1. Comment #90939 by notsobad on November 26, 2007 at 6:22 pm

Lying and stealing for Jesus.

Reminds me of the IDiots who altered Attenborough's programs in the Netherlands.

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2. Comment #90953 by Vinelectric on November 26, 2007 at 7:25 pm

Call to all Biologists!

This video reminded me of a visiting cell biologist who gave us a lecture on the role of cytokines as colony stimulating factors and the mechanism by which they induced cell division. I could not verify some of the things mentioned in that lecture.

He seemed to suggest that the molecules that signalled cell division interfere with the fluidity of the constant turn-over of the membrane components at the site of receptor coupling. It is as if the secondary intracellular changes that resulted in cell division came as a response to a mechanical block no more and no less. Splitting the membrane restores the molecular turnover.

If that were true then it would be a nice explanation of how seemingly complex processes are essentially a culmination of simple mechanisms. Is this true? I haven't come across anyone else to describe it that way (I'm not a biologist).

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3. Comment #90954 by 35bluejacket on November 26, 2007 at 7:25 pm

I saw the videos and read the comments further down. I felt like a detective curious to see where the strings would lead. To my shock one of them leads to a Baptist Minister in my family who helped bring Dembski to O.U. in Norman Oklahoma. The lecture was a failure for ID and the DI because the the huge turnout of unexpected secular students that pummeled Dembski with questions. When I visited my brother last month, I noticed he was acting differently but I didn't know why.
It is so sad. A life's work crumbling around him. He is a good man, and now he's caught between betrayal and lying.


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4. Comment #90958 by Michael P. on November 26, 2007 at 7:53 pm

(the thought of ) Harvard suing the Discovery Institute... priceless.

I sure hope this is the last straw, but I doubt it.

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5. Comment #91006 by Will in Aus on November 26, 2007 at 11:46 pm

Typical. I hope Harvard and XVIVO take them for all they're worth. It's just another example of ID proponents being unscientific!

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6. Comment #91052 by Mango on November 27, 2007 at 5:49 am

In some circles this indiscretion will follow Dembski for the rest of his career.

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7. Comment #91089 by gyokusai on November 27, 2007 at 7:22 am

Career, LOL!

(You mean when he dies and goes to heaven?)

^_^J.

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8. Comment #91091 by jimbob on November 27, 2007 at 7:32 am

Oops, there goes #9 again!

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9. Comment #91123 by black wolf on November 27, 2007 at 9:46 am

DI: 'But we were only correcting the material to reflect God's Truth, which has been revealed and is therefore irrefutable, so it's actually Harvard which is distorting the Truth, and we would like to have all our lawyers sue them for it. Alas, the Worldly International Secularism Enterprise Conspiracy Refuting Asserted Clerical Knowledge (WISECRACK) will not allow us to do so'.

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10. Comment #91220 by Duff on November 27, 2007 at 4:53 pm

Evil, in the defense of Jesus' truth is not evil. By golly, by gosh!

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11. Comment #91270 by monkey2 on November 27, 2007 at 9:40 pm

'The Inner life of the cell' is simply mind blowing. Any of Dembskis' students who see it will surely be impressed by the depth of scientific understanding behind it. If they end up studying cell biology then I have no doubt that 99.9% of them will reject ID.

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12. Comment #105895 by the_ultimate_samurai on January 2, 2008 at 4:52 am

yes the original was quite astonishing, it realy is a beautiful thing the inside of a cell, something of a world alien to us, inside our own bodies. the world according to a bacteria. world of nuclear bond, chemical reactions, fluid motion. where friction or gravity dont keep you on a surface, covalent bonds do. what a different world that is from ours, but what a different world ours would be from a much grander being (speaking natural here, not super natural) imagine a being where galaxies are like cities. and the world is the universe, imagine a being on that scale, or a being not bound to this universe, i would quite imagine to such a being, our world would be like the world of those cells. it is much as dawkins mentions about "middle world" how strange worlds of the very small and the very large and the very fast appear to us.

and what the DI did to that lovely film is horrible. i hope they get what's coming to them

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13. Comment #130325 by Justin Hopkins on February 20, 2008 at 10:28 am

Ahh, good stuff turning an amazing video into a piece of crap.

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