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Curriculum for Baptist School

by Castle Hills First Baptist School

Thanks to Karen Owens for sending in the link to this website.

http://chfbs.org/
Castle Hills First Baptist School

http://chfbs.org/high_school/high_sch_math.htm

GEOMETRY
Students will examine the nature of God as they progress in their
understanding of mathematics. Students will understand the
absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was
the inventor of that consistency. They will see God's
nature revealed in the order and precision they review foundational
concepts while being able to demonstrate geometric thinking
and spatial reasoning. The study of the basics of geometry through
making and testing conjectures regarding mathematical and
real-world patterns will allow the students to understand the absolute
consistency of God as seen in the geometric principles he
created...

ALGEBRA II
Students will examine the nature of God as they progress in their
understanding of mathematics. Students will understand the
absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was
the inventor of that consistency. Mathematical study will
result in a greater appreciation of God and His works in creation...

PRE-CALCULUS
Students will examine the nature of God as they progress in their
understanding of mathematics. Students will understand the
absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was
the inventor of that consistency. Mathematical study will
result in a greater appreciation of God and His works in creation.
Students who have successfully completed Geometry and
Algebra 2 will develop skills in advanced algebra, analytic geometry,
and trigonometry. The students will focus on the
mathematics concepts that connect the thoughts of the mind with the
realities of the universe, experiencing the creative power and
order of God…

CALCULUS
Students will examine the nature of God as they progress in their
understanding of mathematics. Students will understand the
absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was
the inventor of that consistency. Mathematical study will
result in a greater appreciation of God and His works in creation. The
students will understand the basic ideas of both differential
and integral calculus and its importance and historical applications.
The students will recognize that God created our minds to be
able to see that the universe can be calculated by mental methods.

. . . to lead students, in partnership with families, to know Christ
and make Christ known.

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http://chfbs.org/high_school/high_sch_english.htm

NINTH GRADE WORLD LITERATURE I
First Semester
The students will use essential English skills in communicating with
God and others. [...]

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http://chfbs.org/high_school/high_school_courses.htm

http://chfbs.org/high_school/high_sch_science_history.htm

BIOLOGY

Students will study the physical life of God's creation. They will
continue to develop skills in the use of the scientific method. [...]

http://chfbs.org/high_school/high_sch_fine_arts.htm

ART
Students will understand that art is a gift from God designed for His
worship. [...]

CHOIR
Students will understand that music is a gift from God designed for
His worship. [...]

PHOTOGRAPHY
Through photography the students will understand that God is
interested in beauty, that He is pleased with art. [...]

THEATER ARTS
Students will understand that they have theatrical gifts from God.
These gifts are to be used in worship to Him. [...]

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http://chfbs.org/elementary/kinder_overview.htm

KINDERGARTEN OVERVIEW

The creative nature of God is revealed to students by studying the God
of creation. Students will discuss specifically what God created on
each of the six days of Creation. Students will also discuss choices
they will make in their family and at school. Students will learn not
to choose violence, jealousy or dishonesty, but to choose obedience.
Jesus is the model of a decision-maker that is studied. Students are
introduced to the attributes of Jesus such as love, kindness,
gentleness, and honesty. [...]

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1. Comment #62278 by juandelaforet on August 9, 2007 at 7:25 am

Please tell me this is a joke.... Oh, it's not.... I think I've just been a bit sick in my mouth. :-(

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2. Comment #62290 by John the Atheist on August 9, 2007 at 7:44 am

It's no joke, I went to Portland Christian High School, and their curriculum was nearly identical.

The only problem I have with Baptists is they don't hold them under long enough.

-unknown

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3. Comment #62310 by jonecc on August 9, 2007 at 8:34 am

I thought it must be a joke as well, but if it is it's an elaborate one.

Their website is appallingly laid out. Half the pages (including the one above) link to no other page, including the home page, and it's littered with spelling errors. If it was a spoof, you'd expect higher design standards.

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4. Comment #62320 by elfinabout on August 9, 2007 at 9:05 am

I want to scream.

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5. Comment #62324 by konquererz on August 9, 2007 at 9:34 am

Well, nothing new. I spent four years in private school, this is exactly how its put. I do like the parts where they teach the scientific method. Yeah, bet that gets tons of play from the teachers.

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6. Comment #62327 by epeeist on August 9, 2007 at 9:51 am

Students will understand the absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was the inventor of that consistency.

Unfortunately that implies god didn't get it quite right. If it is consistent then it can't be complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems

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7. Comment #62330 by k1mgy on August 9, 2007 at 9:56 am

I found the "KINDERGARTEN OVERVIEW" to be the most frightening (I have two 4 year olds):

The creative nature of God is revealed to students by studying the God of creation. Students will discuss specifically what God created on each of the six days of Creation. Students will also discuss choices they will make in their family and at school. Students will learn not to choose violence, jealousy or dishonesty, but to choose obedience. Jesus is the model of a decision-maker that is studied. Students are introduced to the attributes of Jesus such as love, kindness,
gentleness, and honesty. [...]

Obedience. Got to keep them in line and properly brainwashed so that, later on, they'll do whatever they're told in the name of "god" and "country".

Time to vomit.

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8. Comment #62336 by Kakashi_monkey on August 9, 2007 at 10:15 am

That cirriculum is so horrible! I'm taking Pre-Calc this year, but I'm certainly not going to study God's use of Pre-calc in making everything (looks like even God needs a cookbook). I'm taking good old Pre-calc as JUST MATH. Not God's cookbook.

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9. Comment #62339 by Diplo on August 9, 2007 at 10:30 am

I bet their carpentry lessons are boring, too?

"What are we making today miss? Oh, not crosses again!!!"...

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10. Comment #62340 by RascoHeldall on August 9, 2007 at 10:30 am

Child abusers. There should not be a place for these sorts of people in our society.

On a less disgusted note, I am amused at the idiocy of the suggestion that God can be revealed through mathematics. So if I have two apples, and I am given another two, because I now have 4 that means God exists? What would the answer be if he didn't?

The pathetic thing is, the brighter kids will see this. My hope is that the abusers, in their cynical desperation to brainwash the children at every opportunity, may actually be shooting themselves in the foot with such overkill.

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11. Comment #62342 by epeeist on August 9, 2007 at 10:38 am

Comment #62330 by k1mgy

Obedience. Got to keep them in line and properly brainwashed so that, later on, they'll do whatever they're told in the name of "god" and "country".

In another thread the wee flea complained about me referring to religion as a pyramid selling scheme...

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12. Comment #62343 by Tyler Durden on August 9, 2007 at 10:38 am

Comment #62339 by Diplo

I bet their carpentry lessons are boring, too?
"What are we making today miss? Oh, not crosses again!!!"...

lol. Imagine lunchtime: loaves and fishes, again!!!

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13. Comment #62347 by bluebird on August 9, 2007 at 10:56 am

Tyler Durden and Diplo, hee hee hee, thanks:)

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14. Comment #62349 by Klaatu barada nikto on August 9, 2007 at 11:04 am

Comment #62340 by RascoHeldall

So if I have two apples, and I am given another two, because I now have 4 that means God exists? What would the answer be if he didn't?

Don't forget to factor in the talking snakes.

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15. Comment #62351 by Yorker on August 9, 2007 at 11:16 am

"Students will understand the absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was the inventor of that consistency."

What percentage of religite kids are going to have to worry about their education when they come across Godel, if indeed any get that far.

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16. Comment #62355 by JanChan on August 9, 2007 at 11:29 am

I can just imagine how a study of secularization will be like for these people:

Student will examine the nature of God in the history of the Enlightenment and understand its absolute consistency with God, and learn that God's nature permits a separation of Church and State. So that in no matters of state, including education, are we suppose to favour God, ... wait a minute, Oh Shit!

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17. Comment #62356 by Theocrapcy on August 9, 2007 at 11:35 am

You may as well just cut off the top of our head, scoop out the useless mush in your skull, and then attend this school.

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18. Comment #62358 by discipline on August 9, 2007 at 11:51 am

I don't find this funny at all. As RascoHeldall said, this is child abuse, plain and simple. It's amazing that any child can overcome this sort of incessant indoctrination. It's tragic and sad that they will spend their whole lives blinded to the beauty of reality by lies.

Besides mocking them in online forums, what can we American atheists/secularists do about this? Raise national science standards, even for private religious schools? Rescind their tax-free status? Prevent them from getting accredited? Require colleges to not accept students with this "education"? Require employers to not hire them?

Obviously, we need all these things, but I'm not holding my breath. We need a "Marshall Plan" for science education. Even with that, it'll be many generations before the US reaches the level of "enlightenment" of the secular European democracies (where it seems from the other threads that the only problem is a widespread belief in crystals and astrology).

Now I've gone and depressed myself.

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19. Comment #62363 by Northern Bright on August 9, 2007 at 12:12 pm

5. Comment #62324 by konquererz on August 9, 2007 at 9:34 am
Well, nothing new. I spent four years in private school, this is exactly how its put.

It's not that I don't believe you, Konquererz - I'm not suggesting you're lying or anything. But my brain simply can't take in the idea of a school curriculum like this. It's obscene. (But even as I write that, there's a bit of me that's half-expecting a Christian to pop up and confess to having made the whole thing up just to get us going.)

I do like the parts where they teach the scientific method.

Yes, I was wondering whether anyone else had choked on that one! Just imagine:
Hypothesis: God makes the sun rise.
Test: Did the sun rise this morning?
Answer: Yes
Conclusion: God exists!
And to think we dumb atheists claim there's no scientific basis to Christianity ....

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20. Comment #62366 by damianpeterson on August 9, 2007 at 12:19 pm

As a web developer and an atheist I don't know which upsets me more, the curriculum or the fact that every link opens a new page.

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21. Comment #62368 by damianpeterson on August 9, 2007 at 12:24 pm

The Crusades and The Holocaust
Students will examine the nature of God as they progress in their understanding of suffering...

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22. Comment #62371 by Cartomancer on August 9, 2007 at 12:30 pm

UNIVERSITY APPLICATIONS

Students about to graduate will come to understand the true nature of God, his divine vengefulness, transcendent sadism and incomprehensible caprice as they get turned down by every university they apply for through no fault of their own.

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23. Comment #62379 by PeterK on August 9, 2007 at 1:47 pm

What frightens me is there has to be a certain percentage of children brought up in households that support this type of education, and just want to scream in utter agony at the prospect of being forced to attend a school like like this. There must be a place where they can go to be rescued from this chamber of horrors. We have now seen hell for children.

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24. Comment #62381 by zenmite on August 9, 2007 at 1:59 pm

Cartomancer said; Students about to graduate will come to understand the true nature of God, his divine vengefulness, transcendent sadism and incomprehensible caprice as they get turned down by every university they apply for through no fault of their own.

Nah. The U.S. will have become a theocracy and they'll go on to graduate from Regent University and get a nice job in some future version of the Bush administration like so many today.

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25. Comment #62386 by Nails on August 9, 2007 at 2:23 pm

This should be illegal.
do you guys not have a trades description act that you can prosecute these nutters under?
Calling itself a school when it's just a jumped up church with more than one book (but not many more, obviously)

Cartomancer - cracking bit of postulating there.

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26. Comment #62388 by Corylus on August 9, 2007 at 2:35 pm

Wow, I was getting depressed about this one but then I took a look at the curriculum and the phrase 'shooting oneself in the foot' came to mind.

Do they have the slightest comprehension of the work of the thinkers that they are actually teaching??

Especially in English... (10th Grade)

The Enlightenment and Revolution literature covered is Tartuffe, the writings of Rousseau, Newton, Descartes, Faust, William Blake, Wordsworth and George Elliot.

Well Blake, although a mystic, was a complete non-conformist and as for George Eliot - near as dammit to an atheist as I have ever read e.g. -

God, immortality, duty -- how inconceivable the first, how unbelievable the second, how peremptory and absolute the third.

(hmm.. maybe they don't even realise that 'George' wasn't a bloke...)

Then later...

The study will include Pygmalion, Cry, the Beloved Country, The Chosen, My Antonia, a Russian writer study, Hemingway and Dylan Thomas.

Bernard Shaw!! Lets look at what he said....

The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

Then Ernest "all thinking men are atheists" Hemingway.

Bugger me! The peasants will revolt...

Smiles.

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27. Comment #62389 by ? on August 9, 2007 at 2:44 pm

There is something sort of desparate about these people. Its as if they think God will evaporate if they don't chant his name every few seconds!

Can they order of cup of coffee without going on about how ...I don't know... God wants us to be wide awake and focussed to resist the Devil; coffee wakes me up and helps me concentrate, therefore the existence of coffee proves the existence of God or some such silliness?

I went to religious schools, and yes, they would bring up religion in non-theology subjects, but it wasn't this constant hypnotic drone of GodGodGodGodGod drowning out the actual subject matter.

The bit advertising the Math Dept. was painful to read in its crushing redundancy. If I ever hear the phrase "absolute consistency" again, I'll go mad! Really, whoever wrote that must have severe OCD or some neurological impairment.

Weird!

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28. Comment #62398 by PaulJ on August 9, 2007 at 3:09 pm

Students will examine the nature of God as they progress in their understanding of mathematics. Students will understand the absolute consistency of mathematical principles and know that God was the inventor of that consistency.

Say it enough times, then surely it must be true....

Students will learn not to choose violence, jealousy or dishonesty, but to choose obedience.

"You will choose to obey. You WILL!"

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29. Comment #62401 by Janus on August 9, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Yes, this should be illegal. I don't mean that this school and its ilk shouldn't be granted accreditation, I mean that it shouldn't be legal to send a child, any child, to such a school. It's obscene.

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30. Comment #62405 by drive1 on August 9, 2007 at 4:07 pm

PE: Leap for Jesus
RE: More Jesus, plus some other minor religions that are clearly crazy and wrong
Lunch Break: Scoff for Heaven
Geography: Yup, the Flood really happened.
Music: No penis shaped woodwind instruments and no rock music.
Choir Practice: compulsory pederasty
Sex Ed': Don't. Just don't!
Biology: dissect a worm and watch its soul fly free.
Those poor kids.

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31. Comment #62409 by mmurray on August 9, 2007 at 4:27 pm

SCHOOL VERSE:
"But those who hope in the Lord, will renew their strength. They will soar on wings of eagles,
they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint."
Isaiah 40:31 NIV

I'll bet this lot win the inter schools cross country each year.

Michael

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32. Comment #62410 by mmurray on August 9, 2007 at 4:29 pm

Everybody should have a look at the links as the extracts given above are a bit short. For example the all important test:

BIOLOGY

Students will study the physical life of God's creation. They will continue to develop skills in the use of the scientific method. The students will learn methods and techniques of scientific study, general attributes of the cell and its processes, characteristics of the wide spectrum of living organisms, the classification, similarities and differences of the five kingdoms, evolutionary models and the creation model, the mechanics of inheritance, disease and disorders, and the workings of the human body. Students will gain experience in manipulating the conditions of a laboratory investigation and in evaluating the applications of biological principles in everyday life.

Actually reading the maths and science parts it looks like a pretty poor attempt to `christianize' a document someone already had by sticking in a few key phrases and sentences everywhere. I am reminded of things I write for my work where you are told to mention the strategic plan. So you write what you would have written anyway and then stick a few references to the strategic plan in here and there afterwards. It would be interesting to know what actually happens in the class room. This could just be principally marketing for the parents.

Michael

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33. Comment #62428 by steveroot on August 9, 2007 at 5:10 pm

Well, I guess my child won't be a cheerleader. Cheer Guidelines here:
http://chfbs.org/athletics/athletics.htm
Steve

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34. Comment #62435 by bluebird on August 9, 2007 at 5:45 pm

Ready, OK. gimme a G...
http://www.cheercca.com/camps.html

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35. Comment #62436 by Dr Benway on August 9, 2007 at 5:49 pm

Wife: I don't like God!
Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your God. I love it. I'm having God God God God God God God baked beans God God God and God!

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36. Comment #62439 by Goldy on August 9, 2007 at 6:03 pm

God, god, god, god, lovely god, wonderful god!
I'd woryy, but I was reading an article yesterday while waiting to be given a blood sample to take back to analyse. The author was suggesting that as a result of the current political situation in the US, the threat of theocracy was waning and the US was slowly moving towards the European model. Europe, the staunchly secular society, was going the way of the US because of Islam. The growing Islamic voice in Europe was encouraging a growing Christianisation (the Pope did say he wants to re-Christianise Europe, I believe).
The kids might leave this high school as adept at modern life as a Saudi graduate in theology. However, they might also concievably have their latent athiesm reinforced. Whatever, if that article I read was true, then they'd be able to get jobs in Europe ;-)

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37. Comment #62440 by HappyPrimate on August 9, 2007 at 6:08 pm

While I find this curriculum highly offensive and utterly brainwashing, it is light stuff compared to what the Islamist do to their children.

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38. Comment #62444 by steveroot on August 9, 2007 at 6:22 pm

34. Comment #62435 by bluebird on August 9, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Ready, OK. gimme a G...
http://www.cheercca.com/camps.html

Look at the CCA Music Policy here:
http://www.cheercca.com/pdf.html
Good guidelines for appropriate lyrics, pelvic motions, structural undergarments... I wonder if the Catholics would be interested in this.
Steve

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39. Comment #62456 by star_aas on August 9, 2007 at 7:41 pm

Well, this is nothing. To see a real nutjob check out http://www.trnty.edu/faculty/robbert/SRobbertWebFolder/ChristianityMath/LinearAlgebra.html for "Christian math". What makes it worse is it's at the college level. Really, you have to see this page to believe it.

An example:

The dimension of a vector space is a constant which indicates the number of vectors in any basis for the vector space. This number is independent of which basis is selected.
Blah..blahh...real math, and then...

God also is infinite dimensional, very likely even of uncountable dimension! There is no way to escape God's presence!

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40. Comment #62458 by Chayanov on August 9, 2007 at 7:49 pm

"Students will examine the nature of God..."

If only.

"Through photography the students will understand that God is interested in beauty, that He is pleased with art."

Including Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ"?

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41. Comment #62480 by viccro on August 10, 2007 at 12:13 am

I am, as of now, cracking up. This "school" is right across the street from where I went for elementary, and...we'd always heard that those kids were weird.

There were also issues with a little girl from my mother's Catholic parish attending CHFB and being called a devil worshiper.

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42. Comment #62494 by epeeist on August 10, 2007 at 1:34 am

Comment #62440 by HappyPrimate

I find this curriculum highly offensive and utterly brainwashing, it is light stuff compared to what the Islamist do to their children.

Speaking with no evidence at all, but isn't the aim of the xian right in the US to have a constitution similar to that in Iran, i.e. an apparent democracy, but with the real power held by the theocrats?

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43. Comment #62503 by Mercury on August 10, 2007 at 2:01 am

"PHOTOGRAPHY
Through photography the students will understand that God is
interested in beauty, that He is pleased with art. [...]"

I would have thought that taking God's picture would be top of the list. Oh, I forgot, God is camera-shy!!!

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44. Comment #62519 by sornord on August 10, 2007 at 3:07 am

Absolute consistency in math: wonder what will happen when they get to irrational or imaginary numbers...or will they get to THAT level of math?

Sounds more what I imagine a Madrassa would be...

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45. Comment #62551 by Tyler Durden on August 10, 2007 at 4:57 am

"Really, whoever wrote that must have severe OCD or some neurological impairment."

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a psychiatric disorder most commonly characterized by a subject's obsessive, distressing, intrusive thoughts and related compulsions (tasks or "rituals") which attempt to neutralize the obsessions. Thus it is an anxiety disorder.

Obsessions are defined by:
1. Recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are experienced at some time during the disturbance, as intrusive and inappropriate and that cause marked anxiety or distress.
2. The thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries about real-life problems.
3. The person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or images, or to neutralize them with some other thought or action.
4. The person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or images are a product of his or her own mind, and are not based in reality.
5. The tendency to haggle over small details that the viewer is unable to fix or change in any way. This begins a mental pre-occupation with that which is inevitable.

Compulsions are defined by:
1. Repetitive behaviors or mental acts that the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession, or according to rules that must be applied rigidly.
2. The behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these behaviors or mental acts either are not connected in a realistic way with what they are designed to neutralize or prevent or are clearly excessive.

Sounds a lot like religion to me:
- Praying.
- Repeating the rosary, stations of the cross.
- Going to church.
- Going to church every day.
- Talking to "god" during the day.
- Kissing rosary beads.
- Hoping "god" will make things better.
- Wearing "holy" water before leaving the house.
- Blessing oneself while passing a church.
- Pilgrimages.
- Baptism; Communion; Confirmation.
- Last rites.

From a psychological point of view, religion is actually exempt from this type of branding. You can have an anxiety disorder or personality disorder that we as atheists would see is directly caused by religion, but once again, religion gets a free pass.

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46. Comment #62558 by I'mNotAlone on August 10, 2007 at 5:47 am

Since he is interested in beauty and pleased with art, does that mean he also likes pictures of naked women?

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47. Comment #62573 by AtheistAttorney on August 10, 2007 at 6:51 am

To say I was horrified would be a gross understatement. I also thought it was a joke, a hoax by some well meaning trickster prone to hyperbole but I must say it seems quite real (if badly put together) and detailed - have a look at the rigorous admission process with all the interrogation the poor child has to undergo - and you can be sure boy that among all the things the child may never do, including draw an anti-xtian symbol they make sure they target the gays and their supporters who are listed with those who commit violent acts or theft.

Those children will find it hard to ever recover after 12 years of that - on the other hand they may be so glad to be rid of it - they might see reason - i dunno?

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48. Comment #62582 by Northern Bright on August 10, 2007 at 7:22 am

Here are just a few gems from the "school" website:

Castle Hills First Baptist School
A Ministry of Castle Hills First Baptist Church

Note that: it sees itself as a direct part of the ministry of the church.

Our mission is leading students, in partnership with families, to know Christ and to make Christ known

So, not to give the children a rounded education that will form the basis for a lifetime of learning and an effective career, then?

The declaration that parents have to sign:

I have read and fully support the Statement of Faith of Castle Hills First Baptist School.
Should the time ever come that I can no longer support the Statement of Faith, I will discretely and politely withdraw my child from Castle Hills First Baptist School.

So if the parent stops believing, the child's education has to be interrupted, whether the parent wants it to be or not. And if the parent objects at a later date to something the school stands for, going public isn't allowed.
(I note that elsewhere on their website they refer to all truth being God's truth. Sadly they don't seem to subscribe to the notion that all spelling is God's spelling and their own education was obviously too focused on God, God, God, God, God to have taught them the difference between "discrete" and "discreet". But hey, they're only a school, wanting to take people's money for educating their children - why should they be able to spell? Good spelling is probably the mark of the devil anyway.)

And finally, from their pre-registration questionnaire relating to children enrolling in kindergarten classes:

4. Would you describe your child as being strong-willed or compliant?
Strong-willed Compliant
5. On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being strong-willed and 1 being passive), how would you
rate your child?
6. How do you instruct (discipline) your child? (Check all applicable)
a) Redirection
b) Warnings (# of warnings before action is taken ____)
c) Think and pray time outs (Length of time outs____)
d) Corporal punishment ( Frequently Seldom)

Is it just me, or is anyone else out there feeling rather sick?

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49. Comment #62587 by epeeist on August 10, 2007 at 7:55 am

Comment #62582 by Northern Bright

Here are just a few gems from the "school" website

Another nice post Northern Bright.

Have a glance at some of the requirements on clothing for cheer leaders (an occupation I find slightly nauseating, why can't they play rugby, or even better fence). Compare its restrictions with those on the silver ring thing girl.

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50. Comment #62619 by issuser on August 10, 2007 at 11:56 am

All of the above points are well taken. However, I think most of the United States spelling bee chanpions go to a home school which teaches these truths. It is easilly argued that the kids are getting a far better education than those kids in public school. This fact should not be overlooked. In addition, these private school kids score in the top percentile in national standardized testing comparative to their public school peers. This is undenyable. Bring kids from Japan into the picture and the education portion of your ridicule is placed on it's head.

The religion portion of it is something many wish to eradicate and focus on as "brainwashing." Yet Biblical truths have yet to be debunked and never will. This thread is a straw man in it's purest form.

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