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Sunday, August 19, 2007 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document The age of endarkenment

by David Colquhoun, Guardian

Reposted from:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/aug/15/endarkenment

Why is no one questioning the rise of new-age nonsense in the name of science, asks David Colquhoun

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Vials containing pills for homeopathic remedies

Education: Elitist activity. Cost ineffective. Unpopular with Grey Suits. Now largely replaced by Training." Michael O'Donnell, in A Sceptic's Medical Dictionary (BMJ publishing, 1997)

The enlightenment was a beautiful thing. People cast aside dogma and authority. They started to think for themselves. Natural science flourished. Understanding of the real world increased. The hegemony of religion slowly declined. Real universities were created and eventually democracy took hold. The modern world was born. Until recently we were making good progress. So what went wrong?

The past 30 years or so have been an age of endarkenment. It has been a period in which truth ceased to matter very much, and dogma and irrationality became once more respectable. This matters when people delude themselves into believing that we could be endangered at 45 minutes' notice by non-existent weapons of mass destruction.

It matters when reputable accountants delude themselves into thinking that Enron-style accounting is acceptable. It matters when people are deluded into thinking that they will be rewarded in paradise for killing themselves and others. It matters when bishops attribute floods to a deity whose evident vengefulness and malevolence leave one reeling. And it matters when science teachers start to believe that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.

A minor aspect of the endarkenment has been a resurgence in magical and superstitious ideas about medicine. The existence of homeopaths on the high street won't usually do too much harm. Their sugar pills contain nothing and they won't poison your body. The greater danger is that they poison your mind.

It is true that consulting a homeopath could endanger your health if it delays proper diagnosis, or if they recommend sugar pills to prevent malaria, but the real objection is cultural. Homeopaths are a manifestation of a society in which wishful thinking matters more than truth; a society where what I say three times is true and never mind the facts.

If this attitude were restricted to half-educated herbalists and crackpot crystal gazers, perhaps one could shrug it off. But the endarkenment extends to the highest reaches of the media, government and universities. And it corrupts science itself.

Even respectable newspapers still run nonsensical astrology columns and respected members of parliament seem quite unaware of what constitutes evidence. Conservative MP David Tredinnick advocated homeopathic treatment of foot and mouth disease and Lord Hunt, as health minister, referred to 'psychic surgery' as a "profession" in a letter written in response to question by a clinical scientist.

Under the influence of the Department of Health, normally sane pharmacologists on the Medicines and Health Regulatory Authority, which is meant to "ensure the medicines work", changed the rules to allow homeopathic and herbal products to be labelled with "traditional" uses, while requiring no evidence to be produced that they work.

Tony Blair himself created religiously divided schools at a time when that has never been more obviously foolish, and he defended in the House of Commons, schools run by "young-earth' creationists", the lunatic fringe of religious zealots.

The Blairs' fascination with pendulum wavers, crystals and other new-age nonsense is well known. When their elders set examples like that, is it any surprise that more than 30% of students in the UK now say they believe in creationism and intelligent design? As the biologist Steve Jones has pointed out so trenchantly, this makes it hard to teach them science at all.

Homeopaths and herbalists may be anti-science but they are not nearly as worrying as universities who try to justify the awarding of bachelor of science degrees in subjects that are anti-science to their core.

The University of Bedfordshire accredited a foundation degree course in nutritional therapy, at the Institute of Optimum Nutrition (IoN). The give-away is the term "nutritional therapy". Such therapists can claim, with next to no evidence, that changing your diet, and buying from them a lot of expensive "supplements", will cure almost any disease.

The IoN was founded in 1984 by Patrick Holford, whose qualification in nutrition is a diploma awarded by this institute in 1995. His advocacy of vitamin C as better than conventional drugs to treat Aids is truly scary.

The documents that relate to this accreditation are mind-boggling. One of the recommended books for the course, on "Energy Medicine" has been reviewed by the Skeptic magazine thus: "This book masquerades as science, but it amounts to little more than speculation and polemic in support of a preconceived belief."

The report of the university's Teaching Quality and Enhancement Committee (May 24th 2004) looks terribly official, with at least three "quality assurance" people in attendance. But the minutes show that they discussed almost everything about the course apart from the one thing that really matters, the truth of what was being taught. The accreditation was granted. It's true that the QAA criticised the university for this, but only because they failed to tick a box, not because of the content of the course.

The University of Central Lancashire's justification for its BSc in homeopathic medicine consists of 49 pages of what the late, great Ted Wragg might have called "world-class meaningless bollocks". All the buzzwords are there: "multi-disciplinary delivery", "formative and summative assessment", log books and schedules. But there is not a single word about the fact that the course is devoted to a totally discredited early 19th century view of medicine, not a word about truth and falsehood. Has it become politically incorrect to question things like this?

These examples, and many like them, result, I believe, from the bureaucratisation and corporatisation of science and education. Power has gradually ebbed away from the people who do the research and teaching, and become centralised in the hands of people who do neither.

The sad thing is that the intentions are good. Taxpayers have every right to expect that their money is well spent, and students have every right to expect that a university will teach them well. How, then, have we ended up with attempts to deliver these things that do more harm than good?

One reason is that the bureaucrats who impose these schemes have no interest in data. They don't do randomised tests, or even run pilot schemes, on their educational or management theories because, like an old-fashioned clinician, they just know they are right. Enormous harm has been done to science by valuing quantity over quality, short-termism over originality and, at the extremes, fraud over honesty.

Science, left to itself, and run by scientists, has created much of the world we live in. It has self-correcting mechanisms built in, so that mistakes, and the occasional bit of fraud, are soon eliminated. Corporatisation has meant that, increasingly, you are not responsible to your conscience, just to your line manager. The result of this, I fear, is a decrease in honesty, and in the long run, inevitably, a decrease in quality and originality.

If all we had to worry about was a few potty homeopaths and astrologers, it might be better to shrug, and get on with some real science. But now the endarkenment extends to parliament, universities and schools, it is far too dangerous to ignore.

David Colquhoun is a pharmacologist at University College London who writes the Improbable Science blog and website, where you can find more details on the issues discussed above

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1. Comment #64298 by impious on August 19, 2007 at 12:41 pm

Do the homeopaths honestly believe in the nonsense that they peddle?

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2. Comment #64301 by ? on August 19, 2007 at 12:54 pm

 avatarI know how you feel, Impious; its hard to imagine believing it someting that is blatantly contradicted by everyday experiences. A trace amount of some chemical mixed with water makes it super-powerful? We would all be poisoned constantly! Other forms of magical thinking protect themselves by retreating into metaphysics. This one doesn't, but still survives.

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3. Comment #64303 by Bremas on August 19, 2007 at 1:10 pm

My cousin just passed the California medical boards in order to practice medicine in the state of California. She is a homeopath, and the answer is yes they believe it. Everyone in the family is so proud of her for being a docter.

I'm the only one that has called bullshit. And I used to think I had an intelligent family.

Sad part is... her brother is a real docter who does real, cutting edge research. I haven't asked him what he thinks of all this.

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4. Comment #64307 by Chayanov on August 19, 2007 at 1:38 pm

Don't forget reiki -- you can cure someone's illness just by waving your hands over them.

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5. Comment #64316 by Veronique on August 19, 2007 at 2:23 pm

 avatarOh god. It doesn't stop does it?

I get these feelings of impotent rage:-). Colquhoun is right. That political leaders are up to their eyes in this shit; that they push through legislation actually rewarding purveyors of trash is forcing an endarkenment on all of us.

Do you think we are becoming a threatened species? We could apply for a grant to preserve us and our habitat:-).

Bremas, did your cousin have to undergo the fairly daunting requirements to graduate as a regular doctor? Does she have to practise as a resident in a proper hospital? How anyone can study medicine for 6 years and come out the other side as a homeopath boggles the mind.

Chayanov - they have to shake their hands to expel the 'bad' energy that they so kindly absorb from their patients' illnesses:-)

Pathetic isn't it?

Good morning to you all
V

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6. Comment #64318 by phil rimmer on August 19, 2007 at 2:28 pm

 avatarWhen I was ten I got an induction coil as a present. This buzzed and gave impressive electric shocks at two handles. I took this into school and made quite a hit with it.

At the time (glass) marbles were all the rage and in typical games you could win an opponents marble by hitting it from a distance. Always the sporting dunce, I lost most of mine quite quickly. I needed a plan. The impressive induction coil came to the rescue.

I noticed the handles of the machine could cup the marbles between their open cylindrical ends in a way that made it look designed for the purpose. I told people that using this machine for 30 seconds I could make their marbles roll straighter. I would charge them 1 marble for every ten treated. Challenged by sceptics I concocted the theory that the machine subtly altered the centre of balance of the marbles to partially compensate for any irregularity in them. (And yes, I really did talk like that as a ten year old.)

A few people tried it and of course it worked. I hadn't claimed too much. And people saw what they wished to see. Just so they could be sure that they weren't being fools they got their friends to try it. It worked for most of them. The boy who had all of his marbles "Electrolized" was my biggest fan (it was either that or he would look like the biggest idiot… which in fact he was). Electrolizing snowballed.

It all worked rather too well. I ended up with more marbles than I could hide in my desk and I soon attracted unwelcome attention from a teacher. I think it was only grudging admiration from him that got me off with only a promise to stop.

This was the best lesson of my life. I learned that people are wishful thinking, suggestible and lousy observers of subtle effects. My older smarter brother set me straight on this and pointed me towards Science the Redeemer. My wife, however, thinks that I might have made a mistake about what the real lesson was….

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7. Comment #64319 by impious on August 19, 2007 at 2:29 pm

Several years ago my mum was "treated" by a homeopath "doctor" for stomach ulcers. This "doctor" was actually a real doctor who took up homeopathy (perhaps because there was more money in it?). How can the conscience of a real doctor allow this? Surely a real doctor must know homeopathy is rubbish? I was too young and ignorant then to stop my mum from seeing this moron for "treatment".

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8. Comment #64325 by GodlessHeathen on August 19, 2007 at 3:09 pm

 avatarimpious: Medical doctors are highly trained diagnosticians and technicians, but not necessarily scientists. They are sometimes more susceptible to such rubbish than others because they're used to being told what does and does not work for medicine without having the time or ability to question the assertions.

It's unwise to assume a doctor (or any other person who might be endowed with "authority") is any more capable of filtering out the crap than any other human is.

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9. Comment #64333 by GhostPool on August 19, 2007 at 3:47 pm

When their elders set examples like that, is it any surprise that more than 30% of students in the UK now say they believe in creationism and intelligent design?

30% of students in the UK? Wow. I've just Googled this, and I found a column on a 2006 Mori poll for the BBC; only 48% of the British population accept the theory of evolution; 39% of people surveyed preferred to put their faith in creationism or ID. Over 40% believed that both theories should be taught in school science lessons. Of course I have no idea of the quality of the polling, but even if there's a large margin of error it still allows for a considerable amount of people in the UK not accepting the theory. I find it shocking and worrying.

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10. Comment #64334 by ? on August 19, 2007 at 3:50 pm

 avatarI wonder how rational or irrational the willing *patients* are when it comes to this kind of "medicine."

O.K., the treatments that violate simple laws of physics (like homeopathy)or actually reference supernatural powers are one thing.

But one isn't necessarily superstitious (maybe passive) to go along with treatments that are presented as valid by people whom the rest of society accepts as experts. Not being a doctor or biologist I only have a vague understanding of what my blood pressure medicine does, after all.

For instance, some people who go to chiropractors or herbalists might just have some vague notion of "herbs are good for your body" or "manipulating the back makes it feel better;" both of which are partially true.

Especially with chiropractic--everyone I know who uses this gives a simple, pragmatic reason. My back hurts and I know someone who told me a chiropractor can help.

I have NEVER heard a chiropractic patient defend, support or even mention any of the weird claims of the pseudo-science, nor have I heard of anyone actually going to them for anything except back pain. If I ever hear of someone saying that they are going to a chiropractor for their heart or eyesight (and the lunatic who founded it DID intend it as a cure for just about everything), I'll be sure to yell at them! (:

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11. Comment #64350 by dawson on August 19, 2007 at 5:30 pm

Physician, heal thine own brain!

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12. Comment #64352 by Chayanov on August 19, 2007 at 5:44 pm

Veronique -- And they're so deadly serious as they go through the motions (pun intended), pretending they really can push away, pull out, or redirect the body's energies, and insisting they can physically feel it happening.

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13. Comment #64361 by Cartomancer on August 19, 2007 at 6:46 pm

 avatarThirty per cent? Gaaah! I thought we were safe from this sort of infantile stupidity in England. I'm frightened. I think I'll just hole up in my room with a shotgun and as many tins of beans as I can grab to wait for the impending apocalypse...

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14. Comment #64391 by Philip1978 on August 20, 2007 at 12:35 am

 avatarCartomancer, you must take TEA with you in those situations, how else are you going to think properly?! hehehe

This is a frightening article, I have no time for medical nonsense especially when people's lives are at stake. I now refer to religion as psychological torture, this also has fallen into the same boat as far as I am concerned. This pathetic promise of things being better with the "drug" or "faith" being there to help rather than up to date peer reviewed medicine (Ok even that is nowhere near perfect but at least the promise is a better one)

You can see this sort of rubbish in Professor Dawkins's new program, my favourite was the group of Dowsers who failed to find the water. I think this is the perfect demonstration of "faith" at work. First when their supposed powers are proved beyond all doubt they are aghast, they get depressed and left in shock for a few minutes. then they begin to make things up like "oh but I usually stand on a raised platform when I do this and that's how I find water, they wouldn't let me do that and so that's why it didn't work!" Faith restored, madness resumes.

This is the same for the magic herb crowd, oh but I wasn't standing on my head with luminous underpants on so that's why I don't feel better! Nobody ever questions the actual cause of the problem, the medicine itself unless of course it has been properly peer reviewed in which case if the drug is later found to be a lie or is harmful then the company in question can be sued. But the magic herbs, they get a full government backing and everything they need to make money and lie to people... I can see something wrong here, I just can't put my finger on it...

Ah well, at least I have the Tea of Quetz to ward off all ills, woo hoo! :)

Cheers,

Philip

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15. Comment #64395 by Beachbum on August 20, 2007 at 1:01 am

 avatar13. Comment #64361 by Cartomancer on August 19, 2007 at 6:46 pm

Thirty per cent? Gaaah! I thought we were safe from this sort of infantile stupidity in England.


Ah! See, now you know how I feel. Not to make light of your bewilderment, but I have walked around on the mainland (US) shaking my head so much that people thought I had a nervous tick.

If I understand this right, by the principles of Homeopathy, my dish water is worth a fortune, and I already know how to do the hula.

Why did I work so hard to stay sane?

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16. Comment #64396 by automath on August 20, 2007 at 1:08 am

 avatarAt the danger of sounding smug and superior I'll express my thinking that this is an excellent article.

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17. Comment #64403 by Beachbum on August 20, 2007 at 1:51 am

 avatarby Charles Brooker
In the 18th century, a revolution in thought, known as the Enlightenment, dragged us away from the superstition and brutality of the Middle Ages toward a modern age of science, reason and democracy. It changed everything. If it wasn't for the Enlightenment, you wouldn't be reading this right now. You'd be standing in a smock throwing turnips at a witch. Yes, the Enlightenment was one of the most significant developments since the wheel. Which is why we're trying to bollocks it all up.


Could it be that the powers that be, want to see us in smocks again? Is the Endarkenment an actual pursuit? Maybe something to think about.

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18. Comment #64409 by Prufrock on August 20, 2007 at 2:52 am

The issue for me here is the downgrading of properly scientific education, the softening of intellectual rigour in popular disciplines like psychology, sociology and media studies, and the proliferation of the nonsense that it is better to be popular than correct. We live in the Big Brother society - both Orwellian and Channel Four reality programme - and our leaders need to be in touch with the perceptions of society rather than ensure the highest standards are maintained. Let's face it science is perceived as difficult and challenging because you can't assert beliefs without evidence and your friends can't support you when you're talking arrant nonsense. It seems to me that science is paying for its success and a couple of things have happened. I remember laughing in frightened incredulity when I was told of the Christian Scientist movement. This obvious oxymoron shows the need that the irrational and superstitious has to certify itself with something observable and credible, as a way of justifying its dubious existence. Another thing would be the inappropriate use of scientific mechanisms, which work perfectly when applied to the appropriate phenomena, but make no sense when applied to measure more subjective and ambiguous data. It is absurd to use the measuring tools used by physicists, biologist, chemists and mathematicians, to measure the effectiveness of educational programmes and then draw strange and unverifiable conclusions from this process. The same can be said about justifying psuedo scientific new age claims citing completely inappropriate psuedo scientific claptrap. It does not fit the description of a science therefore should not be using scientific methods of measurement. What is interesting is how so many people taken in by all of this nonsense? And what are trading standards and law enforcement agencies doing to ensure misrepresentation is not encouraged?

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19. Comment #64410 by rokort on August 20, 2007 at 2:52 am

 avatarI just heard and read somewhat shocking in the news here in the Netherlands:

If you are unemployed the organization that takes care of your unemployment benefit (UWV) can help you find your way back into the jobmarket. In order to prepare yourself for the big, bad and dangerous world called reality it's okay (i mean: UWV pays for it, and via taxes we supply the UWV with money) to use Tarot carts, horoscopes and spiritual healers to help you find a job....

Ironically enough, but no surprise i'd say, it's the religious parties in Parliament (Christians, Reformed) that object the most, saying it's no State-responsibility to sponsor 'woo-woo practice'.

Now who mentioned RD and others are overdoing it with their attack on this nonsense? Au contraire, there's still a long way to go. So keep the articles like the one above flowing!

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20. Comment #64415 by Prufrock on August 20, 2007 at 3:05 am

Now that is a little worrying as I have always respected the apparent rationality and secularity of countries like Holland and Scandinavia. Yeah, there is hope that 'woo-woo' practices can be chased out of existence. Maybe Christianity now only needs to focus on its own woo-hoos.

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21. Comment #64423 by aitchkay on August 20, 2007 at 3:24 am

 avatarI think RD said (or wrote) that people are not naturally very good at rational, critical thinking - that it's a skill that can be learned and developed through education and training. Perhaps it should be added to the national curriculum.

Also, isn't it about time someone prosecuted a homeopath under the trades description act?

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22. Comment #64444 by Mudskipper on August 20, 2007 at 5:19 am

 avatarI'm ashamed, it is true: The Univeristy of Central Lancashire offers BSCs in Complementry Medicine and another in Homeopathy and one in 'herbal medicine'. A whole BSC in homeopathy? What kind of intellectual challange will that be? They can't be much on theory, because they don't have one it's nonsense.

And a BSC? how shockingly bold is that. Absolute travesty. Reminds me of the time I was told by someone they were considering a MA in Aromatherapy. Couldn't keep an impassive face.

Well I feel even more vindicated not going to UCLancs as my local university, and did my degree with the OU instead.

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23. Comment #64446 by stephenray on August 20, 2007 at 5:26 am

In 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent stumble on a planet colonised by telephone sanitisers and the like. They have been 'sent ahead' by their home planet to prepare the way for a full scale exodus by the entire race when the planet is threatened with destruction.
For and Arthur gradually realise that there is no threat of destruction and no-one will follow the telephone sanitisers to this planet. It was simply a ruse to get rid of all the useless people from the homeworld.
I think it's a solution which we are soon going to have to consider seriously. We can send all the woo-woos, plus the unnecessary bureaucrats (which isn't all of them, by any means...)
Trouble is, somebody will want to send the lawyers, which would not suit me at all...

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24. Comment #64501 by j42lewis on August 20, 2007 at 9:36 am

impious:
"Do the homeopaths honestly believe in the nonsense that they peddle?"

Yes. Most of my relatives are dead-set on Homeopathy's effectiveness and superiority over impersonal, pharmaceutical-industry-dominated conventional medicine (indeed, how is it that a pet cat or any other animal could exhibit a placebo effect when being cured of disease via homeopathy, as will be aggressively alleged whenever any semblance of distrust in Homeopathy is detected?). It has "worked" for them so many times, that if it being a real treatment would necessitate re-writing all of our science textbooks, then by golly break out the pencils (a paraphrase of a direct quote). There are a ton of people who really really believe this stuff and get angry when you imply it is nonsense.

My uncle who works as a medical consultant is always sending me articles claiming Homeopathy has been scientifically verified... "The Holy Grail of Homeopathy" (http://www.newstarget.com/z001951.html) etc. These articles and the phenomenon as a whole have all the hallmarks of pseudo-scientific delusion, and yet I admit it is difficult to argue against these people at times.

Until one remembers that the UK Society of Homeopaths has stated "It has been established beyond doubt that the randomized controlled trial is not a fitting research tool with which to test homeopathy." This kind of clinches it for me - why would you cry foul over subjecting your remedies to tests when there are any tests whatsoever which support them? Honestly, how can a double blind trial not be a fitting research tool... simply have one of your guys do whatever it is he does, and give him either real or empty Homeopathy pills with which to do it without telling him which. If there's a statistically significant difference on any criteria what-so-ever between giving him real pills with which to do his work and giving him blanks, eureka! You've done it.

Sorry to rant.

-J.L.

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25. Comment #64505 by Prufrock on August 20, 2007 at 10:05 am

aitchkay, now you're talking. I'm naturally hopeless at everything, to begin with, but pick things up and reach competency quicker than most because I know I have to deliberately try harder in order to master material. I remember having problems when I was younger - a lot younger - making the transition from O level to A level English Lit, Maths and History. The reason? I didn't find out until I went to university and actually learned to think about what I was doing that I was simply taking in stuff but not really processing it, consciously, with the most wonderful thing in the known universe, a human brain. In effect I deliberately learned to be critical and, of course, to be creative on rare and necessary occasions. So much of what we learn is spoon fed to us that we seem to forsake the need to develop the kind of thinking skills necessary to ward off the superstitious drivel many take in, because they have not learned to think critically. Some know better of course and choose not to exercise their critical faculties. Maybe there is hope; we simply need to teach people to think for themselves about stuff. Mmm, but what would those who depend on us to depend on them, like for instance religious and political leaders, do though?

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26. Comment #64624 by stuartM02 on August 21, 2007 at 3:26 am

J42Lewis :

(http://www.newstarget.com/z001951.html) - that has to be one of the most dishonest things I have ever read.

Where are all the references for a start.

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27. Comment #64628 by irate_atheist on August 21, 2007 at 3:43 am

 avatarJ42Lewis:

Superb link -

"It's all quite real -- water takes on a different molecular structure when it is prayed over versus when angry people shout at it."

Classic, absolutely classic.

Laugh - I nearly shat myself.

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28. Comment #64788 by mikethebike on August 21, 2007 at 9:44 pm

 avatarRe: Comment #64318 by phil rimmer

Phil, what a great story! I'm just glad you didn't decide to found a religion, because I suspect you'd do just as well at it, and lord knows (pun intended) we don't need another wacko religion (or any of them for that matter).

I really like the "age of endarkenment" header on this article. It will become one of my favorites, I think.

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29. Comment #64790 by tinneduir on August 21, 2007 at 10:17 pm

Until a few years ago, I worked with the Probation Service's Education & Training Section. Along with Citizenship, we ran sessions in Critical Thinking. The general population may be short of the nous to see what's what, but we have some of the most rational criminals in the world!

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30. Comment #64817 by rokort on August 22, 2007 at 1:31 am

 avatar@ stuartM02 (Comment #64624)

The paper can be found here: http://www.springerlink.com/blabla
And an accompanying Editorial here: http://www.springerlink.com/content/blablabla

Transcript from the Editorial:
However, in the following paper it can be seen that the group has now expanded to include some eminent histaminologists not previously known for their work on high dilutions. They have approached the problem in several ways. Firstly by performing a multi-centre European trial which showed that there was a small but statistically significant inhibition of basophil activation with high dilutions of histamine. Those data had been based on manual counting of stained basophils and could therefore have been subject to observer bias. A flow cytometric protocol was then employed in 3 of the participating laboratories. Again high dilutions of histamine inhibited basophil degranulation. Thus their findings indicate that high dilutions may indeed have a biological effect. The authors are unable to explain their findings but wished to encourage others to investigate this area. It is with this spirit of openness that the journal, after submitting the paper to a rigorous reviewing process, has agreed to publish the paper.

Since i'm at a research institute i can download these papers, but am not sure anybody can. If you (or anybody for that matter) is really interested send me a PM and i can forward you the PDFs.

The lack of critique towards the 'evidence' that Homeopathy works plus ignoring the counter-evidence tells me that Mike Adams, who wrote the article j42lewis mentioned in Comment #64501, needs at least some introductory course in how to recognize true from false plus on how to let go of wishful thinking. And with him many i'm afraid.

I'm all for having the possibility to make heard unusual theories or out-of-this-world type claims regarding the natural world but we have to stay very, very skeptical. Otherwise you keep getting these claims by pseudoscience dressed up as real science and people will keep continuing claiming things that will only inflame the integrity of science and might lead to confusion among the layman. Part of making clear how science works is vigorously unmasking peudoscience, and of course praise again to RD and others for doing that.

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