“To Heaven and Back”

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Discussion by: RickM

CNN’s Anderson Cooper will be airing a special on Sunday (12/1) at 7 PM Eastern by the title of "To Heaven and Back".  I saw a short part of a promo and apparently this program will interview people that claim to have died, gone to heaven, and returned.  Yep, this is going to be on CNN.
 
Please, please let the the folks know about this.  I intend to watch and I’m sure I will have something to say to CNN (they do have a contact page).
 
RickM
 

20 COMMENTS

  1. Its more about ratings than actual journalism. Religious people are desperate for any proof of the supernatural and CNN is catering to them the title itself initially suggests truth to such Christian magic, so Christians will turn their t.v’s on right away.

  2. Please, please let the the folks know about this. I intend to watch and I’m sure I will have something to say to CNN (they do have a contact page).

    I share your feelings about how stupid this is. However, it’s kind of ironic that you are giving CNN exactly what they want by promoting it like this (not your intention I’m sure). If anyone thinks that CNN is going to be less likely to run things like this due to some outraged letters by atheists they don’t understand how media companies work. They love controversy. The reason they run things like this is because they hope people will talk about it and if the CNN marketing head saw your comment here he would be thinking “Ratings Gold!! How can we offend MORE atheists?”

    IMO, the best reaction to this kind of drivel is to ignore it. Read a book instead.

    • In reply to #4 by Red Dog:

      Please, please let the the folks know about this. I intend to watch and I’m sure I will have something to say to CNN (they do have a contact page).

      I share your feelings about how stupid this is. However, it’s kind of ironic that you are giving CNN exactly what they want by promoting it like this…

      So if we can’t affect major change, we should remain invisible. No thanks.

      • In reply to #8 by RickM:

        In reply to #4 by Red Dog:
        So if we can’t affect major change, we should remain invisible. No thanks.

        No. That isn’t what I mean at all. In fact in general I’m often one of the people who urges others to get more involved and take political action. I’m more politically active than 99% of the people who comment here. I get involved in most elections, e.g. by phoning people to get out the vote from my home.

        My point was not that people shouldn’t attempt to make change it is that you are deluding yourself if you think what you are doing in this case is actually going to make any change.

        I’m not saying don’t take political action, I’m saying don’t waste time. Don’t spend your time on something that will if anything have the opposite effect of what you intend.

        I know a bit about how big corporations like CNN work and about political organization. CNN would love what you are doing. What you are doing is exactly their wet dream for any story like this, that outraged people will gen up controversy and buzz and get lots of people to watch the show and write in. Your campaign if it has any effect at all is making these kinds of programs more likely not less, especially for a company like CNN that is losing it’s audience to the Internet and dying to do things to stay relevant and controversial.

  3. I would choose not to watch it. I have experienced quite a bit in my life , and as of this day , i have not absorbed anything through my senses that would make me believe there is a god.

    Also theres quite alot of reality tv , really harmful cynical programming , just too much to let it all bother me.

    Hell If i come accross it i’m sometimes even entertained.

  4. I’d like the interviewer to ask,”are you sure you had the visions as you “died”, or was it after your heart had restarted?” Just to see the look on the face of the person claiming this. How do they know when they coded and how do they know when they “turned back”?

    A little bit of journalistic integrity and perhaps some challenging, skeptical questions would go a long way towards making me think more highly of CNN (or ANY news outlet), BUT that won’t happen, now will it?

  5. The title would have been better with a question mark at the end.

    I have had an out-of-body experience. In 1986 I was hit by a wave whilst frolicking in the sea in the Seychelles.
    For a few seconds, I “saw” myself struggling, as a non-swimmer, under the water before somehow making it back to shore.

    “God” was nowhere to be found in my time of need, the impotent bugger.

  6. My television-set broke down and I have not got round to getting it repaired. I am now thinking of dumping it, because life without it has been so much better in various ways. I get more reading done, I exercise more, I interact with others more, I see more sunshine and breathe more fresh air. If there is a programme that I really would like to watch, I do so on my laptop. But it is just so good not to be bombarded with so much mental mush anymore.

    You have to be pretty close to brain-dead just to watch television for any length of time, so this CNN programme on quasimortal experiences will suit those who are in the habit.

    Sorry, RickM, I will not be watching this (if it ever gets an airing where I live).

    • In reply to #9 by Cairsley:

      My television-set broke down and I have not got round to getting it repaired. I am now thinking of dumping it, because life without it has been so much better in various ways. I get more reading done, I exercise more, I interact with others more, I see more sunshine and breathe more fresh air.

      Hi Cairsley. Here around Toronto they’re changing tv channels to HD digital, but if I want to see them I need to go get a free digital box & (my 4th!) remote. I haven’t bothered so now I get ~45 out of 60+ basic cable channels, but only watch a few of them so I’ve hardly noticed between my reading & website bouts.

      My 2005 pc recently died from heart failure, so I got a new pc with all the space, power & video speed I need, so my tv is pretty lonely except when good rational stuff is on – plus some car & bike sports. I’m lucky that video games do nothing for me – except the on-line racing simulators that 2 pals have, using custom full cockpits & active controls, which are soooo addictive I’m lucky to live not too close to them…. 8-)

      My Blackberry isn’t web connected, so I ‘only’ have cell & e-mail, which is enough for this pre-digital-age retiree, although I see all the digi-stuff around the motor sports I work with & in. This weekend was the finale of the Cdn Rally Series ‘only’ 250kms away with ‘my’ 3 car Team running, 1 of which was 1st all day until a camshaft broke. I’m usually there working but I had a date with 1970′s car pals so I followed the snow & ice action on-line, which is cool with live timing, tweets, FB pix & videos from media quadracopters.

      Re the OP, I make enough meaning in my one life to have zero interest in what some credulous folk want their inner-mind-activities to represent…. 8-) Mac.

  7. Is it a transcript of an interview Wendy Wright that RD includes in The Greatest Show on Earth?
    I think it goes something like this.

    WW “There’s no evidence. Show me the transitional fossils.”

    RD “They are in museums. You can go and look at them.”

    WW “There’s just no transitional fossils…”

    RD “Yes there is.”

    etc

  8. For a man who was willing to take on scientology’s bullshit PR, I am baffled by his submission to such flimsy anecdotal evidence as a ‘news’ piece worthy to put his name on it.

    I’m searching for the whole piece, hoping that things are taken out of context, but all I’m getting so far are the witness’ exalted testimonies and not a hint to contradict them.

    Sheeeiiit. I never thought Anderson as a hard-edge journalist, but I didn’t expect him to burst in the Oprah flames so easily.

  9. Heaven always reminded me of Hilbert’s Grand Hotel where an infinite number of guests can stay. However many turn up, there is always room for more.

    Perhaps Hilbert had it wrong, and the hotel was full when these poor souls turned up ? St Peter on the desk, would have to send them back to mere earthly toils !

    • In reply to #15 by SaganTheCat:

      I know it’s wrong but I’d be so tempted to make up a NDE and describe my vision of hell. oh and mention i’m a jew

      This is no good as many Christians will no doubt rejoice at the knowledge that Jews go to hell and you just “Proved” it You will be shocked at how little evidence is required by the faithful when the results are what they want and expect, while a whole natural history museum is not enough for evolution… All of Science is a buffet, take what you like leave the rest. ( Much like the way they treat the Bible)

  10. You ought to read about the effects of hypoxia on the human brain. They are a lot like Ketamine, which is a popular street drug with some college kids now, which is incredibly stupid being that it is used as horse or human child anesthesia. Anyway, both have effects that parallel those after-life stories too closely to ignore. You can’t stop people from wanting to believe spectacular lies because it’s fun to imagine them being true. We will forever be plagued by stupidity, especially in the media.

  11. It seems to me that all of these “After Life Experiences” have all been able to be recreated in the lab, or more precisely the centrifuge. When the human brain is deprived of oxygen odd things happen, we get tunnel vision, we can lose or sense of self ( And by this I mean the orientation of ones limbs and body in relation to the world around us) not the philosophical self. and literally see our selves floating above our own bodies. If none of this happened to healthy persons exposed to oxygen deprivation then I could lend this some credence, or at least curiosity, but it is in my view pure bunk, designed and encouraged to support the ridiculous claims of life after death, and more specifically the christian view of heaven, nothing more.

  12. NDEs have been a medical and scientific conundrum for years and the debate is ongoing. While some neuroscientists are content with biological/chemical hypotheses, there is school of thought that remains genuinely perplexed and fascinated by the phenomenon. And contrary to the predictably dismissive scorn on this page it is actually taken quite seriously and is the subject of academic research. Also, while it is true a good number NDEs are experienced by ‘believers’ quite a number of atheists and agnostics have experienced NDEs and have been transformed as a result.

  13. In reply to #15 by SaganTheCat:

    I know it’s wrong but I’d be so tempted to make up a NDE and describe my vision of hell. oh and mention i’m a jew
    There are people who’ve experienced Hell and wrote about it. no need to wrack your brain. I’m sure if you tried you couldn’t outdo the horror.

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