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3. Comment #53248 by BillySands on June 30, 2007 at 10:23 am
4. Comment #53249 by Dr Benway on June 30, 2007 at 10:26 am
5. Comment #53250 by maton100 on June 30, 2007 at 10:31 am
6. Comment #53251 by maton100 on June 30, 2007 at 10:41 am
7. Comment #53254 by D'Arcy on June 30, 2007 at 11:42 am
8. Comment #53257 by Donald on June 30, 2007 at 12:06 pm
Great article. RD is indefatigable in putting the message out.9. Comment #53258 by PaulEmecz on June 30, 2007 at 12:09 pm
10. Comment #53259 by kurzweilfreak on June 30, 2007 at 12:16 pm
The blatently obvious anti-evolution Discovery Institute blog Evolution News and Views (http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/06/sean_carroll_fails_to_scale_th_2.html) (which ironically includes a disclaimer at the bottom about existing only because of the biased reporting on evolution in the media) is quite a read, and you almost have to feel sorry for the ignorance displayed. Almost, because you shouldn't feel sorry for willful ignorance, which is what is displayed in each article on there.One of the most telling aspects - to me - is the fact that unlike this messageboard and most blogs out there, there is no mechanism allowed for commenting on each article. This I suspect is deliberate, for if commenting were allowed, the flaws in each article would be readily pointed out, and they just can't allow that now could they? There isn't even so much as an email address on there to send comments directly to the author. Even if there were, would you expect them to be forthcoming and display corrections to their flaws in logic? What a crock. Overtly biased? Hypocritical aren't we? In any case, what's so biased about going with the facts?
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11. Comment #53260 by kaiserkriss on June 30, 2007 at 12:20 pm
12. Comment #53264 by Dr Benway on June 30, 2007 at 12:31 pm
"If morality means 'You should do one thing and you should not do another' then there is no such thing as morality".Until God appears before us to speak for Himself, the theist has no advantage over the atheist with respect to "absolute morality."
13. Comment #53265 by the great teapot on June 30, 2007 at 12:43 pm
PaulEmmecz14. Comment #53266 by charlieallery on June 30, 2007 at 12:51 pm
16. Comment #53269 by Enlightenme.. on June 30, 2007 at 1:04 pm
17. Comment #53271 by seals on June 30, 2007 at 1:20 pm
18. Comment #53273 by Patrick McArdle on June 30, 2007 at 1:33 pm
"He constantly criticises religious believers, but doesn't include Deists for some inexplicable reason."19. Comment #53274 by kurzweilfreak on June 30, 2007 at 1:48 pm
As a Deist, how could you expect an answer on your question of morality if all your god did was start the universe? Me turning on a lightbulb would say just about as much on morality as would a god who only turned on the universe and then disappeared. To demand some morality of us, your god would have to stick around quite a bit longer.20. Comment #53275 by D'Arcy on June 30, 2007 at 1:48 pm
D'Arcy: I find your comment rather broad brush and disingenuous, as well as insulting to the many good scientists working in the oil industry, and pharmaceutical industry who DO NOT prostitute their views to a particular cause. That some do not happen to agree with your views in an ongoing debate is not a good enough reason to insult the integrity of the majority of Scientists who are true to science for the sake of science and not to the almighty $. jcw
21. Comment #53276 by Sancus on June 30, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Interesting statement about the public in the final sentence.22. Comment #53278 by Logicel on June 30, 2007 at 1:57 pm
23. Comment #53279 by Gordon Brown on June 30, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Wow! What a lacerating, devastating criticism of "Behe 2." Yet upon reading it I don't see how people come up with the canard that Dawkins' rhetoric is shrill and angry. It's just pointful and dead-on, that's all.I would still like to hear [Dawkins] say, honestly and openly, "If morality means 'You should do one thing and you should not do another' then there is no such thing as morality".
[Dawkins] says things like the existence of God is very, very unlikely, but then has no other explanation for the existence of this universe where intelligent life exists.
24. Comment #53283 by RickM on June 30, 2007 at 2:38 pm
25. Comment #53285 by Mark Till on June 30, 2007 at 2:49 pm
26. Comment #53286 by D'Arcy on June 30, 2007 at 2:52 pm
27. Comment #53290 by ergaster on June 30, 2007 at 3:09 pm
28. Comment #53291 by Canuck#1 on June 30, 2007 at 3:16 pm
29. Comment #53292 by k1mgy on June 30, 2007 at 3:19 pm
30. Comment #53293 by Wrought on June 30, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Truly at his best when it comes to evolution and dispelling myths for the benefit of public understanding. My hat is off to him.31. Comment #53294 by Nails on June 30, 2007 at 3:30 pm
32. Comment #53299 by Jolly Wally on June 30, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Quite a thrashing. Good article!33. Comment #53302 by Helios G2V on June 30, 2007 at 4:31 pm
34. Comment #53303 by Donald on June 30, 2007 at 4:49 pm
PaulEmecz: I wish he [RD] could write so clearly about some of the other areas that he seems to tackle so frequently. I would still like to hear him say, honestly and openly, "If morality means 'You should do one thing and you should not do another' then there is no such thing as morality". [...]35. Comment #53304 by Martha on June 30, 2007 at 4:54 pm
36. Comment #53305 by Shuggy on June 30, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Single-handedly, Behe is taking on Ronald Fisher, Sewall Wright, J. B. S. Haldane, Theodosius Dobzhansky, Richard Lewontin, John Maynard Smith and hundreds of their talented co-workers and intellectual descendants. Notwithstanding the inconvenient existence of dogs, cabbages and pouter pigeons, the entire corpus of mathematical genetics, from 1930 to today, is flat wrong. Michael Behe, the disowned biochemist of Lehigh University, is the only one who has done his sums right.This, taken by itself, is just an appeal to authority. Everyone could be out of step except our Michael, the next Galileo. (Coupled with his publishing outside the peer-review framework, and his other egregious errors, though...) but
You think?does cap it off nicely, and deserves to enter the memosphere (another great neologism) as an alternative to "Yeah, right." and "Not."
pwn3dI (amazingly) understand and heartily agree, but don't see how that's an improvement on "pwned", since in predictive mode, you'd just hit "3[def]" twice for e, and - on a Nokia - have to hit it 4 times or hold it down for 3. (Or is "pwnd" - since the 3 is silent - constantly running away from comprehensibility?)
37. Comment #53327 by Arcados on June 30, 2007 at 8:32 pm
"...as I incredulously close this book I seem to hear mocking barks and deep, baying howls of derision from 500 breeds of dogs..."38. Comment #53328 by marcdesm on June 30, 2007 at 8:35 pm
39. Comment #53332 by Stephen on June 30, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Teehee! He mentioned my dog, Max, a Jack Russell!40. Comment #53335 by bouwe on June 30, 2007 at 9:16 pm
One thing I learned from this article is that the Discovery Institute has TAX-FREE STATUS!!! I must be so naive, but this is making me feel SICK. Does Scientology also have tax-free status in the USA? You guys are SCREWED.41. Comment #53342 by Dr Benway on June 30, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Does Scientology also have tax-free status in the USA? You guys are SCREWED.Yes. Yes.
42. Comment #53343 by Zaphod on June 30, 2007 at 9:49 pm
43. Comment #53346 by bouwe on June 30, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Tax-free status for helping people to refuse to grow up in the universe. That's just great.44. Comment #53349 by The_Stone on June 30, 2007 at 11:00 pm
45. Comment #53359 by Corylus on July 1, 2007 at 2:48 am
46. Comment #53376 by phasmagigas on July 1, 2007 at 5:37 am
47. Comment #53378 by phasmagigas on July 1, 2007 at 5:45 am
48. Comment #53382 by errm... on July 1, 2007 at 6:38 am
A lovely article! Stephen (comment#53332) Is that "TeeHee" as in "TeeHee & Dumbski"?49. Comment #53416 by the great teapot on July 1, 2007 at 11:04 am
PaulEmecz50. Comment #53426 by fungaljungle on July 1, 2007 at 12:14 pm
They get charity status for trying to retard science. How that is legal I will never understand.
...damn right!
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