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Sunday, July 8, 2007 | Reason : Political | print version Print | Comments

Document Evangelicals See Dilemmas in G.O.P. Field

by Michael Luo

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/us/politics/08conservatives.html?th&emc=th

COUNCIL BLUFFS, Iowa, July 3 — Dell Collins teaches an adult Sunday school class at his evangelical church in central Iowa, and he recently took his students through a series of lessons on the Book of James and its repeated exhortations to put faith into action.

But Mr. Collins is grappling with just how to apply his beliefs when it comes to picking a favorite from a Republican field in which the leading contenders each face serious obstacles to winning over Christian conservatives.

"Do you go with your heart or with your head?" he said. "My first choice is with my heart, but you also have to be realistic."

Unlike in the 2000 presidential campaign, when George W. Bush was able to overcome early doubts among religious conservatives by speaking the language of personal faith, the three most prominent Republican candidates, Rudolph W. Giuliani, Senator John McCain and Mitt Romney, are continuing to have difficulty winning over this crucial constituency in the Republican base.

The calculus at this point for social conservative voters, who represent more than 60 percent of Republican caucus goers here in Iowa, is replete with tradeoffs over who best adheres to their values and who is ultimately electable next year. Interviews with more than 40 evangelicals recently across Iowa at campaign events, churches and over the telephone found that many feared Mr. Giuliani might win the nomination even though he supported abortion rights. But they are wrestling with whether Mr. Romney's recent conversion to opposing abortion is genuine, and they wonder how much to trust Mr. McCain, who has harshly criticized the religious right in the past.

"You want to support a candidate that has your values, but you also need to support somebody who has the ability to win," said Nancy Hedegaard, who volunteers as a bookkeeper at her Lutheran church and attended a house party here for Mr. Romney on Monday. "The question is, 'Are they going to be the same person?' "

Partly because of their qualms about the candidates already in the race, some evangelicals are hoping that they might find a better match in a Republican who has yet to formally announce his candidacy, former Senator Fred D. Thompson of Tennessee. But for now many Christian conservatives interviewed, at least here in Iowa, appear to have settled tentatively on Mr. Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, who has been advertising and campaigning aggressively in the state and has been leading in recent polls.

Robin Nichols, 49, a mother of two who attends a Baptist church in Ames, disagrees theologically with Mr. Romney's Mormon faith but she said it would not stop her from voting for him because she believed he was the most conservative of the top three candidates.

His religion actually bolsters his credibility in her mind, Ms. Nichols said, as someone with strong family values. His wholesome family image — he and his wife are high school sweethearts, with 5 children and 10 grandchildren — also helps reinforce that impression.

"I felt like morally and ethically, because of his Mormon values, that he would be trustworthy," she said.

But she began to question her allegiance Saturday, after listening to Mr. Romney speak at a Republican candidate forum in Des Moines sponsored by the Iowa Christian Alliance and Iowans for Tax Relief. There, Mr. Romney said he opposed federal financing for embryonic stem cell research but would not outlaw it. The response confused Mrs. Nichols.

"That really bothered me," she said. "At that point, I questioned, had he really changed his viewpoint, or was he just trying to appeal to the conservative vote?"

Mr. Romney's Mormonism clearly continues to trouble some evangelicals. "I like his stand on families, I really do," said Mary Van Steenis, a teacher at a Christian school from Pella, Iowa. "But if he's going to put the leader of the Mormons before his God there's a problem."

Norm Pawlewski, 73, a retired Iowa state official and part-time Christian lobbyist, said he quickly crossed Mr. Romney off his list: "Too many flip-flops."

Mr. Giuliani's candidacy was similarly a nonstarter with him, he said, because of the former New York City mayor's support for abortion rights.

"Abortion is still number one with me and every social conservative I know," Mr. Pawlewski said.

But Michael Canady, a board member for the Iowa Christian Alliance, said he was at least open to voting for Mr. Giuliani, arguing his strong stance on terrorism could trump other concerns.

"He's definitely more liberal on the social issues than most evangelicals like," he said, but he added that he considered Mr. Giuliani "a leader and somebody who could be strong on defense."

With many Christian conservatives intent on preventing a Democrat from being elected, perhaps the biggest quandary for many is whether electability should be paramount, or whether to stick to a candidate who most shares their faith and worldview.

In an informal survey taken by this reporter at an adult Sunday school class of about 30 students at First Assembly of God in Des Moines, former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, a former Baptist minister, finished ahead of Mr. Romney, eight to five, with none of the other candidates getting more than one or two votes. But the largest segment of the class, nine students in all, said they remained undecided.

"The Bible says to be as innocent as doves and as sly as serpents," said John Phillips, 48, a member of the class. "You have to weigh things with your intellect but put it through the filter of your faith. That's what I'm trying to do right now."

Most of the 40 evangelicals interviewed for this article, however, said they were not interested in throwing away their vote, saying Mr. Giuliani would be preferable to any Democrat.

Mr. Pawlewski professed to being tempted to back one of the second-tier candidates, but, in 2000, he supported Alan Keyes, a firebrand from the right who secured a surprising 14 percent of the vote in the Iowa caucus, only to see his campaign sputter afterward. Mr. Pawlewski said he vowed to never again pour himself into a long-shot campaign, and is now volunteering for Mr. McCain.

"If you look at his record as a senator, he's pretty conservative," he said. "He's always been on the conservative side fiscally and on a number of issues he's been conservative socially."

But many remain deeply skeptical of Mr. McCain because they view him as too much of a maverick. His support of the recent immigration bill is also unpopular among Republicans here, who saw the legislation as amnesty for illegal immigrants.

The search for that elusive combination of conservative bona fides and electability has fueled a yearning among some for Mr. Thompson to enter the race.

"Fred Thompson has a 100 percent voting record with the National Right to Life Committee" said Tim Morgan, 51, a jewelry store owner who is active in his Methodist church in Newton, Iowa, and ran unsuccessfully for State Senate last year. "For me, that's a badge of honor."

Mr. Morgan said he also liked Mr. Thompson's consistency in voting in favor of traditional marriage and that he "appears to be a candidate that can raise the money, get the votes and win the nomination."

Most interviewed here in Iowa, however, said they knew little about Mr. Thompson, aside from his acting in "Law and Order." Others predicted his record, including his role in the passage of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill, which he has since disavowed, would pose its own dilemmas for conservatives.

"I think there may be a certain fascination with him simply because of his name recognition," said Tamara Scott, Iowa state director of Concerned Women for America, a conservative Christian group. "But it seems to fade quickly when people begin to analyze his political viewpoint and find it's not so enchanting after all."

For many Christian conservatives, following their true convictions means bucking the conventional wisdom and turning to one of the lesser-knowns in the field, such as Mr. Huckabee or Senator Sam Brownback, a leading social conservative from Kansas, or even Representative Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who has made illegal immigration his signature issue. Many of those interviewed said Mr. Huckabee's past life in Christian ministry lent him immediate credibility.

Recent polls have shown Mr. Huckabee running fourth in Iowa. He drew an enthusiastic ovation at the recent candidate forum in Des Moines, attended by nearly a thousand conservatives, which Mr. Giuliani and Mr. McCain did not attend.

Ms. Nichols, who had been leaning toward Mr. Romney, came away from the forum impressed by Mr. Huckabee but remained unsure of his chances. The Iowa straw poll, an early test for the Republican field, is fast approaching in August. "I'm sitting on the fence," she said. "I have to make a decision."

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1. Comment #54618 by fonex_86 on July 8, 2007 at 7:16 am


Many of those interviewed said Mr. Huckabee's past life in Christian ministry lent him immediate credibility.


How the heck can a person whose past profession entails weekly mugging, spouting nonsense, inciting hatred, sowing mistrust, and being a complete arsehole when it comes to logic and science be deemed "credible" ?!? (Not to mention his current profession >_<)

All those xian wackos deserve a good smacking.

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2. Comment #54627 by tieInterceptor on July 8, 2007 at 8:14 am

 avatarmaybe universal suffrage needs to be reconsidered.

It's hard to accept that this people can vote and count as much as someone with an education...

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3. Comment #54633 by Mango on July 8, 2007 at 8:43 am

 avatarI picked out two main points in this article: First, Americans will only vote for someone who has a good chance of winning, not someone who is the best candidate, which means we end up with incompetent elected officials in a two-party system. Second, religious conservatives want to place a right-wing candidate on the ballot but know he will not be electable in the general election. So what's an evangelical Christian to do except smear humble pie on his Bible and vote for a Mormon or a cross-dressing ex-Mayor of NYC? Poor Christians, such a spot they're in!

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4. Comment #54635 by Dr Benway on July 8, 2007 at 9:05 am

 avatarNo mention of Ron Paul. I saw him on YouTube for a few minutes and thought he was interesting. He's probably toast.

I could almost be a libertarian. But the notion of getting rid of the income tax seems nuts. We have to pay for our infrastructure one way or another, either via taxes or user fees. Sure, we can contract the work to private corporations. But corporations can be just as bureaucratic, uncaring, lazy, and corrupt as governmental agencies.

The issue isn't "government bad"; it's accountability. How do we hold those entrusted to do something accountable? How do we build in natural checks and balances, to prevent abuse and corruption of power?

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5. Comment #54638 by Titus on July 8, 2007 at 9:56 am

I'm glad I don't live in the US. Theocracy, it seems, is only a ballot away.
Heinlein wrote about an american theocracy in 'If this goes on' back in the forties: perhaps the scientologists pick the wrong SF author as their prophet. :-p

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6. Comment #54658 by EEguy on July 8, 2007 at 11:31 am

 avatarMany of those people don't seem to realize that the election is for a person to run the Executive Branch, a large bureaucracy, and not for a Sunday school teacher. Any intelligent voter should weigh many qualifications and not just the candidate's religion. That attitude in the last two elections is how we ended up with "the worst president ever". This is just another small example of how religion poisons things.

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7. Comment #54672 by Johnny O on July 8, 2007 at 12:31 pm

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"You have to weigh things with your intellect but put it through the filter of your faith."


...and then ignore the intellect part.

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8. Comment #54687 by konquererz on July 8, 2007 at 1:20 pm

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"You have to weigh things with your intellect but put it through the filter of your faith. That's what I'm trying to do right now."


What an absolutely horrid idea! Weigh things with your mind, then run them through what you believe despite the evidence. What an absolute moron!

Dr. Benway Said:
But the notion of getting rid of the income tax seems nuts.


http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_main

You need to check out this site. The idea of getting rid of income tax is only spoken in line with the "Fair Tax" program that is already in a bill in the congress. It bring in more money, reduces paper work and accounting work for the government and companies, and allows the tax to naturally fall where it should. Read through it, its actually a great idea.

As for candidates, this is fabulous. I have been steering my christian parents and friends towards John Cox, a true born-again christian who doesn't stand a chance. I think that in fighting above the faithful makes for good television!

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9. Comment #54747 by troyreynolds86 on July 8, 2007 at 8:30 pm

"But if he's going to put the leader of the Mormons before his God there's a problem."

Really? I would think the bigger problem would be putting his god before the American people, and the nation as a whole, and upholding the Constitution. These should be the questions that plague us as we look around the sea of candidates that we have to choose from. If this is the strongest driving force behind our votes then we are a screwed nation.

A few decades along, when China, India and Europe are so far ahead of these United States both economically and socially (at least in Europe) that all that remains for us it to thrash within the turbulence of the wake, our position of diminished obscurity will have amongst its many culprits the view that many of us gaze upon in the mirror for not recognizing that a nation has greater problems within this world than the fate of embryos or whether two grown people want legal protections of inheritance rights and joint healthcare. Even then, when all that remains of the once impressive quality of this nation is a fading memory and nostalgic rhetoric, we will overlook our many faults, continuing the failure that we engage in today. We will have no one to blame but ourselves and our greatest failure will be that we will still lack the insight to see where we were wrong. Good luck world. My hopes will be with you.

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10. Comment #54751 by BT Murtagh on July 8, 2007 at 8:45 pm

 avatarI've examined the so-called "Fair Tax" proposal in some detail. Semantically, it has a lot in common with the "Clear Skies", "Healthy Forests" and "No Child Left Behind" bills. There's certainly a lot of room for improvement in the tax collection system, but that's an extremely regressive proposal, contrived examples to the contrary.

More on topic, I do wonder how these people pick and choose how to apply the "filter of faith" to their thinking. It's overwhelmingly important to keep the blastulae heading into the incinerators so they can't be used in potentially life-saving research, but government aid to help the poor is unimportant and a pro-war stance is perfectly okay?

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11. Comment #54888 by Phaeonix on July 9, 2007 at 8:33 am

 avatar"The Bible says to be as innocent as doves and as sly as serpents," said John Phillips, 48, a member of the class. "You have to weigh things with your intellect but put it through the filter of your faith. That's what I'm trying to do right now."

What egregious manure. I can side with some conservative fiscal policies, I love social liberalism, I can understand most liberal fiscal policies, ultimately, it is the social conservatives who really piss me off... they alone, in their infinite biblical wisdom, seem to possess the ability to deform all that is good with the world. Is there room in England for a young professional?

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12. Comment #55385 by hightrekker on July 11, 2007 at 12:01 am

Someone this Christopathically detached from reality needs help--
These Cabbages for Christ need mental health care, not media attention.

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