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3. Comment #64711 by tieInterceptor on August 21, 2007 at 12:27 pm
4. Comment #64745 by RickM on August 21, 2007 at 3:31 pm
5. Comment #64754 by Nails on August 21, 2007 at 4:30 pm
6. Comment #64756 by tieInterceptor on August 21, 2007 at 4:37 pm
7. Comment #64758 by MrEmpirical on August 21, 2007 at 5:05 pm
"These very exquisitely adapted bodies we have represent a role of the dice," Dr. Thornton said. "And they could have turned out very differently."8. Comment #64769 by neander on August 21, 2007 at 6:13 pm
9. Comment #64772 by sane1 on August 21, 2007 at 7:07 pm
10. Comment #64774 by bladeScythe on August 21, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Mr Empirical11. Comment #64783 by roach on August 21, 2007 at 8:57 pm
MrEmpirical,12. Comment #64792 by MrEmpirical on August 21, 2007 at 10:26 pm
I've just finished reading Shermer's "How We Believe: The Search For God in an Age of Science", and the final chapter discusses Gould's views of evolution in a fair amount of detail. Shermer presents a number of quotes from Dennett, which demonstrate Dennett's willingness to create straw-men and to utterly misrepresent Gould's views in an attempt to argue that humans (or at least humanoid organisms) were an inevitable result of evolution. I'm not sure whether Dennett has since abandoned his anthropocentric view of human evolution, but, at the time of Shermer's writing, Dennett was arguing for the necessity of the evolution of humans (assuming I can rely upon Shermer's quotes, and I have always found Shermer's scholarship to be sound).13. Comment #64793 by MrEmpirical on August 21, 2007 at 10:26 pm
I suppose the best way of summing it up is like this:14. Comment #64799 by roach on August 21, 2007 at 11:23 pm
MrEmpirical said:15. Comment #64807 by hungarianelephant on August 22, 2007 at 12:06 am
16. Comment #64809 by pewkatchoo on August 22, 2007 at 12:19 am
17. Comment #64827 by tieInterceptor on August 22, 2007 at 2:14 am
18. Comment #64918 by OrbitalMike on August 22, 2007 at 11:27 am
19. Comment #65327 by MrEmpirical on August 23, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Well, from the sound of it, Dennett has reformed his views of evolution. But you should still check out 'How We Believe', because Shermer places quotes from Dennett side-by-side with quotes from Gould, and the pwnage is evident.20. Comment #65368 by magetoo on August 23, 2007 at 11:49 pm
tieInterceptor:btw, can anyone point me to an article here we had a few weeks back about evolution tests done in fish, they where on natural water spring , and the scientist separated some fish into springs with no predators, and others with...
I found the anecdote about the fish on the pond experiment explained to a random guy on a plane, and he gets all exited about it just to learn that is part of evolution theory...
1. Comment #64700 by notsobad on August 21, 2007 at 11:26 am
Now watch creationists take the "aspects of evolution do occur solely by chance" part only and twist it in their favour.
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