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Sadly, we can not expect this to be the last of its kind.3. Comment #53372 by _J_ on July 1, 2007 at 4:59 am
4. Comment #53379 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 1, 2007 at 6:01 am
This is news? This is surprising? Well, I suppose it is surprising that the Guardian noticed it for once.5. Comment #53383 by alfonso on July 1, 2007 at 6:44 am
Oh, xians do it too:6. Comment #53418 by Vinelectric on July 1, 2007 at 11:26 am
anyone who thinks the Palestinians are murderous scum just because of Israel
should find out what they did to the Maronite Christians in the Lebanese civil war - the same Maronite Christians that gave them refuge
7. Comment #53421 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 1, 2007 at 11:52 am
In the first case, Sabra and Chatilla were knee deep in Islamic terrorists who used women and children as shields. The moral responsibility for that therefore lies at the door of those who hid behind the civilians and started the war - the Palestinians, in the same way that the ultimate moral responsibility for the firebombing of Dresden lay at the foot of the Nazis and those who put them in power.8. Comment #53423 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 1, 2007 at 11:57 am
And as far as Zionism goes, I will only quote the words of Martin Luther King:9. Comment #53424 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 1, 2007 at 12:00 pm
And one final point:10. Comment #53440 by Vinelectric on July 1, 2007 at 1:29 pm
11. Comment #53448 by LeeLeeOne on July 1, 2007 at 1:48 pm
12. Comment #53464 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 1, 2007 at 2:48 pm
>> if your family is butchered and your possessions removed for the pleasure of some lunatic zionist settler<<13. Comment #53465 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 1, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Speaking of George Orwell, here is a quotation you might read profitably:14. Comment #53466 by Dr Benway on July 1, 2007 at 3:00 pm
15. Comment #53470 by roach on July 1, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Disgusting. I wonder if we'll see a multiculturalist defense of this.16. Comment #53513 by BT Murtagh on July 1, 2007 at 8:44 pm
17. Comment #53517 by robotaholic on July 1, 2007 at 9:28 pm
18. Comment #53541 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 2, 2007 at 1:35 am
>>Assuming this is true, and unfortunately I see no reason to assume it isn't, one can only hope that there will be a blowback* against the perpetrators, depriving them of support from their own communities<<19. Comment #53562 by bamboospitfire on July 2, 2007 at 4:22 am
20. Comment #53713 by JoseGarcia on July 2, 2007 at 7:34 pm
I have accidentally discovered this forum, and cannot walk away without adding my two cents. I am a Mexican American living in the States, since I was thirteen I realized all religions were basically arguing over who had the best imaginary friend. If you believed in god, why not superman? Anyway, on the subject at hand... While Muslim extremism is, in my mind, some of the most cruel in the world today, I am very aware that these forms of ignorant violence and stupidity have been here far longer than any of the big three religions (Christianity, Judaism, or Islam). What can be done? I ask you. You cannot change minds that have been washed clean of reason and replaced by blind "faith". I ask this knowing there is no real answer. Maybe nothing. I have no hope that things will change soon. I know that I will not make any friends saying this, but I can only think of one thing that could "clear the slate". Complete erasure of that which is held as "sacred" by the blind faithful. No more "holy sites". No more "sacred ground". No more completely antiquated and ridicules properties which demand blood be spilled to hold on to, land which holds no value other than ancient memories which are best left to the sand to decay away. Religion is fallacy. Why does no one have faith in man, and in what we can achieve. If we could only abandon the spiritual crutch which the old believe they must force upon the young, then could there be room for reason. If there were no Jerusalem, would there still be war over the crater that once held it? Maybe my thoughts could be called "evil", but I have no doubt that if you remove the "holy" from the earth, then all you would have is a blank slate. From that slate, maybe we could reach a consensus. That all life is worth saving. That no one deserves the right to claim who lives or dies. Muslim fanatics, Christian extremists, radical cultists. All claim that there views are the only ones with merit, and therefore have veto rights over all our lives. To all of them I say: "you have no right. You have no honor. You have no soul. You are the evil which your hart has condemned, and therefore become. Go die alone, if you believe in your god so much." -Jose21. Comment #53738 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 3, 2007 at 1:50 am
With respect, this defeatist attitude that we cannot do anything even about the most vile and fanatical has. got. to. go.22. Comment #53782 by Vinelectric on July 3, 2007 at 5:54 am
And what, prey, have the Palestinian Moslems been doing to every poor sod who wasn't Moslem they could get their hands on for the last few centuries?
The alternative to controlled ruthlessness is not no ruthlessness, but _uncontrolled_ ruthlessness.The idea that 'violence just begets violence' is unmitigated bullshit
If I am an 'angry crackhead' then so are Sun Tzu, Niccolo Macchiavelli, Thucydides, Pericles, George Orwell and Lee Harris I am proud to stand among such men.
You have not answered a single point, merely smeared away.
23. Comment #53809 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 3, 2007 at 10:17 am
>>24. Comment #53876 by BT Murtagh on July 3, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Then this:
With respect, that would be a first in decades, given that has been the standard modus operandi with jihadists throughout the world. There won't be a blowback because the communities identify themselves too much with Islam.
With respect, this defeatist attitude that we cannot do anything even about the most vile and fanatical has. got. to. go.
Even the most fanatical and violent can be turned away from evil.
25. Comment #53880 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 3, 2007 at 11:37 pm
*nods* It's a fair point. Of course, the more fanatical, the more difficult it is to convince them otherwise. However, it is possible.26. Comment #54130 by Benjamin Michael on July 5, 2007 at 1:53 pm
27. Comment #54350 by Fanusi Khiyal on July 6, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Benjamin Michael, I thank you and I do so sincerely. We can diverge on things, and I am sure that you are right that I would make a poor diplomat.
1. Comment #53334 by Pieter on June 30, 2007 at 9:13 pm
This is disgusting.Other Comments by Pieter