Surviving 'Jesus Camp'
"Raise your hand if you think that God can do anything!"
Then comes the guilt, and mountains of it. "A lot of you say you're Christians, but how many of you are leading two separate lives?" Pastor Becky lays it on thick over the PA. She leads the children on through ideas of what they might be sinfully doing at school with their friends, and how they should be ashamed of themselves for it. I considered vomiting into my drink cup. She asks the children to gather around her and reach out their hands if they wish to be cleansed of these newly uncovered sins. Their cleansing source: A 20 oz. bottle of Nestlé-brand water poured over their grouped hands. Talk about product placement! There is of course more crying. There is more of me yelling at the screen, and more of my friend elbowing me in embarrassment.
A 'Pro-Life' speaker visits the camp and explains how "God doesn't care about how small the baby is, it is still a person and a soul, even if it's just protoplasm..." he pauses to pan the young crowd with a cartoon-ish, bug-eyed smile before delivering his punch line: "...whatever that is!" Some in the theatre laughed, and some screamed. Things had become so unbelievable that the audience was just making whatever sounds were possible in their collective state of shock. The 'Pro-Life' man passed around a boxed set of plastic fetuses at different stages of development (do they sell these at Christian Supply stores?!). He then placed red gaffe tape with the word 'LIFE' written on it over each child's mouth in preparation for their protest in front of the US Capitol Building. I had to step back for a second. They are placing gaffe tape over a child's mouth, and the child is then persuaded to interpret this as a positive, meaningful experience. 'Let the church decide what goes in place of my personal thoughts and voice.' It's a sad metaphor for how these children are kept from thinking for themselves, and a sad irony how their 'LIFE', the only one they'll ever have, is truly what they are missing out on by accepting these dogmatic restrictions.
The film even makes a quick visit to Ted Haggard's New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, just in case you were able to keep your lunch down this far into the film. In his sequel appearance to 'The Root of All Evil?' Ted is as creepy as ever, speaking directly to the camera as they attempt to film one of his mega-sermons. "If you try and use any of this I'll sue you!" he says perhaps half-jokingly, followed by an expected laugh from his flock. Ted even gets in his little sound byte about some people 'calling children animals.' He yelled this same phrase at Dawkins and his film crew in 'The Root of All Evil?' while chasing them away from the church in his pickup truck, and I wondered how frequently he replays that confrontation over in his mind.3. Comment #589 by Jonathan on October 4, 2006 at 11:32 am
I am a Christian...5. Comment #597 by Sarah on October 4, 2006 at 12:43 pm
I was a Christian, reborn and the whole tootie I’m not proud of it I’m more appalled than anything else its horrific how they brain wash and bible punch. I was also a kid in many of these types of camps for many, many years I believed this was the way till I reasoned with myself and found it all to be a terrible hoax. I do believe Jesus existed so did Mohamed, Buddha and Darwin. But education and level headedness showed me a different view I also read this on Reddit written by someone who had logic and proof:6. Comment #599 by Jonathan on October 4, 2006 at 1:02 pm
Sarah - just copied and pasted from Wiki -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible8. Comment #601 by Sarah on October 4, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Thanks Trevor,9. Comment #604 by Jonathan on October 4, 2006 at 1:44 pm
Sarah -10. Comment #608 by Sarah on October 4, 2006 at 2:12 pm
Thanks for clearing that up Jonathan.12. Comment #610 by Brian on October 4, 2006 at 2:33 pm
Sarah,13. Comment #611 by Sarah on October 4, 2006 at 2:48 pm
Thanks Brian15. Comment #620 by Nathan on October 4, 2006 at 10:27 pm
MrFitz16. Comment #630 by Tom on October 5, 2006 at 6:05 am
The people in this camp do not represent all of Christianity. What they do represent is false doctrines in action. As a Christian, from what I've read of your account I agree with you on many points about what is being done with these children. The part about the tongues particularly sickens me.17. Comment #640 by Terry on October 5, 2006 at 10:31 am
I'm horrified at all this, it proves one thing to me. All Christians should be painted with the same brush. How can one say they are a Christian but not like the other Christians they are intrinsically the same.18. Comment #653 by Terry on October 5, 2006 at 3:13 pm
To Franklin20. Comment #658 by Anonymous on October 5, 2006 at 5:21 pm
Steven, of course you are wrong big time and your post smacks of incredible intolerance. Explain to me why does atheism, if it is just oh so benevolent like you pretend, has to constantly attack all theist beliefs?24. Comment #665 by Anonymous on October 5, 2006 at 6:36 pm
. Comment #612 by Trevor on October 4, 2006 at 2:52 pm25. Comment #686 by Anonymous on October 6, 2006 at 8:19 am
Steven wrote "because I feel these beliefs can cause people to do terrible things."26. Comment #699 by Anonymous on October 6, 2006 at 10:50 am
Just some more atheist propaganda. You atheists take the truth and twist it into a lie. Duh?!? Who is responsible for the flood? The people and their wickedness in their hearts. God (since then) is never responsible for any violent death. Duh?!? Ever hear of free will. God does not interfere if you want to go out and kill someone. You will pay for your crime one way or another. What goes around comes around. God can intervene with intercessory prayer. And does. You atheist Dawkins arse lickers are just so dumb, clueless and hateful. Know what you are talking about if you want to criticize Christianity. You just sound so ignorant with the things you write.27. Comment #748 by Jay on October 6, 2006 at 4:14 pm
I reckon in the great scheme of things religion has killed a million times more than atheism. Not that I can recall a mass murderer who has killed specifically in the name of atheism, but you get my point (I hope).28. Comment #749 by Anonymous on October 6, 2006 at 4:25 pm
Atheist cliche after cliche after cliche. All of those responses are so canned. Part of your programming. Won't spend the time right now in my response.29. Comment #750 by Jay on October 6, 2006 at 4:26 pm
"He's watching a "Creation Adventures" video for children, and with a commanding baritone voice it falsely instructs that the earth was formed 6,000 years ago by you-guessed-who. Thankfully, in my theatre this received a roaring round of laughter. The narrator makes a joke about how ‘some people say’ we came from ‘slime,’ and he puts on a ridiculous face as he holds up his two hands covered in a silly green goop."30. Comment #756 by Anonymous on October 6, 2006 at 5:36 pm
Your totally clueless. If God came down physically and spoke to everyone in a loud voice then guess what? Everyone would believe in God. You too. He'd be your sugardaddy!31. Comment #757 by Anonymous on October 6, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Your totally clueless. If God came down physically and spoke to everyone in a loud voice then guess what? Everyone would believe in God. You too. He'd be your sugardaddy!32. Comment #760 by Anonymous on October 6, 2006 at 6:09 pm
Go ahead and believe what you want to believe. Just shut up about what I believe. Stop your attack. If you had a real belief in something besides yourself then we would already know this. Learn respect. Or you are nothing but part of the problem instead of being part of the solution. This will always be a dog eat dog world to you with that level of understanding. .33. Comment #807 by Simmons on October 7, 2006 at 4:14 am
Damn, people! No one is saying that all Christians are fundamentalist or that all Christians would send their children to this camp. This article only contains the authors experience of a film that documents a single Christian summer camp. Thats all. It makes no assumptions on what Christian "moderates" would do to their children.35. Comment #1042 by Jason on October 9, 2006 at 4:06 am
I feel I must address the inaccuracies (some of them anyway) above. Firstly and most glaringly to suggest that atheism is ever decreasing is utter non-sense. Fundamentalism is strengthing in America and in the Islamic world but elsewhere religion is on the decline. I live in Ireland that untill 20 years ago was still locked in the grip of the Catholic Chruch,fortunately my generation (i'm 26) has completely abandoned religion with Mass attendance down massively and the number of priests and nuns being ordained also reduced to almost nothing. It is no coincidence that at the same time our economy has transformed, the role of women has changed and the country is generally far less depressed than it once was. Across Europe the picture is much the same.37. Comment #1282 by Sarah on October 11, 2006 at 6:10 am
I spent half hour after watching the UTube clip ranting- And I hadn't even seen the whole film!38. Comment #3113 by goddogit on October 25, 2006 at 5:06 pm
An interesting definition of what Christianity is by self-declared Christians can be read above. I believe I am summerizing it correctly as: Christianity cannot be taught, directly in a "Jesus Camp" or through socialization, but only received through personal revelation.40. Comment #3218 by ThePacifier on October 26, 2006 at 2:14 pm
You fear that which you don't believe in....41. Comment #3223 by The Spaghetti Monster on October 26, 2006 at 3:06 pm
I am real…….as evident by the words you are currently reading.42. Comment #3225 by goddogit on October 26, 2006 at 3:32 pm
Xians ("anonymous? Give me a break!) and Xians or simple trolls ("Steven Colbert" Couldn't you be more obvious?) wearing cartoon-rationalist masks, evidently for Halloween, may be viewed - by those of you who are none too fastidious in their entertainment - in the appallingly stupid exchanges before this.43. Comment #3435 by goddogit on October 28, 2006 at 4:33 pm
Doug, your recipe for defining "madness" seems, well, not only entirely self-serving but entirely dishonest. If someone is raised in the faith of North Korean nationalism, would not you consider their beliefs a bit unreal, even "mad". If you go back to, say, ANY "Christian" war and listened to the "beliefs" of the majority as they gloried in slaughtering their "deviant" Christian opponents, wouldn't they be quite clearly "mad"? If you talked to Christian in Europe even a hundred years ago, and they fervently "believed" that Jews used the blood of Christians to make their bread, wouldn't you consider this a "madness" that needed the cure of rational debate, and even the need for government intervension?44. Comment #3436 by Fedler on October 28, 2006 at 4:47 pm
Reply on Comment #661 by Anonymous on October 5, 2006 at 5:32 pm45. Comment #4263 by William on November 3, 2006 at 6:18 am
An interesting and truly frightening article.46. Comment #4290 by William on November 3, 2006 at 8:17 am
Laura M Said:47. Comment #4291 by Russ on November 3, 2006 at 8:28 am
Good idea by Mark Robinson. Post 123. Comment #4268.50. Comment #4624 by Roy on November 4, 2006 at 10:48 pm
"Ted ( Haggard) is as creepy as ever",
1. Comment #584 by TheRandomDude on October 4, 2006 at 9:10 am
I call it, "Medievalization" and I think it's spreading more rapidly than ever before.along with christian rejection of science, there is also cell phone companies that cripple phones which have extra features only in the US, and digital rights management so widespread that it's destroying technological advancement to a huge extent.
in another 10 years we'll be behind the rest of the world so vastly that if you want to study technology or use it creatively, you'll have to move to japan or korea.