Fatwa: Women who swim in the sea commit adultery, should be punished

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"When a woman goes swimming, as the word for sea is masculine, when "the water touches the woman's private parts, she becomes an 'adulteress' and should be punished."

 - Summary of a report titled "The misguided Fatwas of the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis", as published in the Al Masry Al Youm.

A report by a committee set up by Al Azhar, one of the oldest and most prestigious Islamic universities in Cairo, to study the fatwas issued by the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis reveals how Islamists view women.

The findings of the committee's report were published in the Egyptian newspaper Al Masry Al Youm. In all, the committee studied 51 fatwas issued by the Brotherhood and the Salafis during President Mohamed Morsi's tenure.

According to the report, "the fatwas issued by both groups (the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis) regard women as strange creatures who are created solely for sex. They considered the voices of women, their looks and presence outside the walls of their homes an 'offence'. Some even went as far as to consider women as a whole offensive."

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56 COMMENTS

  1. So if the word for ‘sea’ is masculine then as the water touches the ‘private parts’ of Muslim men who enter the sea, they become homosexuals and should be punished?

    No? Only the women then? Thought so.

    • In reply to #1 by BenS:

      Muslim men who enter the sea, they become homosexuals and should be punished?

      Yes! Absolutely! They must face whatever punishment is prescribed for homosexuality. Just taking a flying-azzed guess here, I’d say the punishment is death.

    • In reply to #1 by BenS:

      So if the word for ‘sea’ is masculine then as the water touches the ‘private parts’ of Muslim men who enter the sea, they become homosexuals and should be punished?

      No? Only the women then? Thought so.

      Yeah, they don’t seem to really think these things through, do they?

    • In reply to #1 by BenS:

      So if the word for ‘sea’ is masculine then as the water touches the ‘private parts’ of Muslim men who enter the sea, they become homosexuals and should be punished?

      No? Only the women then? Thought so.

      I read the original article; which also mentions that the sun is masculine.
      Therefore one should not allow the sun to shine on one’s arse?
      What fantastically funny material for satirical TV programs!

    • In reply to #2 by sunbeamforjeebus:

      Perhaps we can encourage Sayeeda Warsi to have a dip at Brighton! For fuck’s sake what next from these morons?Is the word for air masculine?

      Now then, I can’t be absolutely sure, but I do remember something about the word “air” meaning “penis” in Middle Eastern Arabic dialect. I speak a hacked version of North African dialect where the word for penis is different, but maybe someone who speaks M.E. Arabic will confirm my vague recollection. Is Fouad out there? He might know. Anyway, if I’m right then air definitely IS masculine! :-) Happy to be of service :-)

  2. This is an excellent report to come from an august Islamic University. I am a little worried, though, that the same university appears to have promoted breastfeeding male acquaintances. It really does seem that the men who worm their way into the fatwa business are either misogynist sexophobes or incorrigible al Quagmires. Perhaps they start as the latter and droop with age into the former?

    • In reply to #6 by Vorlund: Probably not … as evidenced by their silence.

      Sigh, the attitudes of these nutters towards women is not even whimsical.

      Thankfully the majority of those who consider themselves muslims probably also regard it as arch stupidity.

      • In reply to #25 by Free Speech:

        In reply to #6 by Vorlund: Probably not … as evidenced by their silence.

        Silence implies neither assent or consent. It would have to be taken in the context of behaviours in which it is observed. While I do not see thousands of muslims posting complaints or attacking this sort of nonsense, that may simply be due to being raised in cultures where dissent is answered by considerable menace or it may be just plain ill mannered. There is also the possibility that they do not consider the fatwas worthy of a reposte. There is something to be said for not condescending to consider the ill-formed propositions of those we regard as imbeciles.

    • In reply to #7 by Manuelig:

      They are stuck in the 2nd century!! This will end when the arab women start their revolution

      Oh joy! When will it start? Tomorrow? Oh I hope so! If not then I hope it’ll be in my lifetime!

  3. Egyptian muslim men must be the most insecure little dweebs I can imagine. Women must cower around, afraid to hurt the feelers of these immature, sexually repressed little babies. To Mormons, Satan controls the water. Superstitious nonsense occurs in all religions. However, Islam seems to be a special case.

      • In reply to #28 by Free Speech:

        In reply to #10 by Blasphemyman: There is no Allah.

        If Allah inspires the brain damaged buffoons that deliver these fatwas ; then clearly he’s the chief moron!
        Allah is purely imaginary ; it’s a pity that such a statement is interpreted as hate rather than contempt !

  4. What!! You mean even their burkinis won’t protect them???? Horrors!!!
    Muslim girl is ordered by German judge to wear a ‘burkini’ at her school swimming class after she refused to take part as it was against her religion

    • 13-year-old Muslim girl felt uncomfortable being close to bare-chested boys
    • She asked to opt out of swimming classes or receive special instruction
    • Court ruled ‘social reality of life in Germany came above her religious beliefs’
    • It’s a landmark case in Germany which has more than five million Muslims

    A German court has ruled that a young Muslim girl must attend mixed swimming lessons at her school wearing a ‘burkini’ – a full-bodied costume which includes a head-covering.

    The ruling is an important one for the country which has over 5million Muslims, most of them Turks, in the population.

    The girl had complained that she felt ‘uncomfortable’ going swimming with ‘bare chested’ boys near her and either wanted to be allowed to skip the lessons or be given special instruction on her own.

    The girl, whose family come from Morroco, was represented by a lawyer in Wednesday’s hearing who said that according to the Koran, she was not only forbidden from showing herself to boys but also from seeing the topless boys.

    But the court said: ‘The plaintiff has not made sufficiently clear that taking part in co-educational swimming lessons with a burkini breaches Muslim rules on clothing,’ rejecting her appeal against earlier decisions by two courts in the western state of Hesse.

    Religions really do have strange effects on the brain!!!

    • In reply to #11 by Alan4discussion:

      13-year-old Muslim girl felt uncomfortable being close to bare-chested…

      Gee, I wonder if she’s being threatened and intimidated by anyone in her family…because I’ve actually never met a 13 year old girl who was afraid of 13 year old boys with a bathing suit on. I’m glad the government stepped in and gave this girl the chance to learn a life saving skill like swimming and the opportunity to socialize freely with peers of both sexes.

  5. You do get the impression that women who breathe air ought to be eradicated somehow. Why the heck do we bend over backwards to accommodate this asinine religion as a viable component of human society?!!

    • In reply to #13 by FrankMill: We don’t. Our Western elites do. And, if you’re a Brit, you have Cameron, who is a truly special case of Islamoidiocy, even worse than Obama.

      You do get the impression that women who breathe air ought to be eradicated somehow. Why the heck do we bend over backwards to accommodate this asinine religion as a viable component of human society?!!

      • In reply to #27 by Free Speech:

        In reply to #13 by FrankMill:

        You do get the impression that women who breathe air ought to be eradicated somehow. Why the heck do we bend over backwards t…

        We don’t. Our Western elites do. And, if you’re a Brit, you have Cameron, who is a truly special case of Islamoidiocy, even worse than Obama.

        I’ve never found David Cameron or his administration to be particularly accommodating with regard to Muslims, whether native British or worldwide. Would you care to elaborate?

      • In reply to #27 by Free Speech:

        In reply to #13 by FrankMill: We don’t. Our Western elites do. And, if you’re a Brit, you have Cameron, who is a truly special case of Islamoidiocy,

        I thought Cameron gave a strong speech against multiculturalism back in 2011?

        Michael

        • In reply to #38 by mmurray:

          I thought Cameron gave a strong speech against multiculturalism back in 2011?

          He did – and in your link, his Tory party chairwoman and token multiculturalist cabinet Muslim muppet, backed him up!

          Conservative Party chairman Baroness Warsi hit back, saying that “to smear the prime minister as a right wing extremist is outrageous and irresponsible”.

    • In reply to #20 by yvrous: In typical Western mythology, the sea is feminine. Islam is not typical Western mythology, however.

      Sea(mer in France) is feminine like in ‘La mer méditerranéenn’.

      Lucky French Muslim girls!

    • In reply to #20 by yvrous:

      Sea(mer in France) is feminine like in ‘La mer méditerranéenn’.

      Lucky French Muslim girls!

      Not really, the french for clitoris is masculine as is the word for bosom so they can’t touch either of those.
      Also penis is masculine so if they want any of that they need to do it in slang as the equivalent of cock or dick (la bite) is feminine.
      On a less sexual note, they can stay inside the house (la maison) but not go in the garden (le jardin) . Likewise, they can stay in the bedroom (la chambre) or kitchen (la cuisine) but not go in the sitting room (le salon). Vive la France! Fortunately for the muslim girls, that’s feminine.

    • In reply to #22 by Alternative Carpark: They went to the live with the moderate Muslims.

      Whatever happen to the REAL Egyptians — the ones who pioneered paper making, wrote in hieroglyphics and built the pyramids? When did these Musulman imposters take over?

      • In reply to #31 by Free Speech: omit the first “the” …

        In reply to #22 by Alternative Carpark: They went to the live with the moderate Muslims.

        Whatever happen to the REAL Egyptians — the ones who pioneered paper making, wrote in hieroglyphics and built the pyramids? When did these Musulman imposters take over?

  6. Every time I read these stories the first thing that comes to mind is how insecure and immature these men really are. I mean, they sound like boys who think they can get “girl germs” from touching or even looking at women. In fact it’s not that surprising since the men who issue these fatwas are old farts who probably haven’t even seen a naked baby in their whole life. In these societies there are no healthy relations between men and women. The first woman a man is having a real relationship with is his wife. Often a complete stranger chosen by his parents. In many cases I guess it’s the first woman (besides close relatives) that this man has even had a real conversation with. It’s completely absurd. It’s like these cultures are forever stuck somewhere between kindergarten and highschool. I mean, grown-ups who’s imagination of heaven (the pinnacle of the almighty god’s creation) is all about having sex with virgins. Talk about being sexually frustrated!

    • In reply to #23 by Nunbeliever: Actually, they’re more like toddlers, stuck at that stage where they fear, loathe and worship women. Freud would have a great time with Muslims.

      Every time I read these stories the first thing that comes to mind is how insecure and immature these men really are. I mean, they sound like boys who think they can get “girl germs” from touching or even looking at women. In fact it’s not that surprising since the men who issue these fatwas are old…

    • C’mon, everyone knows that girls have cooties! Sugar and spice and COOTIES!!!

      In reply to #23 by Nunbeliever:

      Every time I read these stories the first thing that comes to mind is how insecure and immature these men really are. I mean, they sound like boys who think they can get “girl germs” from touching or even looking at women. In fact it’s not that surprising since the men who issue these fatwas are old…

  7. However cruel, inhumane and immoral it would be the thought that these idiots might one they get rid of all their women might actually result in something positive. Then at least they would not be able to reproduce and perhaps this idiocy would finally go extinct.

    • In reply to #24 by Nunbeliever:

      However cruel, inhumane and immoral it would be the thought that these idiots might one they get rid of all their women might actually result in something positive. Then at least they would not be able to reproduce and perhaps this idiocy would finally go extinct.

      Grimms Brother’s version of ‘Reuben & Rachel’.

  8. When religious mutters of any faith get it into their heads that they are guardians of the well-being of their duped flock, then they tend to have absurd ideas of how to “protect” their people from alleged harm.

  9. A man decides though his own delusions about morality that women have committed an offense against a moral code and need to be punished. The man decides the penalty for breaking his made up moral code is death.
    If no religion is expressed as the basis for the personal moral code, the man is a mentally ill serial killer.
    Otherwise he is culturally different?

  10. Sexual frustration is at an intolerable level for young adults in the Middle East and North Africa. There is no way to have an honest acceptable relationship with another person. Marriage, the only acceptable sexual relationship, is blocked for most due to the extremely expense that goes with it. Wedding parties are expensive and gold must be bought as a gift to the bride, etc. There is no housing for newlyweds and their own paternal residence is probably filled with three generations already.

    Sneaking around on the sly to have a romantic relationship could get someone killed in this part of the world. This is too risky to even consider, especially for a young unmarried woman. Loss of virginity outside of marriage will prompt a violent reaction from the males in her family. Some of the women will want to dispatch her as well.

    Sexual frustration in combination with the volatile political situation in these countries is a dangerous combination, not to mention the daily grinding poverty, corruption and sense of complete and utter hopelessness that these young people experience on a daily basis. I have 50 nieces and nephews, more or less, in Algeria who are all suffering from this stone age mentality that is imposed on them. They’re good kids and just want a chance to live a decent simple life. Thanks to the internet and satellite tv they have a clear view of exactly what they are missing out on.

    The stupid fatwa in the article above is actually not what’s keeping women off the beaches in North Africa, by the way. It’s the extreme sexual harassment on the beaches by their own men. There are miles of beautiful Mediterranean beaches that are still in pristine, unspoiled state but they are dominated by (sexually frustrated) mostly young men who flock there in summer. When females show up there they are a target for that harassment and it’s quite aggressive I can tell you that from personal experience.

    Something’s gotta give here.

  11. @OP – A report by a committee set up by Al Azhar, one of the oldest and most prestigious Islamic universities in Cairo, to study the fatwas issued by the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis reveals how Islamists view women.

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  12. Bang on, if we let women away with swimming in the sea, who knows where it might lead. Soon they will be asking to drive in Saudi, and then we are on the slippery slope to voting rights and equal pay and eventually be expecting equality.

    Please don’t tell my wife I said that!

    BTW: Just be sarcastic (thought I should clarify that)

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