1. Comment #40440 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 9:50 am

No.
Don't anybody say it.

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2. Comment #40444 by polishrequiem on May 14, 2007 at 9:51 am

When it came time to explain evolution Brian started on a good path regarding us all being transitional forms but then he dropped the ball and couldn't get it back again. The explanation of evolution just sort of fell apart here.
Too bad really.
What was best about the whole enterprise though was that Cameron and Comfort TOTALLY failed in every way to do what they set out to do and Kelly nailed them on it at every turn.
Man that dress was distracting.

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3. Comment #40448 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 9:54 am

Great Tea Pot,

I am trying. Oh sweet 8pound 6oz baby jesus, I am trying.....but looking too!

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4. Comment #40450 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 9:57 am

Another thought. How long before we hear that all militant athiest women are suffering from a curse, by our lord and most bennifical benifactor,by being large breasted??

I shall start the search! ;-)

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5. Comment #40452 by plastictowel on May 14, 2007 at 9:58 am

It doesn't play...

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6. Comment #40456 by USA_Limey on May 14, 2007 at 10:07 am

Oh sweet Lord! Oh Jesus!

Lead me not into temptation, give the strength oh Lord to resist sin.

Tempt not me Satan with the sins of the flesh... oh Great God...

oh.. oh....

Oh Shit I'm an athiest. out of excuses then.

WOWZERS!

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7. Comment #40459 by Logicel on May 14, 2007 at 10:09 am

Here in France, most women have a bit of cleavage when hosting shows and doing news. No big thing, though most of the breasts are bit on the subdued size. Men on the shows, even comment about how sexy that a bit of perspiration is beading up in the cleavage. Everybody stays cool and resumes the discussion as nothing happened.

As a woman, I always feel appreciated by the opposite sex without worrying about being degraded, hurt, or frightened. Whatever the French culture has, it should be patented and bottled, and perhaps the assuredly rampant sale of this much needed product could also raise France's flagging GDP.

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8. Comment #40468 by Caveman on May 14, 2007 at 10:17 am

The moderator should have asked those two midgets Kelly smuggled in for their opinion.

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9. Comment #40469 by phasmagigas on May 14, 2007 at 10:18 am

OK, ive not even seen the video but one look at that still at the top of this article had me understanding some comments i'd heard about it, and the comments here do prove that atheist or not all men are a product of natural selection and are rather easily distracted from the topic at hand. I'm suprised that kirk and co. didnt drop the banana and start talking about other things that were intelligently designed!

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10. Comment #40472 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 10:24 am

Logicel, I think i'll have to come over and watch some French TV if you dont mind. We're sooooo televisonally repressed here in the states.

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11. Comment #40475 by Lagomort on May 14, 2007 at 10:28 am

Well, I do not know why we have these people defending evolution for us as many do not know the fine details of the science. No one discusses Mueller's ratchet, or Punk Eek with any authority, and their knowledge of therapsid osteology is totally lacking...Lack.. Laa

Boobs!!! I see boobs!!! Nice Boobs too!! Boobs!!! Hey buddy, did you see the melons on her huh??? Boobs!!

What were we discussing again?

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12. Comment #40478 by Logicel on May 14, 2007 at 10:36 am

firemancarl, I am sure you would also enjoy shopping at the huge Carrefour (either the biggest or the next biggest box store in the world). I remember the first time I went shopping here, about a decade ago, I heard squeals and thumping of soft objects landing on the floor behind me. Being a native New Yorker, I figured it was some kind of riot. But alas, it turned out to be a sexy, food fight between the male and female tenders of the fresh fish stall! Ice cubes sliding about the floor, limp shrimp being lobbed about, etc. Great fun.

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13. Comment #40481 by Logicel on May 14, 2007 at 10:38 am

Lagomort, nice, snarky comment.

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14. Comment #40483 by Logicel on May 14, 2007 at 10:43 am

Anyway, as I have said in other threads regarding this debate, our side did OK. And if you have any constructive feedback, visit the RRS website and present it there.

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15. Comment #40485 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 10:44 am

See,who says we athiests are militant? Would uptight xtians be able to take a serious subject such as boob...er...evolution and turn it into an equal opportunity boobfest?

Logicel,
I dunno how a food fight at a fish stall can be considered sexy, but if you'd like to show me (us) how..then please post grainy black and white video and fuzzy 8X10 pics. please.

Besides, if you're hearing "thumping of soft objects landing on the floor".......

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16. Comment #40487 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 10:46 am

The RRS did a good job, but I agree with thier after action review. They missed some really good chances to fracking destroy Cameron and Comfort. Oh well, it was a learning experience. I like the older woman who took Comfort to task for avoiding her question about cancer.

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17. Comment #40488 by Logicel on May 14, 2007 at 10:47 am

firemancarl, of course, Je comprends bien. You are an atheist and demand proof. But I already sold the photos on Ebay. Sorry, maybe next time.

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18. Comment #40493 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 11:04 am

Logicel,

I was hoping for "je me souviens" Fooey!

Ok, I admit I got that from a Quebec license plate

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19. Comment #40505 by Lagomort on May 14, 2007 at 11:26 am

I just hate the fact that we have some smart people that believe, just because they are clever, that they do not need to do the leg work on evolutionary biology. If someone says there are no transitionals, and holds up a silly picture of a bird-crocodile to attempt to belittle you, then you should be able to discuss the fossil record with command, and destroy them...

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20. Comment #40510 by CruciFiction on May 14, 2007 at 11:34 am

Best part is when Brian says about Kirk: "Oh, god, what a numbnut." ROFL

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21. Comment #40516 by USA_Limey on May 14, 2007 at 11:49 am

Come on people lets stay on topic here... the last few comments have actually been about the debate.

:-)


Forgive me father!

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22. Comment #40521 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 11:57 am

quite right limey

If you want to talk evolution go somewhere else.
We have a cracking example of the beautifull female form to discuss here.

And by the way,Lagomort, atheism is a lot older than Darwin and christianity. A knowledge of evolution is no more a prerequisite of the debate than a knowledge of the bible.

Vive la difference!

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23. Comment #40537 by Lagomort on May 14, 2007 at 12:34 pm

Yo, Teapot, the name of the thread is "Facing Off on Evolution". What part of that did you not grasp?

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24. Comment #40539 by USA_Limey on May 14, 2007 at 12:40 pm

"Yo, Teapot, the name of the thread is "Facing Off on Evolution".

...It is? Why yes so it is! Wow isn't the brain amazing: I just looked at the still shot and thought it said, "Fronting off for evolution" all this time!

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25. Comment #40564 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 1:36 pm

you're asbsolutely right Lagomort.
I will go to the back of the class and watch the brainiacs slug it out.
Yo dude.
(When I said the debate, I meant their debate- does god exist, not this one)

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26. Comment #40568 by hasty toweling on May 14, 2007 at 1:46 pm

I had an idea that was inspired by Kirk, Ray and similarly-minded individuals. I think the best way to get a computer to pass the Turing test would be to program the software have an evangelical Christian personality. They're empty-headed responses have a sort of automatic, mindless quality reminiscent of a poorly programmed computer that just "doesn't get" a simple request.

If there are any programmers out here who want to make the attempt, here's a piece of psuedo-code to get you started:

Print "Bannana.";

Input response;

While(response != "praise Jesus!")

Print "Hitler was bad.";

Input response;

If response=="Hitler was a Catholic."
Print "Stalin was bad.";
Else
Print "Sun goes up, Sun goes down...";

Input response;

End While



Heck, that might be enough!

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27. Comment #40575 by CaptainShiny on May 14, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Crocoduck... I think I just shat myself.

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28. Comment #40577 by Lagomort on May 14, 2007 at 2:19 pm

""you're asbsolutely right Lagomort.
I will go to the back of the class and watch the brainiacs slug it out.
Yo dude.
(When I said the debate, I meant their debate- does god exist, not this one)""

Um, I know, but your comments to me had nothing to do with what I said. I was making comments on the topic of the thread, while your comments to me had nothing to do with anything I had said, hence my response...

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29. Comment #40598 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 2:59 pm

The point I was making on your comment was we do not need evolution to deny evidence of God.You suggested that we needed to do the leg work on the subject.I suggest all the onus of proof is on them.
Re thread - They could have just said what is evolution? ,never heard of it. Where is your evidence of god.
It was your comment was it not that said we need to do the leg work.
The weakness of religion is not the sophistication of the opponents arguments, but the complete stupidity of it's own arguments.
The debate is childs play. The only difficulty is the ability of the religous to live in a fantasy world free from any form of logical debate. Logic can never win them over.

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30. Comment #40601 by Aaron SF on May 14, 2007 at 3:06 pm

"Oh sweet Lord! Oh Jesus!

Lead me not into temptation, give the strength oh Lord to resist sin.

Tempt not me Satan with the sins of the flesh... oh Great God...

oh.. oh....

Oh Shit I'm an athiest. out of excuses then.

WOWZERS!"

satire:

Hey... stop parading your heterosexuality around in front of me. God I'm not judging you know. I mean live and let live, but could you just keep that sort of thing in the bedroom instead of shoving it in my face. :P

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31. Comment #40607 by D'Arcy on May 14, 2007 at 3:20 pm

The video has really converted me! I feel the calling to become a born again Crocaduck! Teeth for tearing into atheists and an anus so tight I might die of constipation!

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32. Comment #40612 by BaronOchs on May 14, 2007 at 3:28 pm

But Aaron SF he didn't specify who precisely was causing him the temptation:-)

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33. Comment #40616 by USA_Limey on May 14, 2007 at 3:33 pm

Comment #40601 by Aaron SF on May 14, 2007 at 3:06 pm

"Hey... stop parading your heterosexuality around in front of me. God I'm not judging you know. I mean live and let live, but could you just keep that sort of thing in the bedroom instead of shoving it in my face. :P"

LOL, nice one Aaron. No need for the spoiler though I'm English my satire detector is fully functional.

Anyway who says I was talking about the red head with that dark smoldering hunk sat next to her?
Oh ok... I was talking about the red head. As for shoving it in your face; hey I didn't start it! If that dress isn't shoving things in your face what is? :P

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34. Comment #40618 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 3:35 pm

AaronSF
Thanks for the avtar (or whatever the pic in the corner Is) it is about time us fellas were catered for. All the mass media wants to do is cater for the average lesbian, all those pics of semi clad ladies.
Lets here it for the boys.

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35. Comment #40640 by Jolly Wally on May 14, 2007 at 3:58 pm

Well at least our side was better-looking...

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36. Comment #40641 by Jolly Wally on May 14, 2007 at 4:01 pm

Kirk Cameron is a fucking idiot.

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37. Comment #40647 by Aaron SF on May 14, 2007 at 4:11 pm

Well at least the network knows that a thoughtfull debate just won't go anywhere without a large breasted woman.

Does it add credibility to either side?

Yes. Yes it does.

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38. Comment #40658 by the great teapot on May 14, 2007 at 4:32 pm

To be fair to both kelly and the network-
Kelly is on the program because of her outspoken atheism. She is standing up for the American atheist minority and as such should not be criticised just because she neither sounds like frazier nor looks like Einstein.
Good Luck and well done Kelly and Brian

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39. Comment #40661 by pewkatchoo on May 14, 2007 at 4:36 pm

She is certainly a pleasantly breasted lady.

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40. Comment #40664 by BaronOchs on May 14, 2007 at 4:39 pm

Wello I guess some things in life are just more interesting than the supposed existence of a supreme being:-)

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41. Comment #40671 by firemancarl on May 14, 2007 at 4:47 pm

The Great Teapot said"nor looks like Einstein"

Uh, she has a face??? I'll have to look again!

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42. Comment #40674 by TheHardProblem on May 14, 2007 at 4:50 pm

I guess Ray and Kirk didn't need to look far that night for proof of god.

Kelly's response? "It's evolution baby! 100% natural selection."

i'm bad >:D

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43. Comment #40717 by k1mgy on May 14, 2007 at 7:12 pm

Unfortunately neither side was adequately prepared for the question. Disappointing, but I would still give a point for the Atheists side simply because they did not resort to silly analogs.

Now, as to the topics in hands, "May I share your notes?"

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44. Comment #40747 by reason-first on May 14, 2007 at 10:10 pm

In the conclusions Cameron alleged to be quoting RD from TGD to the effect of RD saying he would still believe in evolution if there wasn't the slightest bit of evidence for it.

Can anyone give us a hint as to the page in the book where this quote is to be found or did Cameron just make it up?

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45. Comment #40779 by gcooke on May 15, 2007 at 12:47 am

Bullfrog?
Sheepdog?

these
people
are
morons.

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46. Comment #40812 by stephenray on May 15, 2007 at 3:13 am

"Comment #40444 by polishrequiem on May 14, 2007 at 9:51 am

When it came time to explain evolution Brian started on a good path regarding us all being transitional forms but then he dropped the ball and couldn't get it back again. The explanation of evolution just sort of fell apart here.
Too bad really"

If you look at the vidcap at the head of this thread, you can see precisely what the explanation is for Brian's verbal fumbling. His attention, as a non-puritan male, was clearly elsewhere!!!

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47. Comment #40917 by justme on May 15, 2007 at 7:46 am

the great teapot: "To be fair to both kelly and the network- Kelly is on the program because of her outspoken atheism. She is standing up for the American atheist minority and as such should not be criticised just because she neither sounds like frazier nor looks like Einstein.
Good Luck and well done Kelly and Brian"

Agreed. Sure, Kelly is good looking from head to toe ... that's both a bonus and obvious.

I think you will agree that looks aren't a reason for either Brian or Kelly being there -- Kelly knows her stuff and kicked some ass.

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48. Comment #41199 by tomjlawson on May 15, 2007 at 3:57 pm

I would have loved to have seen Brian reach behind his chair and grab a Tiktaalik roseae fossil. What would they have to say about an animal that resembles a crocodile but has scales and fins? I think Kirk might have called it a Crocashit, no?

I like Kirk's defense..."As I understand it..." as if it's okay for him to do all of his research on evolution at the Discovery Institute and never set foot in a real museum. Maybe he thinks that he'll burst into flame if he goes in, like we non-believers joke when we enter churches. (My skin doesn't burn, but it definitely crawls...)

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