A meeting of unlike minds
2. Comment #43262 by agki on May 21, 2007 at 3:06 am
I was at that "debate." It was a debacle for Dr. English. Here's an English comment:3. Comment #43279 by the great teapot on May 21, 2007 at 3:47 am
How did he reply?4. Comment #43282 by pewkatchoo on May 21, 2007 at 3:59 am
How did he reply?
5. Comment #43290 by Russell Blackford on May 21, 2007 at 4:18 am
I assume that was supposed to be "sacred texts", but I do quite lke the description of the Bible and the Koran as "scared texts".6. Comment #43301 by MiloC on May 21, 2007 at 4:46 am
It never ceases to amaze me how Christians can redefine God as the need arises, yet trying to convince themselves they are talking about the same God all along. This kind of equivocating allows them to have a moving target and is their modus operandi when it comes to the defense of their faith. But it is always good to ask them when did God go from being Moses' thunder god of the mountain to being Mr Rodgers?7. Comment #43328 by iluvsam on May 21, 2007 at 6:03 am
"But it is always good to ask them when did God go from being Moses' thunder god of the mountain to being Mr Rodgers?"8. Comment #43347 by eggplantbren on May 21, 2007 at 6:40 am
9. Comment #43353 by ArtR on May 21, 2007 at 6:56 am
"English's God allows people to chart their own destinies. This freedom makes faith flexible, allows it to evolve with human knowledge and experience -- to accept Darwinism, the Big Bang and the changing role of women."10. Comment #43357 by lostpoet on May 21, 2007 at 7:04 am
11. Comment #43370 by poppythinks on May 21, 2007 at 7:35 am
12. Comment #43416 by Snotty Scotty on May 21, 2007 at 10:27 am
"...English added that Hitchens might just as easily have titled his book "Law and Order Is Not Great: How Governments Poison Everything" because he could have found innumerable examples of atrocities perpetrated by them. "Does that mean we should do away with all governments?" he asks rhetorically.13. Comment #43417 by savroD on May 21, 2007 at 10:36 am
14. Comment #43418 by PaulDoherty_US on May 21, 2007 at 10:36 am
I was also at the debate and the question AGKI refers to was one of those painful, rambling questions that had to be shut down by the moderator - it might have been nice to get an answer to the gist of the question, but even I could let English off the hook when he was finally asked "why don't you give it up." His answer as I recall was something like "out of commitment to my faith."15. Comment #43421 by savroD on May 21, 2007 at 10:48 am
16. Comment #43429 by FoundLink on May 21, 2007 at 11:28 am
Don't you wish one of these fundies like Pat Robertson would debate Hitchens? I wish all fundamentalists agreed with English's statement about christians hearing the other side. Would have really liked to have seen Falwell debate Hitchens or better yet Dawkins. Not badly enough to bring the fat bigot back, however.17. Comment #43478 by TheHardProblem on May 21, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Has a recording or transcript been made of this debate?18. Comment #43487 by MelM on May 21, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I think this is part of Hitchens' "march through the South." On the Charlie Rose show recently, he mentioned that his book tour was going into the South and that he had challenged any and all holy men to debate. He said that he had plenty of takers.19. Comment #43491 by MelM on May 21, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Missing page.20. Comment #43501 by BT Murtagh on May 21, 2007 at 7:53 pm
[DEBATE_OPPONENT] added that Hitchens might just as easily have titled his book "[NOT_GOD] Is Not Great: How [NOT_RELIGION] Poisons Everything" because he could have found innumerable examples of atrocities perpetrated by them. "Does that mean we should do away with all [NOT_RELIGION]s?" he asks rhetorically.
21. Comment #43520 by Turiel on May 21, 2007 at 10:07 pm
I wish someone would open up a youtube account with the video's of all these debates. I think as far as promotion for the book goes that would help us alot. And lets face it, sometimes its just fun to watch him intellectually brutalize these characters.22. Comment #43521 by Veronique on May 21, 2007 at 10:18 pm
23. Comment #43665 by kkant on May 22, 2007 at 8:37 am
I would love to hear a recording of this debate, if anyone has it. If you attended this debate, did you notice any cameras or sound techs there?24. Comment #43724 by oxytocin on May 22, 2007 at 11:08 am
25. Comment #43847 by Faith Collapsing on May 23, 2007 at 12:47 am
26. Comment #44032 by kkant on May 23, 2007 at 7:47 am
Thanks for the info, Faith Collapsing. I'll check out that website, see what they got.27. Comment #44037 by pewkatchoo on May 23, 2007 at 8:02 am
28. Comment #44198 by Roknrol on May 23, 2007 at 3:31 pm
The problem with Phelps and his ilk is that they are incapable of debate or even discussion. They are much like the rabid atheists that are absolutely certain that there's no such thing as God. A debate with those idiots would prove nothing - the Atheists would see it as a definative win because the Phelps crowd *can't* hold their own, the zealots will think they won because Hitchens "can't understand their belief". They are not people that "think", by and large...they are like trained rats who are only capable of regurgitating the same tired crap that they've been spoon-fed...29. Comment #44200 by BaronOchs on May 23, 2007 at 3:37 pm
1. Comment #43242 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:22 am
On another recent thread, a poster at this site quoted something in the regard that it is not that humanity is not good enough for Christianity but that the Christian god is not good enough for humanity.
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