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Monday, May 14, 2007 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Row over Scientology video

by John Sweeney, BBC News

Thanks to Scott McGraw for the link.

Reposted from:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6650545.stm
Footage of John Sweeney has been posted on YouTube
The battleground is YouTube and Scientology's weapon is a clip of me losing it in the "Mind Control" section of a gruesome exhibition. Scientology has fought many battles to keep its secrets off the web, now they are using it to attack my investigation into them.

Scientology has prepared an attack video, and they have shown the Scientology v Sweeney shouting match to anyone who would watch it.

There is talk of 100,000 copies being released.

Family 'disconnects'

Scientology works. That is the message from celebs like John Travolta and Tom Cruise - who is, some say, keen on recruiting new Hollywood arrivals David and Victoria Beckham to what he calls his religion.

Others back the Church in various ways: Chief Superintendent Kevin Hurley of the City of London police helped open a new £20 million Scientology centre in London, and the authorities in the City of London have granted it cut-price rates.
If you are interested in becoming a TV journalist, it is a fine example of how not to do it. I look like an exploding tomato and shout like a jet engine ... it makes me cringe
But start asking questions and you see a different face of Scientology.

While making our BBC Panorama film "Scientology and Me" I have been shouted at, spied on, had my hotel invaded at midnight, denounced as a "bigot" by star Scientologists, brain-washed - that is how it felt to me - in a mock up of a Nazi-style torture chamber and chased round the streets of Los Angeles by sinister strangers.

Back in Britain strangers have called on my neighbours, my mother-in-law's house and someone spied on my wedding and fled the moment he was challenged.

I have met mothers who say they have suffered Scientology "disconnects" - meaning that their children have cut them completely out of their life so that they can spend more time with an organisation which a judge in 1984 characterised as "corrupt, sinister and dangerous".

Psychiatry battle

Scientology has two faces - nice and smiley, and sinister and dark. If you do not believe me, go and see their exhibition in Los Angeles, Psychiatry: Industry of Death. You enter through a door that is a mock-up of a torture chamber.

Scientologists want "the global obliteration" of psychiatrists, who they say were to blame for the rise of Nazi Germany.

To prove their point, they showed me hideous images of people having needles stuffed in their eyeballs, of patients undergoing electric shocks and having their brains operated on.

Sickening, nasty and wholly unconvincing - modern psychiatry, for all its faults, is not Nazi and to press the point in the way that Scientology does devalues the horror of the Holocaust.

I felt as though I was being brain-washed - and that if I did not fight it, they would have taken over my mind.

Ironically or not, it was in the "Mind Control" section of the exhibition that I lost it.

'Exploding tomato'

As often in life, I snapped over something completely different and quite trivial.

Top Scientologist Tommy "Don't mention the word cult" Davis had been goading me all week, and on the seventh day I fell into his elephant trap. He shouted at me and I shouted back, louder.
L Ron Hubbard wrote the founding texts of Scientology
If you are interested in becoming a TV journalist, it is a fine example of how not to do it. I look like an exploding tomato and shout like a jet engine and every time I see it makes me cringe.

I apologised almost immediately, Tommy carried on as if nothing had happened but meanwhile Scientology had rushed off copies of me losing it to my boss, my boss's boss and my boss's boss's boss, the Director-General of the BBC.

I lost my voice, but not my mind.

This is the context Scientology will not tell you about. I have met too many good people who say Scientology was founded by a liar, L Ron Hubbard; that it attacks its critics without mercy; and the celebrities who endorse it have not the foggiest idea what it is really like.

Take "Rosemary", who is an ordinary mum and lives in England. She had two children and one died. Her surviving daughter was also her best friend. Then her daughter joined Scientology and her mother saw less and less of her.

Almost two years ago she received a "disconnect" - a letter cutting her mother out of her life totally.

Rosemary received no Christmas cards, no birthday cards, no Mother's Day cards.

Rosemary said Scientology was a cult. It was one of the most moving and shocking interviews I have ever done.

Out of the blue, three hours after we left, her daughter came round for the first time in almost two years seeking a reconciliation. The next day she begged her mum not to use the interview. So we won't.

Pay as you go

In Florida I met Mike Henderson, who with his wife Donna Shannon, spent $1m over three decades on Scientology's path to superhuman powers. When the couple left, they were disconnected from 20-odd family members left inside Scientology.

Mike's father - also disconnected - is dying, but five out of his six children will not speak to him because they are still inside Scientology.

After a long day with Mike and Donna we went back to our hotel at midnight, only to find Tommy Davis waiting in the lobby with his own black-clad Scientology cameraman.

He harangued me for talking to the heretics. I told him that Scientology had been spying on the BBC and that was creepy.

In LA, the moment our hire car left the airport we realised we were being followed by two cars.
John Sweeney spent many weeks investigating Scientology
In our hotel a weird stranger spent every breakfast listening to us. In all, we count 13 strangers - private investigators? - who were following us. Scientology denied sending PIs after the BBC.

Scientology is a pay-as-you-go religion - which is one of the reasons why the Charity Commission in Britain does not class it as a religion.

When you have paid as much as £100,000, you get to Operating Thetan Level Three and learn about "The Incident".

L Ron wrote that 75 million years ago an intergalactic space alien lord called Xenu kidnapped Thetans to earth, dumped them in volcanoes and blew them up with atomic bombs.

Ex-Scientologists have insisted to me that Xenu is part of Scientology. If so, it is a religion that requires its followers not to tell others about its core belief, which is very odd.

Critics say that if we all knew about Xenu, then Scientology could not charge people as much as £100,000 to find out about him.

Despite all the pressure - the letters from lawyers, the letters from MPs, the strangers knocking up my family and neighbours - if people from "disconnected" families tell me that Scientology is a cult, that will be reported.

Scientology And Me, Panorama, Monday, 8.30pm, BBC1.

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1. Comment #40344 by BaronOchs on May 14, 2007 at 6:39 am

 avatarAlas if he'd just been a little bit stronger and not lost it that one time. But well done to him anyway, the effort to expose movements like scientology must be total and ceaseless. And I think this already gives an idea of how evil it is, to its very core.

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2. Comment #40350 by Lamentz on May 14, 2007 at 6:47 am

 avatarWell this isn't the first time we've seen scientology exposed to the mainstream for the sinister cult that it is, but in all honesty are the beliefs of scientologists any more ridiculous than say that of the Pope, a muslim cleric or any baptist preacher, most people have become pre conditioned to simply accept the teachings of christianity and islam as credible because they have been around for so long and they have made it taboo to question them, the scientologists are simply doing now what the others have done for years in trying to surpress others questioning their silly faith.

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3. Comment #40356 by Logicel on May 14, 2007 at 7:05 am

 avatarMy two great hates: Pope and Scientology.

In investigating alternative religions for an University class project, around 30 years ago, I visited their branch in NYC. Sick, sick, sick people; they make fundamentalists seem tame. In stead of shouting, I would have spat at them.

Cruise is a loser as a human being, not to mention a humdrum actor. I dislike this cult particularly because of the disgustingly clever marketing of religion as 'science'. The b'stards.

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4. Comment #40367 by CJ22 on May 14, 2007 at 7:24 am

 avatarActually, for all it must be painful and embarassing to him, I suspect a lot more people will be watching. His 'losing it' doesn't detract from his case, and it gives him an opportunity to emphasise the intimidation and sinister goings-on that finally pushed him over the edge.

I try hard not to be disrespectful to the religious. After all, whatever they believe, trying to make them feel stupid is not going achieve anything. But when it comes to scientology, I just can't come to any other conclussion that anybody who gives it the slightest credence is a complete moron, a gullible naif, and in some cases criminally fraudulent.

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5. Comment #40394 by anotherclinton on May 14, 2007 at 8:25 am

 avatarThat was awesome. More please.

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6. Comment #40604 by mjwemdee on May 14, 2007 at 3:14 pm

 avatarI applaud him for going after these people, and note his courage (LA is not a safe place for any kind of investigative jounalism) but he really did lose it. My partner and I turned on the TV this evening at the moment they were bawling at each other eyeball-to-eyeball, and it was pretty hard to distinguish who was the good guy and who the bad. Sweeney really did make himself look an idiot. Also....does anyone else find - like I do - his manner of reporting curiously disjointed and hard to follow?

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7. Comment #40659 by Mr. Grape on May 14, 2007 at 4:35 pm

What's really scary is that the things the scientologists do to dissenters is sometimes worse - murder. They are like a brainwashed gang of stalkers.

One of my friends accidentally gave a scientologist "auditor"(recruiter) my address five years ago and they are still sending me creepy personalized handwritten notes. Even scarier is that I live next to their main nest in L.A.

At least with god-believers of abraham you usually only get yelled at...

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8. Comment #40679 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 4:55 pm

The problem with the story was the intimidation was so heavy handed this became the story, and the original point of the story- the exploitation of it's members was lost. But as the program tried to suggest, perhaps this was their (the scientologists) tactic.I must say I liked the way he was prepared to ball back at them. It probablly doesn't happen to the control freak wankers very often.

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9. Comment #40687 by dancingthemantaray on May 14, 2007 at 5:14 pm

Honestly, I don't know how he stopped himself from breaking that wanker's nose, the little creep had the horrible trait of invading peoples personal space, getting in their faces to talk to them, people like that deserve shouting and much more.

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10. Comment #40944 by Lionel A on May 15, 2007 at 8:34 am

 avatarWell, having watched the programme broadcast last night then I am amezed that Sweeney kept his cool for so long.

I have waited until I had seen the whole broadcast before commenting but that Tommy Davis was totally creepy. One cannot debate with a moron who cannot tell the difference between a postulation in which Sweeny used the 'CULT' word and a direct accusation. Davis reminded me of a Dalek when he was talking as if somebody had placed a tape machine in his mouth and pressed play.

I guess these obnoxious people will be after me now. Let 'em come and find out what kind of publicity they raise. I will not be intimidated which is their real forte. I feel sorry for the poor suckers who fell for their claptrap in the first place and now feel too scared to get out. Judging by last evening programme, one methodology of the scientologists is a form of terrorism

Well done John Sweeney, you are a brave man and doubtless your courage will be tested in the days to come. Don't forget to keep us posted.

They should never, ever, be granted charitable status and the presence of that Chief Constable at the opening of their new UK HQ was worrying, that one needs watching.

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