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An open letter to Bill Nye, the Science Guy

 

Dear Bill,                                                                           Sunday 2nd Feb 2014

 

We’re sorry. We’re really sorry.

We know how you American rationalists think of us Aussies. You think we’re all so busy clinging on to the bottom of the world with our fingertips that we don’t have time to waste concerning ourselves with silly creationist ideas – that we’re a haven of straightforward logical thinking, secular education, free healthcare and good-looking half-clothed beach bunnies.

 

But we’re really sorry, Bill – Ken Ham is our fault, and it’s time we took responsibility for him. We, the people of Australia, have allowed our zealots to escape to your fair shores. It’s not just Ham, either. Fine specimens like Gary Bates, who left for the forgiving climes of Georgia, still manages to send his tentacled pods back over the Pacific and feed our kids rubbish about how the earth is only 6000 years old – a particular head-scratcher for our Indigenous population, whose families have been here since 50,000 BCE. I mean, talk about breathtakingly rude.

 

We’ve been slack, Bill. Our practically secular society let us get complacent; we didn’t notice years ago, when the scripture classes that had slid in sideways last century were commandeered by proselytising evangelicals who set about “making disciples” of our children. We let slide our government handing over of wads of tax dollars to create a raft of fundamentalist religious schools who teach kids the kind of hogwash that you will have to endure from Ken Ham in your debate.  In fact, Bill, just this week, when Professor Marion Maddox nailed a copy of her exemplary new book Taking God To School to our doors, it was a stark reminder of just how much we’d let our secular-ish, sunburnt paradise go.  And now, any attempt to reverse the process has been met with squealing about “our Christian heritage” from people who often don’t understand either Christianity OR heritage.

To our shame, decades of preoccupation with things like Olympic medal tallies and football players has made Australia into the “Typhoid Mary” of Creationism: we were rubbishing America for its anti-evolutionists and didn’t even notice that we were the ones exporting young-earth evangelism to your great nation, where unfortunately there is no tariff on craziness. We are so, so sorry.
 

So on Tuesday, when you’re roasting the Ham and his patently ridiculous ideas on the rotisserie of logic, tell him you’ve got a message from Australia. Tell him from us that we used his state-issued Akubra hat to cover a hole in the national chookhouse shed, that he is no longer entitled to use his formal Australian name (Kenno) and that he is now forbidden any Tim Tams – ever again. Also, that whenever his name comes up at Christmas, while we sit around drinking white wine in the sun, there will be a formal awkward silence of twenty to forty seconds, until someone brightly offers everyone pudding. And if you could manage to kick him in the shins and tell him and his ilk to leave our kids alone, Bill – we’d owe you one.

Best Regards,

Secular Coalition of Australia (SECOA)
on behalf of the sensible people of Australia.

P.S. We take no responsibility for Ray Comfort. He’s a Kiwi.

Written By: Secular Coalition of Australia (SECOA)
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23 COMMENTS

  1. Actually, I did write a comment in another thread expressing my embarrassment at Ham’s heritage. I suspect they go oversea because of the slim pickings here in Oz for raving religious ratbags.

    Some come here of course, from other parts of the world, apparently to famously accuse the wildlife of eating their children.

  2. On the topic of religious lunacy- after nearly 3 years of wandering Europe and UK (NOT part of Europe!)
    I’m returning to Oz with new-found appreciation; creeping Islamisation has me dumbfounded.
    European leaders have been so enthusiastic to import this evil, all the while being in denial despite
    mountains of evidence, from 911 all the way to Lee Rigby, Abu Qatada via London 7/7, Madrid trains
    and far flung events like Bali, Breslan, Mumbai and Kenya Mall.
    As Cameron says (with support from Obama) “It’s nothing to do with Islam” UNQUOTE.

  3. OK I’m going to weigh in here too as being a New Zealander I have been shamed by our Aussie cousins :[(] Yes, Ray Comfort is one of us, a Kiwi . I was even dragged through his church here in Christchurch by my mother as a youth, the experience left me with an enduring contempt for Christinity especially Comforts brand of it. In my opinion the man ended up in America because we have a half-way decent (before they started cramming charter schools down our throats) eduction system here that includes evolution in the science curriculum i.e. acquiring mindless minions was a bit more of a up hill battle than in America. I am in two mind re: Ham and Nye debating, on the one hand neither side is going to convince the other of anything as their respective means of determining what is and is not true are mutually exclusive. One side employs reason, the other subjective feelings dignified with the term faith, a side willing to pull a miracle out of a hat and “facts” from their posteriors when confronted with anything Nye might have to say. On the other hand, how does the saying go? All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing. If Nye does not refute creationist notions will some not accept them by default? Should Nye not at least lead the horse to water even if it cannot be forced to drink? It is in short not Ham Nye will or should be speaking to but the audience.

  4. Sheepdog:

    Some come here of course, from other parts of the world, apparently to famously accuse the wildlife of eating their children.

    Cardinal Ned Pelly, kindly put your head in this noose !

  5. Its called a debate. Something that presents opposing views for people to consider. To be offended means you are a complete dumbass. Sit back, listen to both sides, and weight them in your head. Its up to you to make your decision. But don’t be a complete dick and put down somebody for presenting their views. At least he is doing it without being a stuck up asshole.

    • In reply to #10 by DickFuckingDawkins:

      Its called a debate. Something that presents opposing views for people to consider. To be offended means you are a complete dumbass. Sit back, listen to both sides, and weight them in your head. Its up to you to make your decision. But don’t be a complete dick and put down somebody for presenti…

      You mad, bro?

    • In reply to #10 by DickFuckingDawkins:

      To be offended….

      Who is offended?

      Given that both have said a huge amount already, why are coherent and reasonable discussions about the debate not possible? They tell me football matches are often discussed beforehand on the same basis.

      Still, I’ll shut up now. I can see you are a little tense about it all.

    • In reply to #10 by DickFuckingDawkins:

      Its called a debate.

      Nope! Its called a presentation of comical but deceptive incompetence.

      Something that presents opposing views for people to consider.

      All views are not equal! Some are just pig-ignorant stupidity, which can be dismissed, because they were refuted before they were presented!

      To be offended means you are a complete dumbass.

      Avatar – mirror – psychological projection?

      Sit back, listen to both sides, and weight them in your head.

      And those who have only studied the ignorance of Ham, will listen to feather-weight nonsense instead of checking evidence.

      Its up to you to make your decision.

      While the utterly clueless and scientifically uneducated will delude themselves that they are capable of making a competent decision by listening to Hammy arguments – without any reference to properly tested science, or from learning anything from the biology text books which have been available for the last hundred years or so.

      It’s a bit like astronauts debating Flat-Earthists!

      All views are not equal! Some are just pig-ignorant stupidity, which can be dismissed, because they were refuted before they were presented!

    • In reply to #10 by DickFuckingDawkins:

      Its called a debate. Something that presents opposing views for people to consider. To be offended means you are a complete dumbass. Sit back, listen to both sides, and weight them in your head. Its up to you to make your decision. But don’t be a complete dick and put down somebody for presenti…

      Gee, a lot of poor choice of words with a crappy attitude. You are a “Christian” aren’t you? I can tell from the language.

    • In reply to #10 by DickFuckingDawkins:

      Its called a debate. Something that presents opposing views for people to consider. To be offended means you are a complete dumbass. Sit back, listen to both sides, and weight them in your head. Its up to you to make your decision. But don’t be a complete dick and put down somebody for presenti…

      Moderator, please remove this “post”.

  6. In reply to #10

    “But don’t be a complete dick and put down somebody for presenting their views. At least he is doing it without being a stuck up asshole”

    This from the individual whose online monicker is “DickFuckingDawkins”.

  7. Great letter…but why did Aussie’s elect that religious Abbot twat of a PM over a brilliant secular female Atheist Prime minister…I just can’t fathom that one….Talk about a lost opportunity….

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