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Saturday, June 2, 2007 | Reason : Interviews | print version Print | Comments

Document The Atheism FAQ with Richard Dawkins

by Diganta, Richard Dawkins

Thanks to ranjani for the link.

Reposted from:
http://desicritics.org/2007/05/26/003610.php

Richard Dawkins, the author of the NY Times bestseller - The God Delusion - has been interviewed many a time recently. The questions asked were mainly related to his book, the views on atheism, morality and present world.

He answered all questions in a flawless and confident way. Each and every answer speaks about his passion and eagerness to explain his stance on every point. It's an amazing experience to watch him speak. I have tried to pick up a few commonly asked questions and his answers on different topics.

Why are you against faith?

Because, I am a kind of person who cares about the Truth. The religion and any sort of dogma are the biggest obstacle against the Truth. Not only that, I am worried about the position religion enjoys in our society. You can attack other's political view, criticize a football coach but cannot attack one's religious faith. It's a kind of immunity from criticism that religion enjoys, despite being proven to be mostly illogical.

There are billions of people across the world following their faiths and living their life. How do you describe them?

Of course, there are billions of people living their religious life and most of them are harmless people. But, they are carrying a virus of faith with them, that they transmit from generations to another, and could create a 'epidemic' of faith any time. As I said, I am a kind of person who cares about the truth and also want to see people following the truth. The truth is not a revelation, but truth that has been established though evidences and repeated experiments.

There are scientists who are religious. How do you feel about them?

Yeah, unfortunately there are many good scientists who do this. Although, I do not clearly understand their position in life, it seems to me, either they act like religious people consciously for some other purpose or compartmentalize their views based on the context.

Religious people claim they derive their morality from religion. Where from an atheist derive his morality?

Religious people do not derive their morality from religion. I disagree (with the interviewer) on this point. Almost all of us do agree on moral grounds where religion had no effect. For example we all hate slavery, we want emancipation of women - they are all our moral grounds. These moral grounds started building only a few centuries ago and long after all major religions were established. We derive our morality from the environment we live in, Talk shows, Novels, Newspaper editorials and of course by the guidance of parents. Religion might only have a minor role to play in it. An atheist derives his morality from the same source as a religious people do.

But all the religious books have given moral guidance to the people, like not killing the neighbors. Why do you think they are still bad?

The religious books do talk about not killing your neighbors, at the same time they talk about not showing skin of women or killing the infidels. The God of the Old Testament, as I described, is not at all a good 'person'. The God is certainly a lot better in New Testament. However, when you pick and choose the good verses out of a religious book, the parameters, those you use, does not certainly come from the religion itself. For example, when you say New Testament is better, you are certainly not using Christianity as a judge. The parameters you use, are the effect of the morality that is already with you, assimilated from different sources in your life time.

In your book, you've said that God 'almost certainly' does not exist. Why are you leaving open the possibility?

Any scientific people will leave open that possibility, that they cannot disprove whatever unlikely the event might be. I would be the first person to accept God once evidence comes in favour of it.

So you accept Science cannot disprove God. What is the problem if people follow religions till God is disproved?

Science cannot disprove God as well as they cannot disprove Apollo or Juju or Thor with his hammer or even a Flying Spaghetti Monster creating the universe. However, we do not believe them as they are unlikely to exist. We do neither believe in fairies of Hans Andersen although we cannot disprove them. To believe in an unlikely event or a deity only because we cannot disprove it, sounds foolish to me.

Why don't you think that the Universe, huge, complex and mysterious, is not a creation of a Supreme Being, where we see all complex things are in fact created?

First of all if you assume that all complex things are created, then a God, capable of creating such a complex Universe, should also be a complex being and should also have a creator. On the other hand, if you follow the Darwinian Evolution path, you'd see how a complex organism can be built upon relatively simpler beings by the process of Natural Selection. And it is far more logical to believe that we and the Universe in general, started from a simpler start that a complex creator starting it up.

When you stand on the top of a mountain doesn't the vastness of the world strike you? Don't you feel charmed by the beauty of the nature, and the mysterious laws of the vast Universe?

Of course I do. And I have mentioned about it in the first chapter of my book as the spirituality followed by Einstein. He was so charmed about the mysteries of the world and it was such an exciting experience to explore it. It's a kind of spirituality that does not require God, a personal deity to explain the mysteries of Nature. It is quite different from a religion centered around a God who can read mind, keeps track of sins, judges people after death punishes the disbelievers and rules the Universe.

What is your opinion about Stalin and Hitler as Atheists?

I have said in my book that Hitler is not at all atheist, as he was religiously biased against Jewish people. Stalin was following communism dogmatically. I have already said that none of us, in effect derive our morality from religion. Stalin, in fact, used the dogmatic communism as his source of morality - if we call it morality at all. Being atheist does not ask you to become dogmatic or communist, but only ask you not to believe in God. A person working in a Mafia group can also be an atheist although it will be illogical to say that atheism pushed him to the Mafia group. There are other colleagues working with him who are religious.

Why do you link religion with 'Child-abuse'?

I link the marking of children as 'Jewish boy' or 'Muslim child' as a child abuse, since, in childhood they are yet to choose their religious views. Not only that, they are brought up in a way that he gets separated from other religious groups and views so that he follows the religious faith of his parents. Obstructing the view of children clearly comes under child abuse.

Your ambition is that people reading this book should abandon their faith. Isn't it?

There is no harm in aiming high and you can say that is my ambition. But, in practice, we want the people who follow the middle ground, who never have thought deeply on this topic, to think twice and consciously reject God. Also, I can see that in United States 10-15% people are Atheists, larger than any minority religious groups. However, they don't have any political power or a lobby compared to strong Jewish lobby. I want Atheists to come together and establish a God-neutral political view, a view of their own, for a better balanced world.

References

1) Interview with Jeremy Paxman on BBC.
2) Interview on CNN on Darwin Day.
3) TV Ontario interview (part 1, part 2 and part 3).
3) The Hour interview, (part 2).
4) The debate - part 1, part 2 and part 3.
4) RichardDawkins.net for more video/interview resources.

Diganta Sarkar is a Software Professional. He is curious about the world of science and culture. His aim of writing is to present his logical view to the world. He presents his views in his own blog (horizonspeaks) as well as in desicritics.

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1. Comment #46993 by TeapotTheist on June 2, 2007 at 3:29 pm

 avatarThose "replies" don't appear to have been transcribed very well.

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2. Comment #46997 by qsuc on June 2, 2007 at 3:48 pm

Stunningly concise and respectful answers from Dawkins. It's not a wonder he is so demonized by religious authority as though all he 'spews' is 'hatred'. As the interviewer hit on every misconception of atheism and science available, this interview is a great starting ground when having discussions with religious individuals.

Second part is how does he manage the self-restraint? The repeated practice in answering the same questions again and again? I'd be mentally and physically fatigued to the point of taking a year long sabbatical from society at large.

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3. Comment #46998 by AdrianB on June 2, 2007 at 4:01 pm

 avatarI wish they wouldn't put Truth instead of truth in the answer to the first question.

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4. Comment #46999 by eirik on June 2, 2007 at 4:09 pm

I agree with both TeapotTheist and AdrianB. These "replies" are not at all put in the elegant form that Dawkins himself would have (and so many times already have) pronounced them. Why doesn't just Dawkins himself post a sort of concentrated FAQ himself as opposed to others posting semi-quotes like these?

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5. Comment #47000 by steve99 on June 2, 2007 at 4:11 pm

 avatarIs there a way we could collate and publish a more substantial FAQ on this site?

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6. Comment #47001 by Karl Christensen on June 2, 2007 at 4:38 pm

The best form of FAQ would have to be in an audio or video format. It is important to hear Dawkins' control and confidence.

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7. Comment #47010 by reggiedixon on June 2, 2007 at 5:14 pm

I'm sure this has been said lots of times before but why do I have to be labelled or label myself as an "Atheist" when actually my position is that I don't believe in the superset of things that don't exist of which deities are one member.
Excepting of course the Flying Spaghetti Monster which is above all this kind of stuff [edit](this is a joke by the way - suddenly remembering that we have some very literal-minded people here).
Any chance of a potential FAQ dealing with this - and yes I know about "brights" etc but I think that's missing the point.

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8. Comment #47011 by BicycleRepairMan on June 2, 2007 at 5:21 pm

 avatarMostly good, but I do object to the "T" in Truth, truth is important alright, but its still written truth, if its written with a capital t, it implies some sort of scriptural truth, which has got to be the opposite of Dawkins views.

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9. Comment #47018 by BAEOZ on June 2, 2007 at 6:59 pm

 avatarreggiedixon, as a founding father of the tortellini sect (and only member, all other tortellini sects are heretical!) I feel it is my sacred duty to uphold the dignity and sanctity of our noodly creator. He is not to be taken in vain. A durum wheat curse shall be placed upon you! Ramen.

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10. Comment #47019 by Russell Blackford on June 2, 2007 at 7:08 pm

reggiedixon : I agree, which is why I actually call myself a metaphysical naturalist. There are lots of things apart from deities whose existence I don't believe in. Still, it's important at the moment to challenge the moral authority of religion in particular.

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11. Comment #47022 by quill on June 2, 2007 at 7:47 pm

 avatarWhy is he talking like Borat?

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12. Comment #47049 by epeeist on June 2, 2007 at 11:45 pm

 avatarComment #47000 by steve99

Is there a way we could collate and publish a more substantial FAQ on this site?

Excellent idea. However, it shouldn't simply stop at exposing some of the canards leveled at atheists.

In another thread some of us are attempting to get devolved to answer various questions on Noah's flood (e.g. where did all the water come from, if rainbows only appeared after the flood then what did the laws of optics look like before) and gene modification. Needless to say he just points us at the "Answers in Genesis" and "Creation on the Web" websites. Now I am sure that all the questions have been put before but a set of questions to the bible literalists would be useful.

Similarly, something exposing the aims of the Dominionists and their ilk would also add value.

Needless to say, extending it to cover other religions besides Christianity would also be necessary.

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13. Comment #47086 by jaf on June 3, 2007 at 1:54 am

You should see this -

'The God FAQ'
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/

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14. Comment #47093 by Mat on June 3, 2007 at 2:15 am

@JAF: LOL! Just love that God FAQ. Short, sharp, to the point.

On the other aspects of this thread, I think that an amalgamation of various answers to religious-ites "questions" - or rather, dogmatic statements - about atheists generally and the validity of their own beliefs would be great. Sam Harris summarises some of his views on his webpage (can't find exact link at the moment, but it's www.samharris.org). I also enjoyed "http://www.godisimaginary.com/" although think that it's somewhat repetitive and maybe not entirely well-thought-out all the time. Made me laugh though. And "http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm" is just fantastic for people, like me, who haven't read the actual bible since they were kids.

And, when it comes to it, I reckon this entire site, with all its forum posts, is probably one of the best places around to gather answers to FAQs. The standard of knowledge and piercing logic is exceptionally high.

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15. Comment #47096 by Ole on June 3, 2007 at 2:32 am

 avatarA FAQ is perhaps a modern type of scripture?

What if we used the FAQ idea and "reversed engineered", say the Koran? ;-)

Q: Did you mean "virgin" or "white raisins"?

A: It was about food. Chilled raisins (or drinks) that the just will have the pleasure of tasting in contrast to the boiling drinks promised the unfaithful and damned.

Ole

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16. Comment #47108 by reggiedixon on June 3, 2007 at 3:15 am

I'm glad I'm not on my own here - a question that I hadn't considered before has just struck me - are there people who reject all deities and "spirituality" cobblers who believe in nonsense like Homeopathy, Astrology, Dowsing, Panorama programmes on the dangers of WiFi or even more ridiculously "Postmodernism"?

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17. Comment #47113 by DNAtheist on June 3, 2007 at 3:26 am

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Richard Dawkins said:
"The God of the Old Testament, as I described, is not at all a good 'person'. The God is certainly a lot better in New Testament."

I have to strongly disagree with this statement. Mark Twain eloquently addressed this misconception in Letters from the Earth.

In time, the Deity perceived that death was a mistake; a mistake, in that it was insufficient; insufficient, for the reason that while it was an admirable agent for the inflicting of misery upon the survivor, it allowed the dead person himself to escape from all further persecution in the blessed refuge of the grave. This was not satisfactory. A way must be conceived to pursue the dead beyond the tomb.

The Deity pondered this matter during four thousand years unsuccessfully, but as soon as he came down to earth and became a Christian his mind cleared and he knew what to do. He invented hell, and proclaimed it.

Now here is a curious thing. It is believed by everybody that while he was in heaven he was stern, hard, resentful, jealous, and cruel; but that when he came down to earth and assumed the name Jesus Christ, he became the opposite of what he was before: that is to say, he became sweet, and gentle, merciful, forgiving, and all harshness disappeared from his nature and a deep and yearning love for his poor human children took its place. Whereas it was as Jesus Christ that he devised hell and proclaimed it!

Which is to say, that as the meek and gentle Savior he was a thousand billion times crueler than ever he was in the Old Testament -- oh, incomparably more atrocious than ever he was when he was at the very worst in those old days!

Meek and gentle? By and by we will examine this popular sarcasm by the light of the hell which he invented.

The horror of such an inescapable torture for the crime of being human has certainly caused more psychological damag than any other religious concept. It also provides the theological justification for hideous acts like torturing jews into conversion for their own good, slaughtering newly baptized infants so they will die without sin, and killing heretics before their ideas spread and condemn others to everlasting fire. This is the God of the New Testament.

Don't forget that Jesus reaffirmed all of the laws set down by his Old Testament personality, thus enabling Christians to justify slavery, the criminalizing of homosexuality, and the execution of women accused of witchcraft. He even expanded many of the old laws into the realm of thought crimes. The act of adultery was condemned in the Old Testament, but in the New Testament we are told that simply being attracted to a woman was morally equivalent. Where the Old Testament God is primarily concerned with foreskins and animal sacrifices, the God of the New Testament makes mere lack of faith an eternally punishable crime.

And as for epic acts of divine violence, the actions of the deity in the book of Revelations surely match or exceed the gore factor of any story from the Old Testament. I really can't imagine how anyone who has read the entire Bible could possibly think that the New Testament deity is better than the Old Testament one.

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18. Comment #47184 by John Phillips on June 3, 2007 at 11:10 am

reggiedixon: Unfortunately yes, the problem is that few people are taught critical thinking skills or what the scientific method actually is or what is meant by true scepticism, often confusing it with cynicism. This can be seen in the number of people who believe in all the various conspiracy theories, such as the 9/11 one, often refusing to accept the real evidence because it conflicts with either what they want to believe or because of cynicism about government or authority in general.

A similar attitude can be seen with those who believe in quackery such as homoeopathy or the so called dangers of Wifi. Here however the authority figure they are cynical about is science/technology. Of course, it isn't helped by those who exploit them and become that particular quackery's 'priest class', usually for financial gain or power of some kind. What all these exploiters do have in common, whether religious or other forms of quackery, is that they all exploit the need many people have for certainty in a seemingly increasingly uncertain world by offering a fake certainty. Such as the charlatan with the meter in the Panorama wifi program, who actually has a vested financial interest in claiming wifi dangerous as he is selling 'anti radiation' products.


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19. Comment #47748 by NoLongerHaveBelief on June 5, 2007 at 12:19 pm

Yeah. Dead right John. The 9/11 'conspiracy' is a complete load of hogwash. Same with the Moon Landings 'not' happening, UFO's, Tea-leaf reading, 'Medium's', Ghosts, Poltergeists, Loch-ness Monsters, Afterlife, Re-incarnation and Religion. ALL rubbish. Total trash. I believed in all that hype at one time. No longer. I'm delighted to have found the works of Professor Dawkins - just short of my 40's by a couple of years.

I used to be dragged to church every Sunday. What a load of rubbish. A complete waste of the only life I'll ever have. Reciting B-O-R-I-N-G, U-S-E-L-E-S-S, ancient texts that made no sense in the 20th century and even less today.

What really annoys me, is not belief in God. I actually DO respect those that believe in a higher power. What bugs me, is the parsamonious types: Have you seen that McGrath character on the above video? - Professor Dawkins caught him a treat with a contradiction! His holier-than-thou attitude was busted! He was stalling for time! I found it rather exhilirating!

Make no mistake here. A CONTRADICTION, means faulty, logical reasoning. Not all theories can be true. Only one theory can be true i.e. There is a God or there isn't a God. Life, planets, solar systems et cetera are NOT proof of the existence of a deity or a higher power.

Good on ya' Professor! That McGrath is a smug git. I can say that, because I'm working class trash. And WHAT is all that head-tilting about?!

McGrath WAS BUSTED! I loved it! You believers REALLY think you're superior to the rest of us. you're not. I despise your holier-than-thou-Atheists attitude. Do homosexual surgeons REALLY go to the abyss, when their mortal time arrives?

I think not. And neither will those nutters on board those 4 planes on 9/11.

I'm already onto my 4th Professor Dawkins book. I'm now reading The Devil's Chaplain. I've learnt more during the previous 3 books than a lifetime of religious dogma.

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