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3. Comment #82845 by gaving on October 28, 2007 at 2:46 am
This is so sad.4. Comment #82847 by TQY on October 28, 2007 at 2:49 am
"At a recent conference on teacher training, a teacher said: 'I am disappointed about the fact that evolution attacks God's creation. It also mixes Genesis with idol worshippers of Babylon, which were never there when God created planet Earth.' "5. Comment #82850 by windweaver on October 28, 2007 at 2:59 am
6. Comment #82852 by jeremynel on October 28, 2007 at 3:17 am
As a South African, I have very much mixed feelings about the article.7. Comment #82858 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on October 28, 2007 at 3:36 am
8. Comment #82859 by monoape on October 28, 2007 at 3:38 am
9. Comment #82862 by drive1 on October 28, 2007 at 4:28 am
Teachers of evolution will need to be well trained.
10. Comment #82863 by Matt7895 on October 28, 2007 at 4:29 am
"Evolution, which will be offered as part of life sciences under the new grade 10 to 12 curriculum by public and private schools, is rated highly by education experts because they believe it teaches learners to think critically and analytically."11. Comment #82867 by Eamonn Shute on October 28, 2007 at 4:35 am
12. Comment #82871 by phasmagigas on October 28, 2007 at 4:57 am
Matters came to a head after snippets of a video, Tiny Humans: Finding Hobbits in Flores, was shown. The video traces the origin of tiny prehistoric humans somewhere on an Indonesian island. They are depicted as short and dark-skinned people. This offended some black teachers. They said that evolution was a racist theory. It "terribly undermines black people, everything bad gets a black colour. It means blacks were apes," they said.
13. Comment #82872 by Shaker on October 28, 2007 at 5:01 am
14. Comment #82883 by Corylus on October 28, 2007 at 5:56 am
They are depicted as short and dark-skinned people. This offended some black teachers. They said that evolution was a racist theory. It "terribly undermines black people, everything bad gets a black colour. It means blacks were apes," they said.I see. By that analysis the article below is a dreadful example of "ginger prejudice"
15. Comment #82884 by alexmzk on October 28, 2007 at 5:59 am
"The video traces the origin of tiny prehistoric humans somewhere on an Indonesian island. They are depicted as short and dark-skinned people. This offended some black teachers. They said that evolution was a racist theory. It "terribly undermines black people, everything bad gets a black colour. It means blacks were apes," they said."16. Comment #82900 by Greybishop on October 28, 2007 at 7:56 am
In the United States a group of Christian parents instituted legal action in 2005 to challenge the implementation of teaching evolution at schools because they felt it undermined their notion of God.
17. Comment #82907 by NJS on October 28, 2007 at 8:18 am
Its sad that South Africa has in many ways lived up to warnings of the pro-apartheid idiots who predicted what would happen. I think many African countries suffer from having been ruled for too long and the new "owners" not knowing how its really done. Sorry if I sound patronising.18. Comment #82925 by js5535 on October 28, 2007 at 9:25 am
"This offended some black teachers. They said that evolution was a racist theory. It "terribly undermines black people, everything bad gets a black colour. It means blacks were apes," they said."19. Comment #82936 by ridelo on October 28, 2007 at 9:55 am
Any animal that evolved under lavish sunshine is in some way protected against it. Being black is one way to do it. Nothing to be proud or ashamed of.20. Comment #82965 by The Schuermannator on October 28, 2007 at 11:18 am
21. Comment #82973 by THEEVANGELIST on October 28, 2007 at 11:55 am
As an African, I can vouch for some the sentiments expressed in the Guardian article. I was born and spent the first two decades of my life in Cameroon, a country with a fast growing christian fundamentalist population. All my parents and siblings but one would describe themselves as biblical literalists, and thus creationists. I have relations and close Cameroonian friend, who although are in the most rational of professions (doctors, scientists and engineers) are totally unpersuaded by the evidence of evolution largely for religious reasons.22. Comment #82974 by NJS on October 28, 2007 at 12:04 pm
From what THEEVANGELIST says I have another worry. Our close relationship to the great African apes can provide a compelling argument for their protection. If so many African people reject that relationship out of hand then I fear for their existence.23. Comment #82984 by Logicel on October 28, 2007 at 12:32 pm
24. Comment #82988 by The Schuermannator on October 28, 2007 at 12:47 pm
25. Comment #82998 by Logicel on October 28, 2007 at 1:28 pm
26. Comment #83002 by Logicel on October 28, 2007 at 1:38 pm
27. Comment #83020 by Mr DArcy on October 28, 2007 at 2:54 pm
28. Comment #83033 by Matt7895 on October 28, 2007 at 4:29 pm
These people need to get it into their heads that black people ARE apes, just like every other human on this Earth!29. Comment #83067 by Vadjong on October 28, 2007 at 8:03 pm
This offended some black teachers. They said that evolution was a racist theory.
30. Comment #83109 by Jonathan Dore on October 29, 2007 at 1:18 am
Part of the problem seems to be that evolution is considered to be something taught to those in late teenage years just before they leave high school. They wouldn't encounter so much resistance if they started teaching it to 5 year olds.31. Comment #83114 by logical on October 29, 2007 at 1:55 am
32. Comment #83139 by bluebird on October 29, 2007 at 3:57 am
33. Comment #83151 by Vaal on October 29, 2007 at 4:53 am
34. Comment #83163 by wandapec on October 29, 2007 at 5:57 am
Comment #82845 by gaving on October 28, 2007 at 2:46 amYou got it so spot on!
This is so sad.
Comment #82872 by Shaker on October 28, 2007 at 5:01 am
""I am totally against evolution," another teacher said."
"I am also strongly against gravity and the germ theory of disease," replied another.
OK, I made up the second quote - but it amounts to exactly the same thing.
Comment #82850 by windweaver on October 28, 2007 at 2:59 am
When I visited South Africa, I was struck by the large number of Christian fundamentalists-especially among the Afrikaner population.
35. Comment #83173 by Ford Prefect on October 29, 2007 at 6:46 am
Matters came to a head after snippets of a video, Tiny Humans: Finding Hobbits in Flores, was shown. The video traces the origin of tiny prehistoric humans somewhere on an Indonesian island. They are depicted as short and dark-skinned people. This offended some black teachers. They said that evolution was a racist theory. It "terribly undermines black people, everything bad gets a black colour. It means blacks were apes," they said.36. Comment #83200 by Nick Good on October 29, 2007 at 9:07 am
37. Comment #83203 by konquererz on October 29, 2007 at 9:12 am
38. Comment #83209 by NJS on October 29, 2007 at 9:24 am
Another thought:39. Comment #83219 by THEEVANGELIST on October 29, 2007 at 10:08 am
The African christian mindset is a very dichotomous one. The african christain sees the Judeo-christian mythology (ie christianity)as a enlightened concrete reality as opposed to the indigeneous native religions which they classify as pure superstitions and therefore part of the satanic realm. African native religions are still very much embedded into the mindset of the people despite many century of exposure to the Abrahamic religions. For me, this is easily explained; all forms of religions satisfy the same human emotions of fear, hope and quest for the un-explained.40. Comment #83228 by Mat on October 29, 2007 at 11:09 am
I live in South Africa at the moment, and can certainly confirm that full-on, no-thought-required, Christian fundamentalism is alive and well. My well-educated South African colleagues (of all skin colours, incidentally...) all subscribe to some form of theistic belief system. The only real question you can ask is not whether they believe in God, but how much they believe in their particular God. I certainly haven't paraded my lack of belief or challenged them in theirs, but it is scary that so many people here (of all skin colours) hew so closely to a philosophy and mindset that actively requires that they do no use critical thinking in any way. And in a way I find it almost personally insulting that South Africa can have some of the most amazing proto-human remains and yet people wilfully ignore this breathtaking, awesome knowledge. SA has a lot of problems at the moment - and I guarantee that they will NOT be solved by theology...41. Comment #83349 by HappyPrimate on October 29, 2007 at 6:38 pm
42. Comment #84045 by bluntdissector on November 1, 2007 at 4:17 am
I am just happy it's being taught.
1. Comment #82839 by Eamonn Shute on October 28, 2007 at 2:27 am
WTF!!!!!!!!!
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