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Mitt Romney appears to think that, in respect of the bizarre beliefs of his church, he has come up with a twofer response. Not only can he decline to answer questions about these beliefs, he can also reap additional benefit from complaining that people keep asking him about them. In a video response of revolting sanctimony and self-pity last week, he responded to some allegedly anti-Mormon "push poll" calls in Iowa and New Hampshire by saying that it was "un-American" to bring up his "faith," especially "at a time when we are preparing for Thanksgiving," whatever that had to do with it. Additional interest is lent to this evasive tactic by the very well-argued case, made by Mark Hemingway in National Review Online, that it was actually the Romney campaign that had initiated the anti-Mormon push-poll calls in the first place! What's that? A threefer? Let me count the ways: You encourage the raising of an awkward question in such a way as to make it seem illegitimate. You then strike a hurt attitude and say that you are being persecuted for your faith. This, in turn, discourages other reporters from raising the question. Yes, that's the three-card monte.2. Comment #91140 by jaytee_555 on November 27, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Mormon beliefs are not significantly nuttier than run of the mill fundamentalist beliefs, really - just less familiar.3. Comment #91141 by maton100 on November 27, 2007 at 12:02 pm
4. Comment #91143 by Rtambree on November 27, 2007 at 12:09 pm
They all need to answer questions about their beliefs. Mormonism is just as stupid as all the rest.5. Comment #91145 by GBG on November 27, 2007 at 12:13 pm
6. Comment #91147 by BaronOchs on November 27, 2007 at 12:14 pm
7. Comment #91151 by USA_Limey on November 27, 2007 at 12:18 pm
8. Comment #91153 by dbunker on November 27, 2007 at 12:23 pm
If I were Mitt Romney, I'd be reluctant to say too much in public about my beliefs too. Mormon undies? You learn something new every day!9. Comment #91155 by Russell's Teapot on November 27, 2007 at 12:28 pm
10. Comment #91163 by misanthropic777 on November 27, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Wow - boy did this article rile up a bunch of people over on Slate's site. Most of whom don't get the point that if Romney would TALK about his faith than we could attack the foolishness he actually adheres to as opposed to just picking the cream of the crop of wacky mormon ideas....11. Comment #91164 by Shuggy on November 27, 2007 at 12:54 pm
If all said here is correct it suggests the mormon racism thing is at least a little more complex:Sorry, Wikipedia can not be relied on for any controversial topic. Its content gets reduced to a lowest common denominator that everyone can agree on. Otherwise you're at the mercy of whoever vandalised it last.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacks_and_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints
12. Comment #91166 by nogodsever on November 27, 2007 at 12:58 pm
13. Comment #91170 by Shuggy on November 27, 2007 at 1:01 pm
14. Comment #91171 by Fedler on November 27, 2007 at 1:03 pm
15. Comment #91174 by Diacanu on November 27, 2007 at 1:10 pm
16. Comment #91175 by Diacanu on November 27, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Let's see if he gets the Republican nomination.
17. Comment #91176 by BaronOchs on November 27, 2007 at 1:15 pm
18. Comment #91179 by ordeneus on November 27, 2007 at 1:27 pm
People seem to be so defensive over this religion. As if explaining his beliefs were a treasonous request!19. Comment #91182 by Diacanu on November 27, 2007 at 1:33 pm
20. Comment #91184 by liberalartist on November 27, 2007 at 1:52 pm
21. Comment #91185 by CJ22 on November 27, 2007 at 1:59 pm
22. Comment #91186 by Corylus on November 27, 2007 at 2:05 pm
23. Comment #91191 by thelogogryph on November 27, 2007 at 2:32 pm
24. Comment #91197 by Dr Benway on November 27, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Corylus: OK, no magic spells, but also no VPL in the photoshoot.Speaking of, I caught a rerun of Space 1999 recently and was reminded of the surprising quantity of polyester in those days. Couple of the cuter dudes have no VLP. One's Jewish.
25. Comment #91198 by USA_Limey on November 27, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Hell no. Nip him in the bud now, says I.
26. Comment #91199 by knutsondc on November 27, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Back in February, Mitt rather famously stated that we needed a "person of faith" to lead the country. Obviously, he believes that a candidate's faith is relevant to his qualifications for the Presidency. If that's so, then why shouldn't the content of Mitt's faith be "fair game?" What about it makes him better qualified to be President than a candidate who isn't a "person of faith?"27. Comment #91209 by TheHardProblem on November 27, 2007 at 3:38 pm
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There are two pertinent things mention in this article that are true about Mormonism and not generally known by non-Mormons.29. Comment #91216 by Hobbit on November 27, 2007 at 4:23 pm
30. Comment #91217 by Duff on November 27, 2007 at 4:23 pm
One additional thing, if I may.31. Comment #91222 by upsidedawn on November 27, 2007 at 5:01 pm
When I visit my mormon relatives in Utah...I am always creeped out. The whole state has this creepy-conforming-cultish feel to it. I wouldn't want to live there.
32. Comment #91225 by Jaffas85 on November 27, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Journalists should at least be able to ask him about the racist elements of Mormonism.33. Comment #91236 by prettygoodformonkeys on November 27, 2007 at 6:13 pm
34. Comment #91241 by rar on November 27, 2007 at 6:21 pm
This article is hypocritical to me. Hitchens, Bill Maher, and a variety of other prominent atheists lament the fact religion is tied into politics and strongly discourage America's tendency to vote for Protestant candidates. Romney, a protestant, wants to stick to the issues and doesn't believe his beliefs are a central topic in his campaign. It seems this is what Hitchens would want; keeping beliefs private and separating church from state. This is unless Hitchens just wants to argue both ways because he is angry and not solely on a campaign for rationality.35. Comment #91243 by Diacanu on November 27, 2007 at 6:27 pm
36. Comment #91244 by rar on November 27, 2007 at 6:29 pm
It looks like its working just fine...37. Comment #91245 by Diacanu on November 27, 2007 at 6:36 pm
It looks like its working just fine...
38. Comment #91258 by k1mgy on November 27, 2007 at 8:01 pm
39. Comment #91264 by entheogensmurf on November 27, 2007 at 8:48 pm
If a candidate was Muslim I think we ought to know. Therefor they must be required to divulge any information requested.40. Comment #91288 by Conrad on November 28, 2007 at 12:56 am
If Mitt is too sly to answer such pressing questions when they are tied to his vacuous religious beliefs, then simply phrase them differently.41. Comment #91293 by PJG on November 28, 2007 at 1:37 am
34. Comment #91241 by rar on November 27, 2007 at 6:21 pm
This article is hypocritical to me. Hitchens, Bill Maher, and a variety of other prominent atheists lament the fact religion is tied into politics and strongly discourage America's tendency to vote for Protestant candidates.
42. Comment #91299 by Tintern on November 28, 2007 at 2:14 am
It's no surprise that the press have tacitly agreed to give him an easy ride. Look at what they've gone along with for the last two presidential terms. It would be a huge surprise if they suddenly acted like real journalists and guardians of free speech.43. Comment #91301 by scooternyc on November 28, 2007 at 2:17 am
44. Comment #91303 by D'Arcy on November 28, 2007 at 2:19 am
45. Comment #91313 by jeroen on November 28, 2007 at 2:43 am
Pity, no picture on that website of what the magic underwear actually looks like, just in the plastic bag.46. Comment #91314 by Tyler Durden on November 28, 2007 at 2:43 am
I'm talking to you democrats out there. Rudy would be a real threat to Hilary or Obama, but alot of Republicans have real problems with him. If you want a Democrat in the Whitehouse you might want Romney to be running against the Democrat. Then you can take out his legs over his cult beliefs and the Christians, idiots that they are, would vote for a third candidate.There is a theory that Rudi will split the GOP base if he gets the nomination based on his "liberal" views re: abortion, gay rights, divorce. The Evangelicals/Bible Belt won't vote for him in 2008, boom, easy win for Hillary!
47. Comment #91315 by scooternyc on November 28, 2007 at 2:48 am
48. Comment #91337 by posiedon on November 28, 2007 at 4:46 am
49. Comment #91340 by AllanW on November 28, 2007 at 5:04 am
50. Comment #91349 by mikeshin on November 28, 2007 at 5:38 am
Indidel Guy has a great podcast in which he interviews a former Mormon. Gives a good picture of why we do not want them in government anywhere, ever.
1. Comment #91132 by Scott McMeekin on November 27, 2007 at 11:36 am
Ho hum.
Scott.
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