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3. Comment #56593 by Quetzalcoatl on July 16, 2007 at 1:41 pm
4. Comment #56624 by Happy Hominid on July 16, 2007 at 3:43 pm
5. Comment #56628 by roach on July 16, 2007 at 4:08 pm
I always thought that Sam Harris (and the rest of the "new atheists") argued that education was AN answer just not THE answer. Harris said in the debate with Hedges that Christianity and Judiasm have "suffered a harrowing collision with modernity. They have been mastered by science, secular politics, and common sense to a degree that has not happened in the Muslim world" Why? Because the Muslim world is surprisingly isolated and the Muslim world did not experience the Enlightenment. So I think the thesis does take into account the cummulative education of which you speak. The problem is that the human mind is very gifted at compartmentalization. Smart, educated people believe all types of nonsense. Omega Point anyone? One example from my own life would be the people I met in college who appear to actually give astrology some credence (mainly for relationship compatibility). Of course they laugh it off when questioned and say I'm being too serious and it's all in good fun.6. Comment #56635 by Happy Hominid on July 16, 2007 at 4:52 pm
7. Comment #56641 by wendelin on July 16, 2007 at 5:49 pm
I think this is an extremely insightful article, even if it may well have been written by 'one of us' under an assumed name ;D8. Comment #56653 by roach on July 16, 2007 at 6:53 pm
I'm no Sam Harris expert either but I have read his books and listened to him speak. Never have I read or heard him argue that religion is THE single source of human conflict. I have heard him argue that it is A potent source of human conflict and that we shouldn't shrink from criticizing it or that we should make excuses for people who tell us they are motiviated to violence because of their religion.9. Comment #56753 by BicycleRepairMan on July 17, 2007 at 5:50 am
My mother (and most people) seriously thought *capitalists* were all atheists.
10. Comment #56756 by nancy2001 on July 17, 2007 at 5:55 am
Hassan Butt isn't Christopher Hitchens, and he isn't even Sacha Baron Cohen. He's a real live former Muslim extremist who appeared on CBS News this past March.11. Comment #56761 by dmshinty on July 17, 2007 at 6:18 am
"What we Muslims need to do is go back to our books: we need to debate the teachings that are used to radicalise young men and legitimise the killing of innocent people. We need to discuss and refashion the set of rules that govern how Muslims — whose homes and souls are firmly planted in the West — live alongside non-Muslims. Only when we do this can we successfully dissect the radicals' interpretation of Islam and fight back against terrorism."12. Comment #56857 by jonjermey on July 17, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Yes, dmshinty, this is an interesting exercise in doublethink: 'We believe our religion tells us to do this, but we know doing this is wrong, so we must be misunderstanding our religion'. When the problem is perhaps that they are understanding their religion all too well.13. Comment #56868 by phil rimmer on July 17, 2007 at 3:20 pm
You could, of course, drop the religion that teaches these things. Treat god as an iron age idea that is out of it's time and live among the other people of the world with reason and understanding.
14. Comment #56875 by phil rimmer on July 17, 2007 at 3:27 pm
15. Comment #57188 by Happy Hominid on July 18, 2007 at 1:58 pm
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