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Thursday, September 13, 2007 | Science : Astronomy | print version Print | Comments

Document Scientists' Good News: Earth May Survive Sun's Demise in 5 Billion Years

by Dennis Overbye

Reposted from:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/13/science/13planet.html?ref=science

There is new hope that Earth, if not the life on it, might survive an apocalypse five billion years from now.

That is when, scientists say, the Sun will run out of hydrogen fuel and swell temporarily more than 100 times in diameter into a so-called red giant, swallowing Mercury and Venus.

Astronomers are announcing that they have discovered a planet that seems to have survived the puffing up of its home star, suggesting there is some hope that Earth could survive the aging and swelling of the Sun.

The planet is a gas giant at least three times as massive as Jupiter. It orbits about 150 million miles from a faint star in Pegasus known as V 391 Pegasi. But before that star blew up as a red giant and lost half its mass, the planet must have been about as far from its star as Earth is from the Sun — about 90 million miles — according to calculations by an international team of astronomers led by Roberto Silvotti of the Observatorio Astronomico di Capodimonte in Naples, Italy.

Dr. Silvotti said the results showed that a planet at Earth's distance "can survive" a red giant, and he said he hoped the discovery would prompt more searches.

"With some statistics and new detailed models, we will be able to say something more even to the destiny of our Earth (which, as we all know, has much more urgent problems by the way)," he said via e-mail.

Dr. Silvotti and his colleagues reported their results today in Nature.

In an accompanying commentary, Jonathan Fortney of NASA's Ames Research Center in California wrote, "This system allows us to start examining what will happen to planets around stars such as our own Sun as they too evolve and grow old."

The star V 391 Pegasi is about 4,500 light years from Earth and is about half as massive as the Sun, burning helium into carbon. It will eventually sigh off another shell of gas and settle into eternal senescence as a white dwarf.

Meanwhile, the star's pulsations cause it to brighten and dim every six minutes. After studying the star for seven years, Dr. Silvotti and his colleagues were able to discern subtle modulations in the six-minute cycle, suggesting that the star was being tugged to and fro over a three-year period by a massive planet.

"Essentially, the observers are using the star as a clock, as if it were a G.P.S. satellite moving around the planet," said Fred Rasio of Northwestern University, who was not involved in the research.

This is not the first time that a pulsing star has been used as such a clock. In 1992, astronomers using the same technique detected a pair of planets (or their corpses) circling the pulsar PSR1257+12. And only yesterday, X-ray astronomers from the Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology announced that they had detected the remains of a star that radiation had whittled down to planetary mass circling a pulsar in the constellation Sagittarius. Those systems have probably endured supernova explosions.

The Pegasus planet has had to survive less lethal conditions, although it must have had a bumpy ride over its estimated 10 billion years of existence. Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of Washington said, "Stellar evolution can be a wild ride for a planet that is trying to survive, especially inner planets like Earth."

When our own Sun begins to graduate from a hydrogen-burning main sequence star to a red giant, two effects will compete, the astronomers said. As the Sun blows off mass to conserve angular momentum, Earth will retreat to a more distant, safer orbit. At the same time, tidal forces between Earth and the expanding star will try to drag the planet inward, where it could be engulfed. The latter effect, in particular, is difficult to compute.

As a result, Mario Livio of the Space Telescope Science Institute said of the inner planets, "Earth's fate is actually the most uncertain because it is at the border line between being engulfed and surviving."

A particularly dangerous time for Earth, Dr. Silvotti said, would be at the end of the red giant phase when the Sun's helium ignites in an explosive flash. In the case of V 391 Pegasi, that explosion sent a large fraction of the star's mass flying outward.

"This is another reason why the survival of a planet in a relatively close orbit is not trivial," he said.

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1. Comment #69945 by bamafreethinker on September 13, 2007 at 9:25 am

(which, as we all know, has much more urgent problems by the way)

I hope this is just a side project and not what some of the best minds in science spend the bulk of their time on...

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2. Comment #69947 by sane1 on September 13, 2007 at 9:38 am

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"Stellar evolution can be a wild ride for a planet that is trying to survive, especially inner planets like Earth."


Trying to survive??? Is that what planets are doing???

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3. Comment #69952 by DNAtheist on September 13, 2007 at 10:07 am

 avatarSane1, I had exactly the same reaction.

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4. Comment #69957 by pewkatchoo on September 13, 2007 at 10:27 am

 avatarWow, that's great news. I was really worried about this. Now I can sleep easy at night again.

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5. Comment #69961 by konquererz on September 13, 2007 at 10:41 am

 avatarI personally don't think humanity will be around here to care in 5 billion years. After all, that would be much much longer than any other species that had ever lived on this planet.

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6. Comment #69965 by doodinthemood on September 13, 2007 at 11:51 am

I guess I'm the first poster who found the small crumb of science behind this buttered up writing quite interesting. How did a planet survive the expansion?

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7. Comment #69970 by bamafreethinker on September 13, 2007 at 12:18 pm

The likelihood of a planet "surviving" such an event is probably so small that; when you apply the odds to one particular planet (i.e. earth), the chances are probably greater that a particular god exists! The scientists seem to be looking at it backwards to me. Sure the earth could survive, but then again the FSM could exist.

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8. Comment #69982 by Kakashi_monkey on September 13, 2007 at 1:36 pm

 avatarI remember seeing on Nova how humankind will leave Earth in spaceships and live on Mars and Europa when the Earth is engulfed. Even if it isn't, humans will still colonize those planets. Who knows, the Earth may survive but be too roasted to live on! Things such as this are difficult to guarantee a course of action on. But in 5 billion years, we'll see!

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9. Comment #69988 by monkey2 on September 13, 2007 at 2:03 pm

 avatarOh [rapturous] day! Callooh! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.

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10. Comment #70019 by mdowe on September 13, 2007 at 4:59 pm

 avatarThe Earth will become uninhabitable long before the Sun becomes a red giant -- the Sun is getting hotter over time and so will the Earth. But it seems ludicrously unlikely to me that humans (as such) will be around in even a billion years to care. Hell, it seems unlikely we will even be the preeminent intelligence on the planet in 150 years (I expect intelligent computers will have long overtaken us by then ... probably much sooner.)

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11. Comment #70027 by HeathenAngel on September 13, 2007 at 5:54 pm

 avatarSorry, everyone.. but as I read the article and most of the replies... all I could think of was this:

Zager And Evans - In The Year 2525

In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find

In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you

In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube

In the year 7510
If God's a-coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
"Guess it's time for the judgment day"

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say "I'm pleased where man has been"
Or tear it down, and start again

In the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothing

Now it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew
Now man's reign is through

But through eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away

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12. Comment #70187 by Luthien on September 14, 2007 at 9:31 am

 avatarWhat, is it national cynic day today, or did they cancel "dress down friday"??? Come on ppl!

Some people have to think far ahead, like Kepler's story about traveling to the moon and standing on the surface. It is these things that keep the human race looking forward. I enjoyed this article for the same reasons I loved all the various star trek series; it frees the mind from the chains of the present.

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13. Comment #70201 by bluebird on September 14, 2007 at 10:16 am

 avatarLuthien, thanks for mentioning the book Kepler's 'Dream'. Hadn't heard of it~~will add it to our library :)

This reminds me of the classic silent movie 'Le Voyage dans la Lune'...
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Voyage_dans_la_Lune
It's only 12 minutes long [quality, not quantity] and it can be viewed on YouTube.

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14. Comment #70639 by The Schuermannator on September 16, 2007 at 12:20 pm

 avatarI've always imagined that a "scientific heaven" is possible if we can survive long enough to reach it. I feel that what we fear most as humans is the loss of consciousness...

Just imagine a highly "evolved" species able to encapsulate their conscience beyond something that of a machine. I like to imagine the ultimate existence as a beam of light zipping from star to star and galaxy to galaxy exploring, so long as I avoid getting nailed by a black hole!

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15. Comment #99517 by zebraone on December 17, 2007 at 12:43 am

I, for one, enjoyed this article. Granted it was 'dumbed down' for the masses, but it illustrated one of the great benefits that science offers; a window into the un-seeable. The goal of science is basic understanding. Technology is merely a byproduct of that understanding. While this story gives me no practical insight into my daily life, it does allow me to see a future that my mortality prohibits me from viewing.

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