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3. Comment #72124 by home8896 on September 20, 2007 at 11:49 am
4. Comment #72129 by HumanisticJones on September 20, 2007 at 11:59 am
Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology.
5. Comment #72131 by A.Lex on September 20, 2007 at 12:04 pm
..."it is no bad thing regularly to be reminded that all images of God fall far short of the reality encountered and witnessed to by Moses and the prophets, and by Jesus and the apostles."6. Comment #72132 by scottishgeologist on September 20, 2007 at 12:05 pm
7. Comment #72136 by steve99 on September 20, 2007 at 12:11 pm
The alternative, the non-golden-calf route, is to sit light to definitions, hypotheses and images, and allow God to be God.
8. Comment #72146 by MartinSGill on September 20, 2007 at 12:34 pm
9. Comment #72147 by Negasta on September 20, 2007 at 12:35 pm
I would guess most if not all past and present members of Sunday Schools and the like have sung, 'He's got the whole world in his hands'
10. Comment #72149 by pewkatchoo on September 20, 2007 at 12:37 pm
11. Comment #72151 by Mango on September 20, 2007 at 12:40 pm
12. Comment #72153 by Bruno on September 20, 2007 at 12:42 pm
"Let's face it, it is easier for most of us to hold a clear but inaccurate image of what we think God is, rather than to live with the discomfort of not being able to pin God down precisely."13. Comment #72155 by BAEOZ on September 20, 2007 at 12:44 pm
14. Comment #72156 by Klaatu barada nikto on September 20, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Challenges to our image of God is not new.
15. Comment #72163 by ksskidude on September 20, 2007 at 1:05 pm
16. Comment #72164 by dbunker on September 20, 2007 at 1:06 pm
Having accused Dawkins of inventing a "straw" god, the author can't begin to fashion one even that substantial.17. Comment #72169 by PrimeNumbers on September 20, 2007 at 1:24 pm
18. Comment #72173 by Janus on September 20, 2007 at 1:35 pm
19. Comment #72174 by aitchkay on September 20, 2007 at 1:36 pm
20. Comment #72184 by troodon on September 20, 2007 at 1:51 pm
My eyes glazed over about halfway through, but I think it went something like this:21. Comment #72191 by jimbob on September 20, 2007 at 2:00 pm
I don't where I saw this acronym (not my original idea), but perhaps we should lump all gods under the term "PESTS" (Putative Extraterrestrial Supernatural Things).22. Comment #72197 by antialiasis on September 20, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Am I the only person who actually thinks this guy is making a great point?23. Comment #72198 by Johan on September 20, 2007 at 2:10 pm
"What Dawkins demolishes in this book may well be a misrepresentation of God, but it is a misrepresentation, an idol, that we Christians all too have often set up and espoused as the real thing."24. Comment #72203 by Mr DArcy on September 20, 2007 at 2:19 pm
the biblical understanding of God as both immanent and transcendent – God dwelling within all things, but also greater than all things – and of God as a living presence.
25. Comment #72208 by CambrianExplosion on September 20, 2007 at 2:26 pm
26. Comment #72215 by GBile on September 20, 2007 at 2:34 pm
27. Comment #72219 by shaunfletcher on September 20, 2007 at 2:40 pm
28. Comment #72226 by steve99 on September 20, 2007 at 2:45 pm
By majority I mean 99.99 percent or thereabouts.
29. Comment #72229 by shaunfletcher on September 20, 2007 at 2:50 pm
30. Comment #72232 by drive1 on September 20, 2007 at 2:52 pm
31. Comment #72235 by LoneStarTravis on September 20, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Mr. Skinner has answered Dawkins' recent question: Yes, you must apparently be fully educated in leprechology before disbelieving in leprechauns.32. Comment #72238 by Quine on September 20, 2007 at 2:57 pm
33. Comment #72251 by Logicel on September 20, 2007 at 3:12 pm
34. Comment #72273 by Russell's Teapot on September 20, 2007 at 3:47 pm
"What Dawkins demolishes in this book may well be a misrepresentation of God, but it is a misrepresentation, an idol, that we Christians all too have often set up and espoused as the real thing."Um, correct me if I'm wrong here, but if Christians are representing this "misrepresentation" as the god they believe in, isn't that the damn god they believe in?! This article makes my brain hurt...
35. Comment #72288 by locri on September 20, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Every time I read something like this I really have to wonder: What the heck DOES it take to be considered "knowledgeable" enough to criticize religion?36. Comment #72295 by Theocrapcy on September 20, 2007 at 5:13 pm
37. Comment #72297 by superlucky20 on September 20, 2007 at 5:27 pm
"So, if our understanding of God can be encapsulated in a nice, neat definition; a nice, neat God hypothesis; a nice, neat image; a nice, neat set of instructions – if, in other words, our understanding of God does approximate to a Dawkins version, then we are in danger of creating another golden calf. The alternative, the non-golden-calf route, is to sit light to definitions, hypotheses and images, and allow God to be God."38. Comment #72298 by Jestyr on September 20, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Hmm, I almost liked this article. It seemed such a nice defence of a deist position, along the lines of God is something we can't understand or imagine but having him here is important. It's nice basic wooly thinking from people who want 'something up there' And skinner is right, it is hard to attack this god. Then he goes and ties it all down to moses and jesus in the bible, bringing it right back to the position that Dawkins, Hitchens et al have demolished again and again and again.39. Comment #72299 by Inferno on September 20, 2007 at 5:29 pm
the straw God that Dawkins sets up and then demolishes is often uncomfortably close to the notion of God that we Christians all too frequently seem to talk about, pray to and worship.
Philosophers and theologians over the centuries, grappling with what is meant by 'God'
40. Comment #72302 by Damien White on September 20, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Every time I hear the 'argument' that [insert atheist author here] should have read more theology, I always ask myself if the writers of said theology have access to more source material than me. Of course they don't. They read the bible to come to their conclusions. I read the bible and came to different conclusions. My conclusion was that it's extremely difficult to take the bible seriously given a) it's history, b) it's numerous factual errors, and c) it's internal contradictions.41. Comment #72309 by Inferno on September 20, 2007 at 5:52 pm
42. Comment #72331 by Cartomancer on September 20, 2007 at 6:47 pm
43. Comment #72336 by Satanburiedfossils on September 20, 2007 at 7:01 pm
44. Comment #72338 by Russell Blackford on September 20, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Funny, when I read some of these nice moderates like Richard Skinner, my main response isn't that I think they are correct (I don't think that) but that I warm to them. I'd probably enjoy talking to Skinner over a beer.45. Comment #72339 by PeterK on September 20, 2007 at 7:04 pm
If I could talk with Richard Skinner face to face:46. Comment #72341 by sabre_truth on September 20, 2007 at 7:08 pm
These moderate theologians basically believe what I believe, up to a point: we only understand parts of the cosmos; the whole is beyond our present ability to grasp in precise terms, and it may very well forever remain so. But it is still a leap to identify that ineffable reality that lies beyond the bounds of our finite experience expressible within the limits of our language with the God spoken of in the Bible. It is an even greater leap (and evident absurdity) to put stock in any claimed knowledge of its "will", based on this particular cultural artifact.47. Comment #72343 by NoLongerHaveBelief on September 20, 2007 at 7:18 pm
Interesting points, Sabre-tooth.48. Comment #72349 by notsobad on September 20, 2007 at 7:31 pm
49. Comment #72358 by mmurray on September 20, 2007 at 8:05 pm
50. Comment #72360 by Goldy on September 20, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology
1. Comment #72118 by elfinabout on September 20, 2007 at 11:37 am
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