortured body nailed on a cross, has little appeal, surely. If Ham is offended by Christmas jollity, so much the worse for him.

  4. I was very surprised when I first discovered that Ken Ham was a fellow Australian and that he was actually educated in Australia.

    I can see why he went to USA, we wouldn’t stand for his nonsense here. He’s a dork and he even says “haitch” instead of “aitch” for the 8th letter of the English alphabet. Perhaps he was Catholic educated.

    Why is it that USA harbours so many dumb people? Ken Ham and Ray Comfort are typical of those who have reached America’s fair shores to build fortunes on the idiocy of Christian belief.

    • In reply to #13 by AfraidToDie:

      Christians have another religion besides Christianity based on their own logic. Their other religion is NOT believing in the Muslim religion.

      And, not accepting reason…

  5. If you see religion as a means to control people’s thinking in order to get their money, then because atheism threatens these objectives and presents a different way of thinking, Ham and those like him probably reason: atheism is doing 50% of what we define religions as doing, and therefore the money part must be coming later, once the thought control is in place.

  6. In reply to #4 by Stevehill:

    I said in another thread this atheist billboard is counterproductive and a complete shot in the foot. It could hardly have been better designed to antagonise. It is a red rag to a bull. All a casual reader will see is references to food, parties, overindulgence… and assume that’s what an atheist Christmas is all about.

    I don’t blame the god-botherers taking pot shots. Atheist left them an open goal to shoot at.

    Silly beyond measure, and a giant leap backwards.

    I’m a little curious, Steve: if you yourself celebrate Christmas, what does it mean to you? All the stuff you mentioned is exactly what Christmas is about to me: friends, family, gifts and celebration for the sheer darn Santa-lovin’ heck of it.

    Golly, I’m getting excited now. Only three more days. eep

    Personally, I think the billboard is great. Conservative Christians like Ken Ham and Bill O’Reilly wield Christmas as a weapon; and, like abortion and gay rights, it’s one of the biggest in their arsenal. They’re right too that there’s a war on Christmas. What they don’t mention is they’re the aggressors. It’s they who want to ruin the festival for everyone else.

    I’m usually pretty tolerant when it comes to Christians. If they aren’t doin’ sex stuff to kids, bombing planned parenthood clinics or dragging gay people to their death behind pick-up trucks, then best of luck to ‘em says I.

    But keep your hands of Christmas, please, you followers of Jesus. It’s about kindness, fun and goodwill to all mankind, so why in the name of all that’s holy would you imagine it had anything to do with you?

    • In reply to #17 by Katy Cordeth:

      All Christmas “means” to me is a date in the calendar determined (erroneously, by four days) to coincide with the winter solstice, the point when the days start to lengthen again, and celebrated long before Christianity for that reason alone.

      That said, I have two young kids and we “do” Christmas like lots of atheists do. I don’t mind having some designated time for spending time with family, giving gifts and all the rest, and since we all get time off work at Xmas it seems as good a time as any. And I’ve seen my kids’ two nativity plays at school. I’m even doing two church services: last week, for my kids’ school carol service, and another carol service tomorrow where my girlfriend (a gifted soprano) is singing. And a few weeks back I went to yet another church for Handel’s Messiah, in which one of her students was a soloist. The Devil does not have all the best tunes.

      And atheists make themselves look silly if they think there is any point at all in having a “war on Christmas”.

  7. Watching the reality deniers on Fox and the like makes me feel like an anthropologist who has gone back in time to watch some ancient myth believing society worshiping ancient “gods” and spinning stories of the mythical past around the community bonfire. It’s absurd in its context, amusing to watch, and pathetic in its context… a culture embedded in past mythology and rooted in uneducated, ignorant societies. However, I really do believe the zeitgeist is changing. Every poll shows that the percentage of “nonbelievers” is growing–rapidly. While there will always be a fairly large percentage of Americans who will continue to believe in myth (after all, two national studies in the last five years demonstrates that 40 percent of Americans believe “everything” they hear, see, or read on the Internet), the facts about reality are spreading quickly and the logic of questioning “faith” without evidence is catching fire everywhere. As for me, I try to ignore the crazies and spend my time doing something productive… otherwise, these things would make me exasperated!

  8. Sorry USA, Ken is one of ours. You’re welcome! so is Rupert Murdock & Mel Gibson. You’re welcome too! Still you did give us Mc Donalds, KFC & ridiculous copyright and patent laws (thanks to free trade agreements) so I suppose in the grand scheme things all balance out.

  9. As it happens, Ken Ham is up for Dim Bulb of the Year 2013, in case you want to go give him your vote. I really despise David Barton, whom KH is up against in this round, so it is going to be a bit of a “which is worse” of really, really bad, for me. Hitchens also despised David Barton, who worked to get the secular works of Thomas Jefferson written out of school textbooks. So did McLeroy. McLeroy is the central figure in the movie (see him talk about it with Colbert) “The Revisionaries,” but Barton comes up there as well. Both do damage to our schools, but it is still hard to beat Ken Ham for outright stupid.

  10. In reply to #21 by Quine:

    As it happens, Ken Ham is up for Dim Bulb of the Year 2013, in case you want to go give him your vote. I really despise David Barton, whom KH is up against in this round, so it is going to be a bit of a “which is worse” of really, really bad, for me.

    I like the chart showing the draw around 2min 37. Hammy made it past the first round, but there is stiff competition in there!

    • In reply to #22 by Alan4discussion:

      In reply to #21 by Quine:
      I like the chart showing the draw around 2min 37. Hammy made it past the first round, but there is stiff competition in there!

      I think this round will go to Fischer, Hovind, Barton and Cruz, although that is not how I voted.

  11. Religion=Belief in one or more supernatural authority Atheism=Non-belief in any supernatural authority.

    Dear supernatural believers, your way of thinking has been defeated over centuries, and now it is being defeated at accelerated rate. You cannot escape the reality. At least in the west, the believers` population is shrinking. This includes USA, and definitely Canada and many parts of Europe. Live with it!

  12. I’m rather irritated that people like Ken Ham say that we are imposing upon them this supposed “anti-god religion” when I can clearly remember walking to school one morning and being accosted by anti-abortion protesters who were holding up graphic pictures of aborted fetuses as they handed out bibles and told 12-13 year old students they were going to hell if they had sex before marriage. The same group had tried their detestable display in front of numerous schools, including elementary schools. I have no sympathy for these whack-jobs and their imaginary plight.

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