Review of Richard Dawkins' new book 'The Fascism Delusion'2. Comment #69013 by Student Grant on September 9, 2007 at 1:44 pm
3. Comment #69014 by BicycleRepairMan on September 9, 2007 at 1:47 pm
.. the occasional bad consequences of Fascism
4. Comment #69016 by Northern Bright on September 9, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Not even the junior Nazi Party secretary who first introduced me to Fascism believed that! ...
5. Comment #69018 by Michael P. on September 9, 2007 at 1:54 pm
from World Net Daily's The Rise of Anti-Facist America:6. Comment #69023 by Crapsquire on September 9, 2007 at 2:06 pm
7. Comment #69024 by jaytee_555 on September 9, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Brilliantly funny and seriously penetrating. It is regretable that a weakness in appreciating irony so often goes with religious belief.8. Comment #69029 by ksskidude on September 9, 2007 at 2:32 pm
9. Comment #69030 by automath on September 9, 2007 at 2:35 pm
10. Comment #69032 by pewkatchoo on September 9, 2007 at 2:44 pm
11. Comment #69033 by 3ddm on September 9, 2007 at 2:46 pm
12. Comment #69034 by mdowe on September 9, 2007 at 2:49 pm
13. Comment #69035 by J. J. Ramsey on September 9, 2007 at 3:11 pm
I'll ask the same question here as I did on the Valve: which brand of fascism is supposed to be analogous to Reform Judaism? Which brand is analogous to, say, the Episcopalian Church? Or Buddhism? Or Jainism?14. Comment #69036 by Dr Benway on September 9, 2007 at 3:18 pm
...which brand of fascism is supposed to be analogous to Reform Judaism? Which brand is analogous to, say, the Episcopalian Church? Or Buddhism? Or Jainism?Some say a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle...but what sort of man is like a Trek? a Schwinn? a Motobécane?
The Blue Nude, Le Luxe, II and Goldfish and Sculpture were chosen by students at Chicago's Art Student's League as the most appalling and blasphemous pictures in the exhibition. The charges brought against him were "artistic murder, pictorial arson, artistic rapine, total degeneracy of color, criminal misuse of line, general aesthetic abberation, and contumacious abuse of title." Further illustrating the contempt audiences had for Matisse is William Zorach's later recollection of the reaction to Le Luxe, II in New York: "Matisse's paintings seem to bother people most -especially one of a woman with only four toes."Funny, isn't it, how things change. Matisse is entirely compatible with middle-brow taste today.
Matisse reportedly was so troubled by the public's reaction to his work that he implored in an interview, "Oh do tell the American people that I am a normal man; that I am a devoted husband and father, that I have three fine children, that I go to the theatre!" While Matisse maintained aspirations to bourgeois gentility, his work was seen by some as an attack on the progress of Western civilization as a whole.
15. Comment #69037 by Jack Rawlinson on September 9, 2007 at 3:20 pm
16. Comment #69040 by J. J. Ramsey on September 9, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Dr. Benway: "Funny, isn't it, how things change. Matisse is entirely compatible with middle-brow taste today."17. Comment #69042 by dancingthemantaray on September 9, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Because, of course, for most people fascism isn't just men with odd mustaches barking policies at rallies, no one really believes in over medaled leaders dictating bizarre laws, fascism is love...18. Comment #69044 by J. J. Ramsey on September 9, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Jack Rawlinson: "I hope RD sees this. I think he'll appreciate it."19. Comment #69047 by Dr Benway on September 9, 2007 at 3:36 pm
You dodged the question: which brand of fascism is supposed to be analogous to Reform Judaism, etc.?You dodged the question: what sort of man is like a Schwinn?
20. Comment #69055 by AntonAAK on September 9, 2007 at 3:54 pm
J J Ramsey
I'll ask the same question here as I did on the Valve: which brand of fascism is supposed to be analogous to Reform Judaism? Which brand is analogous to, say, the Episcopalian Church? Or Buddhism? Or Jainism?
21. Comment #69056 by skyhook87 on September 9, 2007 at 3:54 pm
22. Comment #69057 by pewkatchoo on September 9, 2007 at 3:57 pm
23. Comment #69058 by jaytee_555 on September 9, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Pewkatchoo says it's satire, not irony. Well, perhaps - but Wiki says:24. Comment #69060 by Crapsquire on September 9, 2007 at 4:03 pm
25. Comment #69062 by Crapsquire on September 9, 2007 at 4:10 pm
26. Comment #69064 by robotaholic on September 9, 2007 at 4:14 pm
27. Comment #69067 by ? on September 9, 2007 at 4:22 pm
28. Comment #69076 by J. J. Ramsey on September 9, 2007 at 4:43 pm
AntonAAK: "Er.. I think you might have missed the point just a tad."29. Comment #69081 by Wosret on September 9, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Nothing better than a brilliant argumentum reductio ad absurdum. Very nicely done, and a hilarious read. 30. Comment #69096 by Bookman on September 9, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Parody, thy name is J.J. Ramsey.31. Comment #69098 by J. J. Ramsey on September 9, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Dr. Benway: "You dodged the question: what sort of man is like a Schwinn?"32. Comment #69105 by Lightbulb on September 9, 2007 at 5:52 pm
33. Comment #69114 by J. J. Ramsey on September 9, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Lightbulb: "It was probably not meant to compare religion and fascism except so far as to say that neither are healthy."34. Comment #69131 by chuckgoecke on September 9, 2007 at 6:50 pm
35. Comment #69141 by Teratornis on September 9, 2007 at 7:13 pm
23. Comment #69058 by jaytee_555 on September 9, 2007 at 3:58 pm
[...] but Wiki says:
36. Comment #69145 by Dr Benway on September 9, 2007 at 7:23 pm
37. Comment #69147 by prettygoodformonkeys on September 9, 2007 at 7:31 pm
38. Comment #69148 by Lightbulb on September 9, 2007 at 7:33 pm
39. Comment #69153 by maton100 on September 9, 2007 at 7:49 pm
40. Comment #69160 by Lauregon on September 9, 2007 at 8:17 pm
JJ Ramsey, please try an application of some oil of lavender. You seem unduly wound up, and I've heard it's very soothing. ;)41. Comment #69173 by bouwe on September 9, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I would love to read more of the curmudgeon, however the red text on grey background makes my eyes hurt. A simple change of format would make me a regular peruser of his posts. I would be wincing with laughter instead of wincing just to read it. Through strained eyes, it is truly hilarious.42. Comment #69176 by bouwe on September 9, 2007 at 9:41 pm
Sorry, I was responding to 39. Comment #69153 by maton100, not the above article. Back to topic....43. Comment #69179 by Russell Blackford on September 9, 2007 at 10:25 pm
The point is that people who run arguments like this are assuming that the phenomenon in question is fundamentally benign. It is very difficult to say that with a straight face about religion. The best that can be said for it is that much of it - though by no means all, or even most - has evolved into relatively benign modern variants.44. Comment #69181 by Eric Blair on September 9, 2007 at 10:52 pm
This is cute and exquisitely carried off. It is of course satire, but could be seen also as irony (in its entirety) in that its true intended criticism is the opposite -- or something dramatically different -- from what it literally addresses.45. Comment #69183 by BAEOZ on September 9, 2007 at 11:01 pm
46. Comment #69185 by atp on September 9, 2007 at 11:13 pm
Ramsey: «The parody only works if the analogy between religion and fascism is close enough.»47. Comment #69189 by Et in Arcadia ego on September 9, 2007 at 11:47 pm
"I'll ask the same question here as I did on the Valve: which brand of fascism is supposed to be analogous to Reform Judaism?"48. Comment #69194 by Atticus_of_Amber on September 10, 2007 at 12:47 am
49. Comment #69198 by Prufrock on September 10, 2007 at 1:27 am
"Humor is the only ammunition we really need against willful ignorance."50. Comment #69199 by pewkatchoo on September 10, 2007 at 1:43 am
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1. Comment #69012 by epeeist on September 9, 2007 at 1:40 pm
Very funny though
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