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3. Comment #63514 by Crazymalc on August 14, 2007 at 4:10 pm
4. Comment #63515 by sane1 on August 14, 2007 at 4:14 pm
5. Comment #63516 by Salvatore on August 14, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Think of it, at least ten of your hundred closest friends are the "pissed off faithless"
6. Comment #63517 by sane1 on August 14, 2007 at 4:16 pm
7. Comment #63518 by Crazymalc on August 14, 2007 at 4:16 pm
8. Comment #63521 by BAEOZ on August 14, 2007 at 4:35 pm
in all its scabious and purulent magisterial arrogance.
9. Comment #63522 by Big T on August 14, 2007 at 4:47 pm
Good article. I especially like his referring to Paine, Jefferson and Madison as the original "unholy Trinity." If I hear one more commentator claim that America was founded on 'Judaeo-Christian values', I'm going to vomit. How many people today know that when Thomas Jefferson was elected president, some (very very foolish) people buried their family Bibles in their back yards, intending to dig them up after Jefferson left office, for fear that he was an evil atheist who would persecute Christian Americans? In my opinion, America was founded on Enlightenment principles at least as much as Judaeo-Christian ones. Whether Jefferson was a Deist, agnostic, or atheist is debatable, but certainly all the founding fathers wanted Americans to have both freedom OF religion and, if they chose, freedom FROM religion - i.e., the right to be atheist. Having chaplains pray before sessions of Congress, displaying the Ten Commandments in courthouses, putting 'In God We Trust' on coins, are all (again, in my opinion) violations of at least the principle of the separation of church and state.10. Comment #63534 by monkey2 on August 14, 2007 at 5:56 pm
11. Comment #63555 by John P on August 14, 2007 at 7:28 pm
12. Comment #63570 by Tumara Baap on August 14, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Other estimates I've seen put the number of atheists/agnostics/skeptics in the U.S. as high as 20%. From another angle, a recent poll that posed "I have never doubted the existence of God" had 40% of responders disagreeing. Obviously a lot more sit on the fence than what's generally anticipated, and this may have much to do with the amazing success of the unholy trinity.13. Comment #63572 by dloubet on August 14, 2007 at 10:43 pm
I've said before that my ideal atheist spokesman would be someone with Sam's clarity, Dawkin's voice, and Hitchen's vocabulary.14. Comment #63579 by zasurein on August 15, 2007 at 12:52 am
While the article is positive and assuredly another display of atheism finally beginning to show its influence, I can't help but cringe at the usage of statistics... perhaps it isn't prudent to presume, seeing as (apparently) 'at least 10% of Americans identify themselves as atheists', that 10% of every subdivision will also be atheists? I'm sure those fundamentalist faithfuls which exist would endeavour to befriend mainly those who share their views, etc., etc.15. Comment #63582 by rutski on August 15, 2007 at 1:23 am
I would like to see a source for Weitzel's claim that over 10% of Americans identify themselves as atheists.16. Comment #63635 by Scotty B on August 15, 2007 at 6:35 am
Heh, I couldn't help reading POF as 'People of Faith,' but given the context, I knew that wasn't right.17. Comment #63641 by tieInterceptor on August 15, 2007 at 7:24 am
18. Comment #63642 by Robert W on August 15, 2007 at 7:30 am
The number of atheists in the U.S. is normally estimated between 10-12 percent. But I've seen varying numbers. Certainly, if you add agnostics to the mix, the number will be higher. It really all depends on how you slice the pie. But, the actual percentage is not all that important to the over meaning of the piece, which is, that Atheists are a minority who may now be finding their voice in the unholy trinity and writers of a similar ilk . . . regardless of actual numbers.19. Comment #63643 by Frying Pantheist on August 15, 2007 at 7:35 am
over ten percent of Americans who identify themselves as atheists (closeted or otherwise)
20. Comment #63644 by Oliver Leif on August 15, 2007 at 7:37 am
RobertW: "And I have to be honest here, I'd much rather be known as a POF than a "bright." Whose bright idea was that, anyway?"21. Comment #63682 by Dr Benway on August 15, 2007 at 10:57 am
This unholy trinity is the rising voice of over ten percent of Americans who identify themselves as atheists (closeted or otherwise) who are mad as heck—we don't believe in hell—and who aren't going to take it anymore.For the record, I do not believe in heck.
22. Comment #63790 by Beachbum on August 15, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Several independent sources are more difficult to ignore than a single source.
1. Comment #63506 by sane1 on August 14, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Allies in print are worthwhile. More power to him. It can't be too easy in Wisconsin.
And, I may travel to Wisconsin just to hear Hitch talk.
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