1. Comment #103787 by Olliedog on December 26, 2007 at 9:31 pm

I need to keep copies of this on hand to give to every jerk who says "Were you there?" with that smug tone of voice...

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2. Comment #103790 by debaser71 on December 26, 2007 at 9:43 pm

People tell me that grass grows. I don't believe them. I sat and watched and watched and watched. I never saw the grass grow. Sure every 5 days or so I need to go outside and mow it but that doesn't prove that grass grows. I won't believe until I actually see it for myself!

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3. Comment #103795 by Styrer- on December 26, 2007 at 10:12 pm

Any chance that Dianelos will not see this?

Heard something, that may be him, I'm ontologically off somewhere else.

Best,
Styrer

:)

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4. Comment #103797 by Russell's Teapot on December 26, 2007 at 10:20 pm

Reminds me of a Sunday Morning Breakfast Cereal comic:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=934#comic

And another good one on creationism:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1019#comic

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5. Comment #103801 by The Truth, the light on December 26, 2007 at 11:00 pm

There's some good stuff on saintgasoline.com.

I like this one as well

http://saintgasoline.com/comics/2007-07-09-Wheel_Of_Misfortune.JPG

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6. Comment #103804 by righton on December 26, 2007 at 11:06 pm

I have a question that is off this topic.

I keep coming across the interview where someone asks RD to give an example of a mutation that increases the information in the genome. RD pauses, then there is a wierd edit and he starts talking about something else.

Could anyone tell me what happened? I am a molecular biologist and I know RD could have given many examples of mutations increasing information in the genome.(gene duplications, transposons/retrotransposons, mutations causing new acceptor splice sites, etc.)

So what happened?

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7. Comment #103807 by Veronique on December 26, 2007 at 11:23 pm

6. Comment #103804 by righton

I can't answer your question, but we have several molecular biologists and biochemists contributing to this site and some may take up your query.

On the other hand, RD does read the comment threads and may come across your question and answer it himself.

The other thing you can do is use the contact tab on the front page and email RD with your query. This seems a more direct approach to me. I, for one, would like to know the answer. I suspect that editing may have something to do with what you are positing.

Cheers
V

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8. Comment #103811 by Acleron on December 26, 2007 at 11:52 pm

This is quite old. I believe it was discussed in RD's The Devil's Chaplain. Briefly RD was being interviewed in his own house by a film crew when this question cropped up. RD immediately realised that this was an id/creationist crew and the pause was as he considered throwing them out. He eventually agreed to answer the question but, of course, that's left out. The incident was fully discussed in http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98367 at the Randi Forums.

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9. Comment #103812 by Veronique on December 26, 2007 at 11:53 pm

Ah, righton, I see you have had your question answered on another thread.

This is good.
V

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10. Comment #103814 by righton on December 26, 2007 at 11:56 pm

Thanks a lot!

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11. Comment #103883 by JFHalsey on December 27, 2007 at 7:35 am

Those comics are all pure gold and made my morning. Thanks for sharing! ^_^

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12. Comment #103885 by konquererz on December 27, 2007 at 7:38 am

This cartoon needs to be my background on my phone.

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13. Comment #103887 by al-rawandi on December 27, 2007 at 7:47 am

Ya where do I pick that up.

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14. Comment #103912 by robotaholic on December 27, 2007 at 10:02 am

honestly out of all the writers of "the new atheists" I like Richard Dawkins the best :)

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15. Comment #103931 by fin on December 27, 2007 at 11:03 am

6. Comment #103804 by righton

I keep coming across the interview where someone asks RD to give an example of a mutation that increases the information in the genome.

The question is a creationist straw-man. It cannot be answered because "the information of a genome" has never been defined.

Because it has not been defined, it cannot be measured.

Because it cannot be measured, we cannot know if a mutation increases or decreases it.

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16. Comment #103958 by righton on December 27, 2007 at 11:40 am

wow, thats rediculous, but interesting.

Thanks fin!

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17. Comment #103970 by al-rawandi on December 27, 2007 at 11:54 am

I reject this cartoon. I would suggest the bucket is in fact the creationist, and the shit... well it's just that... shit.

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18. Comment #104440 by stevey1158 on December 28, 2007 at 1:41 pm

This reminds me of the bumper sticker I had many years ago...

"I'll see it when I believe it"

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19. Comment #104448 by al-rawandi on December 28, 2007 at 1:53 pm

Stevey1158,

They had a sticker here in the US (pro-Christian) which Read "I found it". It meant they found the truth or jesus or whatever.

My dad's friend had one that said "I found it! But now my finger stinks".

The thing was torn off in under a week.

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20. Comment #104454 by scaudi on December 28, 2007 at 2:01 pm

The question is a creationist straw-man. It cannot be answered because "the information of a genome" has never been defined.

You can measure the information of a genome as well as you can measure the information of any given sequence of symbols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information#Measuring_information_entropy),
and you need energy to increase information in any system.
Creationists state that you can't increase information in a closed system, and that's true. Anyway they seem oblivious of what a closed system is: something that does not exchange energy with the environment. Life forms do exchange energy with the environment (eating, for example), thus they can increase in complexity. It's simple as that.

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