Cosmos Squashes Creationism Under the Weight of Evidence

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Episode two of Cosmos, hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson aired this week and Tyson, towards the end of the program made one of the best statements that one can hope sank into the minds of young and old viewers alike, and most importantly, creationists. Tyson proclaimed there is no shame in admitting you do not know something and that the real shame is pretending to know everything.

Just as we saw Ken Ham do when debating evolution against Bill Nye, Ham was able to claim that he knew everything that Nye honestly claimed he did not know by simply saying "Bill, I do know how X happened, it's all explained in this book," referencing the Bible. Ham is shameful in the fact that he cannot admit what he does not know, he would rather go on pretending to know things he does not know, the definition of faith.

Ham went as far as to claim he believes in his views so strongly, nothing can change his mind. The sure sign of someone who believes to know things they do not know and does not care about finding the truth, only sticking to what they want to believe.

During this week's episode, Tyson discussed the evolution of the eye; something creationists have said for years that evolution cannot explain and attempting to use as evidence that life must be intelligently designed. Tyson eloquently explained how the eye evolved and how well scientists understand this evolution.

Tyson touched on how many species have evolved an eye, but did leave out the fact that there are over 40 known independent eye evolutions, something that very clearly discredits any intelligent design.

Written By: Dan Arel
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39 COMMENTS

  1. Evidence doesn’t make any difference, they still won’t believe it. The ones with the brains are charlatans, who dupe the rest, who wouldn’t be able to understand the science, or the ideas generated by the science. Depressing.

        • In reply to #8 by Nitya:

          haven’t been able to locate this on YouTube

          Can’t find it either, but then, a poster on the other thread did say unsanctioned videos are quickly taken down.

          Try viewing episode two via this link.

          *tv channels outside the u.s. are International Fox Network and Nat Geo International. I’ve no idea if this info is helpful where you live.

          • In reply to #10 by bluebird:

            In reply to #8 by Nitya:

            haven’t been able to locate this on YouTube

            Can’t find it either, but then, a poster on the other thread did say unsanctioned videos are quickly taken down.

            Try viewing episode two via this link.

            *tv channels outside the u.s. are International Fox Network and Nat Geo Int…

            Thank you very much. I’ll give it a go. The program is due to be shown on a science Channel in Australia next Sunday. This wouldn’t benefit me as we don’t subscribe to Pay TV. Our free to air network is very extensive, especially ith the type of shows we enjoy watching. Thanks again Bluebird. I’ll try your link.

          • In reply to #10 by bluebird:

            In reply to #8 by Nitya:

            haven’t been able to locate this on YouTube

            Can’t find it either, but then, a poster on the other thread did say unsanctioned videos are quickly taken down.

            Try viewing episode two via this link.

            *tv channels outside the u.s. are International Fox Network and Nat Geo Int…

            Update: Unfortunately it came with a message that the content is currently unavailable. We’ll probably have to wait till it has been screened here before we are able to gain access.

        • In reply to #8 by Nitya:

          In reply to #4 by Scepticon:

          In reply to #2 by old-toy-boy:

          Where and when will the Brits and the rest of the world be able to see this? …. please ….

          this help?
          http://natgeotv.com/uk/cosmos-a-spacetime-odyssey

          Much of the world has it already

          Would someone ( Bluebird where are you?) be abl…

          Nitya, you can watch all the episode from this site. http://www.primewire.ag/tv-2744966-Cosmos-A-SpaceTime-Odyssey/season-1

      • In reply to #17 by Spiff:

        In reply to #2 by old-toy-boy:

        Where and when will the Brits and the rest of the world be able to see this? …. please ….

        Seriously? Lol

        Alas it’s true.
        I really don’t get the mindset that puts videos on the Internet, but not for foreigners!

        • Just to clarify, Cosmos airs on National Geographic in the UK on Sunday evenings at 7 (first episode last Sunday). So not available if you’re relying on terrestrial or Freeview.

          The first episode was very good, although I did wince when Neil talked about when Moses, Jesus and Mohammed were born in the “year” of elapsed time since the big bang. Ok, it was in the context of them being historical figures (well I believe Mohammed is and the other two might be) but it still felt like an effort to say “Hey guys, come on in, this stuff isn’t really incompatible with your faith if you just relax on the literalism”.

          In reply to #23 by CliveHill:

          In reply to #17 by Spiff:

          In reply to #2 by old-toy-boy:

          Where and when will the Brits and the rest of the world be able to see this? …. please ….

          Seriously? Lol

          Alas it’s true.
          I really don’t get the mindset that puts videos on the Internet, but not for foreigners!

  2. I love Cosmos, it puts science in a way that anyone can understand if they will just listen. I am always intrigued when I discuss topics in science with religious people at how much detail they expect me to give and yet all they give me are religious claims with very little detail. The show is fantastic and I hope they are showing these episodes in science classes in our schools.

  3. Tyson did a great job on the second episode. I was mesmerized by the graphics and how the logic and story flowed. Quite frankly, I don’t give a rat’s furry ass what the impact is on the addled brains of those who don’t or won’t assimilate the obvious truths that lie in front of them.

    i only stress over things I can control. So, here’s the deal. I downloaded the APP. I had all of my students download the APP and we are discussing each episode the Monday after it airs. Students are approaching me in the halls and asking questions. Kids I don’t know are seeking me out (I am the evolution spouter at our high school) and showing me things on their iPads.

    Asking, generating questions…. conversation…. interest …. If the only negative is that blind shit heads are pissed off; where’s the downside?

    This has done what Sagan would have wanted; the only thing better would be him and Feynmann being here to do the remake.

    Bravo Tyson. Bravo MacFarlane, yes, even BRAVO FOX. I’d love to ride the coattails of this success with a follow up with Richard as the hammer. (I’d do it but I am very very busy).

  4. We all know creationists use the la la la ear blocking and not listening style when it comes to debating their so called beliefs. No amount of reasoned debate would ever change a mind as closed as that.

  5. Well people do change their minds in the face of evidence, – otherwise we’d all back back in the days of the Spanish Inquisition.

    Like the Monty Python parrot, creationism is dead, deceased, passed over, laid to rest, pushing up daisies, kicked the bucket, …. or at least well on its way there !

    Bring on Ray Comfort in the yellow corner for the 14th round !

    • Sadly the “fundies” will never change their minds. They think science is an affront to their religion. What they fail to realize is it was their god that created the minds that discover, and explain the wonderful miraculous things found in science
      In reply to #9 by Mr DArcy:

      Well people do change their minds in the face of evidence, – otherwise we’d all back back in the days of the Spanish Inquisition.

      Like the Monty Python parrot, creationism is dead, deceased, passed over, laid to rest, pushing up daisies, kicked the bucket, …. or at least well on its way there !…

  6. People have been asking about how to view this series outside the US. Failing all other options, it’d be very easy to illegally download the episodes, even in HD. That’s not to say it would be right to do so, but it’s definitely feasible within hours of the episode airing in the US.

  7. Considering an Oklahoma TV station “accidentally” cut reference to Evolution during the first episode, I wonder how much squashing is really going on. Personally, I think the series is not “simplified” enough for the average person to understand. I noticed subtle rebuffs to Creationism which is fun because I don’t think most people realize that this is being stated. NDT is perfect – as expected.

  8. As I alluded to earlier, there is an APP for iphone and iPad. I am not sure if it is internationally available. However, upon downloading the App (names exactly as the series), you need to also download and register for the Fox viewing APP (called FOX NOW) and then you can watch the content 24 hours after it’s air date.

    Again, not sure if it is available to all, but my students are eating it up.

    • In reply to #19 by justinesaracen:

      Evolution of the eye. He got that from Dawkins.

      Actually, even Darwin proposed a detailed step-by-step evolution of the eye, in On the Origin of Species. Unfortunately, he began the discussion by saying it “seems absurd” the eye could evolve. This rhetorical device was quote-mined. The subsequent appearance of “yet reason tells me” doesn’t filter through.

  9. Hopefully students will go to their teachers, children to their parents, each other and on line, books will be read, and discussions will break out all over the place.

    To correct the damage a whole new generation needs to be educated in the workings of science; here in the UK, BBC 4 is already doing a great job, and Cosmos is clearly something for us to very much look forward to.

  10. No one will ever convince creationists that they’re wrong, no matter the amount of evidence you can show them, they will stick to their beliefs. Their brains have reached a state of mental indolence that prevents them from having to think and analyse any new findings in science. One of them told me that believing in the Big Bang required far more faith than believing in the Bible and as he was a rationalist, he said, he believed in the Bible because it had been written by God. Science has to follow its own course and ignore those lunatics.

  11. “We all understand the twinge of discomfort at the thought that we share a common ancestor.”
    1 … 2 … 3 …
    I fecking don’t!

    Seriously, this is how he really thinks? Or is simply the level the script had to stoop to before the program would get the green light? Because there is so much juvenile ‘Cooties! Ewwww!’ BS in here, along with plain bad science, that I had to stop after 20 minutes. I also get you want the show to look nice, but do you really need a constant SFX display? Are you worried your audience will change the channel if you don’t put up something bright and colourful every two seconds? Who is this program aimed at?!

  12. It is interesting that an astrophysicist explains biology. He does a good job. I happen to notice that the carton of DNA replication is incorrect. It doesn’t have to be very precise for this type of show.

  13. How are the ratings? I hope Cosmos garners enough viewers to stay on the air. It is the only show I watch on Fox. (Except for sports).
    I suspect that the “regular” Fox viewer’s heads explode every time you appear and hit them between the eyes .with scientific fact.
    It is a shame that they live in such an in un-penetrable “bubble” where facts cannot enter.
    The show is so well written even the dumbest of them should be able to understand, should they desire.

    • In reply to #29 by southsidemike:

      How are the ratings? I hope Cosmos garners enough viewers to stay on the air.

      I have heard a rumor, hoped to be false, that FOX is thinking of cancelling COSMOS. Maybe they got a bunch of complaints after the episode (2) on evolution. It should still be available on the National Geographic channel, thanks be to doG.

      Steve

  14. I’m going to disagree a bit. I think the series of evolutionary steps leading from primitive light receptors to an eye was explained pretty well. What I think was missing was a clear discussion of how we know that those were the steps along the way.

    Science is more than a body of knowledge — it’s a process based upon evidence. I think this segment would have been far more powerful if the basis for how we understand the evolution of the eye had been presented as clearly as the evolutionary stages themselves.

    It’s my great hope for the rest of the series that more time will be spent, not just on what we know, but on how we know it. This is one thing that the original Cosmos did very well in places. Sagan’s explanation of the Eratosthenes experiment to measure the size of the Earth, for example, was brilliant.

  15. Cosmos is an excellent show. It’s a show you’d expect to see on Discovery or the Science Channel and religions teach their followers not to watch those channels because they expose them to the truth, which they see as the enemy. Cosmos being on Fox could bring vital information to a large group of people who it might otherwise not reach. It doesn’t have to turn everyone who watches it away from religion, but if it plants the seeds of doubt and makes people start asking questions then the show will be a success.

  16. I was going to post to this thread last week after watching episode 2 but couldn’t quite get my thoughts in order. What a wonderful series. NdGT is a fantastic communicator and a worthy torch bearer to his mentor Carl Sagan. Watching ep 2 about evolution I was suddenly overcome with a quite profound emotional response. The sheer beauty of nature’s ability to solve problems, evolve beautiful solutions and select for the fittest and best suited to prosper in its environment. And then suddenly it hit me that half of the world’s population will just denounce this wonder as “lies from the pit of hell” and carry on as before in their ignorance and blinkered stupidity. I actually found myself weeping at the stupidity of religion and the harm it has caused over the centuries.

    I was delighted that Giordano Bruno finally got the recognition he deserves in a segment lasting several minutes. Everyone knows about Galileo and how he was subjected to home imprisonment for 10 years for discovering that the moons of Jupiter revolve about their own planet and not Earth but Bruno, who was burned at the stake for being completely correct in his deductions, has to some extent slipped through the net of history.

    I was less delighted that Moses and Jesus were used to illustrate the passage of time.

  17. At long last I’ve been able to view episode 2 of the new Cosmos series via the link below. I’m filled with enthusiasm for this program. The fact the show began with the evolution of our domestic dogs ( a progression that is readily accessible for even the most hardened ID believer IMO), was brilliant.

    Information is artfully presented for every minute’s viewing.Some aspects are shown via animation and a gene’s-eye-view is used to show the process at a cellular level.

    It would be hard to remain ignorant after watching this.

    http://youtu.be/FCwd9UhUu5I

  18. I know this article is kind of dated but it was the most appropriate one I could find and I have to post this somewhere on this site (note: this is why an Open Thread for the day would be nice) I seldom enjoy stuff on Youtube, and the editing here is nothing special, even I could do it, maybe I’m just in the mood but I thought this was pretty clever:

    Cosmos Edited for Fox News Viewers

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