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The view of distinguished sociologists such as David Martin is that in the modern world wars are usually caused by factors other than religion, but that because religion is such a crucial marker of identity, it can be used by unscrupulous people to exacerbate conflict.
And religion has always been more than willing to be used in this way. I often wonder why the atheist writers do not point out more often than they do that while many wars were not fought over religious issues, organized religion, being in the pocket of the powerful, did little to stop them.
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3. Comment #51443 by kizumoto on June 23, 2007 at 1:21 am
Sorry, in my previous message, I tried to use blockguote for the first time, and forgot the / mark in the second one, so the quote and my comment are reversed.4. Comment #51447 by arildno on June 23, 2007 at 1:35 am
" In a thousand years' time, if we humans are still around, no doubt our cosmology will be regarded as childish fumbling."5. Comment #51449 by arildno on June 23, 2007 at 1:39 am
The author totally fails to address the major problem:6. Comment #51455 by PaulJ on June 23, 2007 at 2:03 am
But how is it that the majority of the world's great philosophers, composers, scholars, artists and poets have been believers, often of a very devout kind?I would guess that the answer is a simple statistical one: atheists were a minority, so the majority of the world's great anything would have been believers.
7. Comment #51456 by PaulJ on June 23, 2007 at 2:06 am
Comment #51443 by kizumoto:You can go back and edit, you know...;-)
Sorry, in my previous message, I tried to use blockguote for the first time, and forgot the / mark in the second one, so the quote and my comment are reversed.
8. Comment #51458 by beeline on June 23, 2007 at 2:15 am
9. Comment #51459 by Shuggy on June 23, 2007 at 2:17 am
He seems to think that religion is the root of all evil. It isn't.Does he anywhere say "all" evil? I'd say of all people, CH is aware of other sources of evil.
The problem lies with us, especially when we are organised in groups with a dominant ideology, whether secular or religious.So what's his solution? That we re-organise into groups without a dominant ideology, or not into groups, or abolish ourselves?
10. Comment #51461 by BicycleRepairMan on June 23, 2007 at 2:22 am
"The evils perpetrated in the name of religion are real enough [...] But...
11. Comment #51464 by alovrin on June 23, 2007 at 2:30 am
But how is it that the majority of the world's great philosophers, composers, scholars, artists and poets have been believers, often of a very devout kind
Religion is rooted in our capacity to recognise and appreciate value; in our search for truth;
12. Comment #51465 by pewkatchoo on June 23, 2007 at 2:31 am
13. Comment #51468 by Logicel on June 23, 2007 at 2:52 am
14. Comment #51469 by BMMcArdle on June 23, 2007 at 2:55 am
"I respect your right to think of your people as a unique community, separate from the rest of us who don't share your beliefs." What could be more socially divisive?15. Comment #51471 by Blue Lithium on June 23, 2007 at 2:59 am
First Dennett, then Dawkins and now Hitchens: and of these three recent diatribes against religion16. Comment #51477 by beeline on June 23, 2007 at 3:55 am
17. Comment #51478 by the great teapot on June 23, 2007 at 4:49 am
"But it is in this capacity to recognise, appreciate and respond to what is of worth that religion has its origin."18. Comment #51482 by leodavinci on June 23, 2007 at 5:17 am
19. Comment #51489 by L.Minnik on June 23, 2007 at 5:35 am
"Please, anyone, someone, please! Find us a theist who will directly address the problem." - GodlessHeathen20. Comment #51503 by robert s on June 23, 2007 at 7:00 am
But how is it that the majority of the world's great philosophers, composers, scholars, artists and poets have been believers, often of a very devout kind?21. Comment #51509 by GBile on June 23, 2007 at 7:16 am
Again 'the man is a sinner' myth:But even if religion did disappear, which of course it won't, we human beings would still be here, organised in groups of various kinds, still beset by the same lack of self-knowledge, viciousness and moral weakness.
22. Comment #51692 by Pieter on June 24, 2007 at 5:48 am
What the hell is this guy doing mentioning Plato. My history may be a bit fuzzy, and i'm not a professional logician or anything, but i don't think that anyone who lived in the 4th century before christ worshipped christ. and to my knowledge ecumenicism amongst believers has not yet extended back towards the dead religions we know as mythology.23. Comment #51765 by hightrekker on June 24, 2007 at 7:31 pm
OT: To our UK friends----24. Comment #51766 by phasmagigas on June 24, 2007 at 7:51 pm
25. Comment #51773 by troyreynolds86 on June 24, 2007 at 8:38 pm
"The problem lies with us, especially when we are organised in groups with a dominant ideology, whether secular or religious."
1. Comment #51440 by GodlessHeathen on June 23, 2007 at 1:15 am
Please, anyone, someone, please! Find us a theist who will directly address the problem. Which is not humans, per se, but the dogma and absolute certainty that is the heart of religion's poison.
How can he call the work "seriously harmful"? It casts doubt where there it needs to be.
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