1. Comment #115830 by 82abhilash on January 24, 2008 at 10:21 pm

They are desperate. This looks more like a video to scare Christian children into evangelizing than anything else.

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2. Comment #115832 by Diacanu on January 24, 2008 at 10:30 pm

Tch, sheesh. Keep shooting yourselves in the foot with this nasty creepy evil crap, christians.
Makes our work easier.

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3. Comment #115833 by Wiggy on January 24, 2008 at 10:33 pm

Didn't work. I'm still not Christian. But seriously, that's got to be the sickest, most vile, disgusting, shameless attempt to manipulate children I've ever seen. How can anyone think that would be a good thing to show to kids?

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4. Comment #115835 by Will in Aus on January 24, 2008 at 10:35 pm

That really would be child abuse to show that to a child. Disgusting.

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5. Comment #115836 by seanwupton on January 24, 2008 at 10:35 pm

GodTube! What is going on? They're getting desperate with this aren't they? Yet it is as Wiggy rightfully said "the sickest, most vile, disgusting, shameless attempt to manipulate children I've ever seen."

*sighs*

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6. Comment #115837 by Cartomancer on January 24, 2008 at 10:37 pm

THAT was supposed to be terrifying? Really? I've had sandwiches more terrifying than that! (although Wadham College canteen sandwiches are pretty terrifying)

I'm guessing this is supposed to be aimed at young adults old enough to drink and drive, which would make them what, about 17 or 18? Are they telling me that a modern seventeen year old would find this even remotely scary? A seventeen year old who, in all probability, would have been watching Terminator films at twelve, playing Resident Evil and listening to thrash house goth metal or whatever passes for music among the young and disaffected these days? (I learned the word "emo" the other day - fascinating, sort of like low sugar goth. Aren't I still hip and with it kids! What do you mean no?)

Seems to me like the christians shot themselves in the foot by complying with their own ridiculously tame standards of taste and decency for this video. Oh the irony!

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7. Comment #115838 by Goldy on January 24, 2008 at 10:37 pm

Wahahahahahahahha! Fuck me, you can't make comedy like this! Sweet proverbial, this is the funniest shit I've seen in a long time! Love it!
Edit - Christian kids must be really immature. I've sent this around the world for the enjoyment of others. Would this have scared me? WAHAHAHAHAHAH! Yeah, right! (incidently, one of the few double positives making a negative). C'mon, how soft can you get!

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8. Comment #115839 by mikes on January 24, 2008 at 10:41 pm

Christians certainly know how to use narrative--with its ability to suspend skepticism for the sake of a story--and visuals that tap into our disposition to grant instant credibility to what we see--seeing is believing.

While I applaud Dawkins,Dennett,Harris and Hitchens for their works addressing people at an intellectual level. Perhaps the most good will come when someone can write a great atheist narrative and fight brimstone with brimstone--or perhaps not.

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9. Comment #115840 by Diacanu on January 24, 2008 at 10:42 pm

It didn't scare me at face value, but I did get chicken skin over the fear and guilt they were clearly drying to lay down, and that part creeped me the fuck out.
This shit's a fuckin' disease.

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10. Comment #115841 by Ducklike on January 24, 2008 at 10:51 pm

I hope Zack saved the stamp, it'd be worth something.

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11. Comment #115842 by LorienRyan on January 24, 2008 at 10:55 pm

Jesus Christ! Fear mongering and emotional blackmail made especially for the kids. How low will these small people sink to? - the depths of hell maybe?

Diacanu,

Come on, we know you were scared.

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12. Comment #115843 by Garnok on January 24, 2008 at 10:57 pm

I can't say much about this being disgusting or sick, even by evangelical standards, since I was bored just 2 minutes into it and stopped watching. Although I will say George Lucas should give them a call about their use of the word crawl at the beginning. Not necessarily because it rips off Star Wars, but because that was simply tacky and I've seen better dubbing on a Saturday afternoon Kung- Fu theater special.

Cartomancer said:

I'm guessing this is supposed to be aimed at young adults old enough to drink and drive, which would make them what, about 17 or 18? Are they telling me that a modern seventeen year old would find this even remotely scary?

If said 17- 18 year old was a child sequestered from the world and constantly told that every shadow held a demon or devil just waiting for a stray thought that didn't contain god to cross their mind so that they could drag this hopeless person down into the depths of hell for all eternity, they might find this rather scary. Sadly, I know too many people who were raised like that.

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13. Comment #115844 by info_dump on January 24, 2008 at 11:06 pm

What a manipulative piece of crap. It sure makes god look nice doesn't it?

One question - how did that guy manage to continue writing a letter as he was being dragged away by angels?

Maybe he was dictating the letter to a scribe angel who also delivered it.

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14. Comment #115845 by Snakeboy on January 24, 2008 at 11:09 pm

I'd like to know how Josh managed to sign off the letter while he was being held over the flames by the bad angels. Hey...hang on, how come the letter didn't get burnt?! This Josh guy might be a fake!

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15. Comment #115846 by Russell's Teapot on January 24, 2008 at 11:11 pm

The scariest thing about that was the text scrolling too fast in the beginning.

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16. Comment #115847 by LorienRyan on January 24, 2008 at 11:16 pm

Josh dictated the letter to Satan who wrote it in the blood of innocent puppies killed by sadistic children scared to death by videos like that.

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17. Comment #115848 by pastin on January 24, 2008 at 11:18 pm

Why did I keep waiting for him to scream "LEAVE BRITNEY ALOOOONE"?

Must just be his voice.

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18. Comment #115850 by Highwayman429 on January 24, 2008 at 11:23 pm

So, the most important thing Zach held back from Josh was his belief in this Christ fella? Seems to me he would have been better holding back this idiot's car keys. F'in moron drunk driver.

Seriously, I've gotten Valentines that are scarier.

I could go on about this piece of crap, but really, it's like fishing with dynamite.

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19. Comment #115852 by V1ktor on January 24, 2008 at 11:26 pm

hahahaha and they think that will bring people closer to doG? It was like watching those funny prank videos that you find online. Oh, oh...and they even have their own Tube website..GodTube.com hahaha thats good, made my day hahaha...

v1k =)

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20. Comment #115853 by Boukeb on January 24, 2008 at 11:28 pm

Good to know I can keep in touch with my friends and family when I go to hell. Do they have cellulars there? Or msn?

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21. Comment #115854 by logical on January 24, 2008 at 11:29 pm

Exactly, info_dump.
That´s what I thought when I was told such things by the catholic nuns in kindergarden and early school.
(Some of them were also good actresses)
It scared me - away from any belief.
O.K, if the faithheads still use scare tactics, we can hope that it backfires in more children nowadays! One problem is when school systems are so bad that children lack an idea how to think straight - and perhaps this US home schooling has a perfect censorship effect (the parents who try this here in Continental Europe are always fanatics)
In the moment we have the bestseller effect on our side, I watched some children at the display shelf of the local library discussing TGD´s German translation and the question who is lying to them. I am not good in guessing age, not quite grownup height but no sign of puberty - what would that be, 10, 12?

Rune C. Olwen

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22. Comment #115856 by Russell's Teapot on January 24, 2008 at 11:34 pm

(Unless I'm missing it) this needs the little "The site this came from allows commenting! You should tell them what you think!" blurb. Funny comments and/or clever usernames encouraged :)

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23. Comment #115857 by Healyhatman on January 24, 2008 at 11:38 pm

I read some of the comments on the GodTube site about this video.... Some guy was so happy to have a video like this, so proud of his Christian morals in showing it to his CHILDREN... His 11, 9 and FOUR YEAR OLD children. That does in fact sound like child abuse to me.

Why do these freaks talk about their God being loving and gentle and kind... And then in the next breath go on about people being thrown to hell for not accepting jesus as their personal savior? The end of this sick film talks about a little girl. The narrator says he hears the little girls screams coming to him from Hell... What kind of God would throw a child into Hell for not worshiping him? How young does a child have to BE to not get thrown into hell according to these freaks? Is four too old? 3? Must a toddler's first word be "jesus" to prevent them being thrown into their Lake of Fire?


To the person who posted this - I hope your child's mind hasn't been corrupted by this disease, this text-adventure snuff-film. And I hope you find the child who gave him the link, and make SURE that child's parents get an extremely stern talking to - recruiting their own child to distribute filth like this is the height of Christian child-abuse and needs to be stamped out.

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24. Comment #115858 by Newk on January 24, 2008 at 11:54 pm

pfff silly christians, how low can you go :( ...

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25. Comment #115860 by YssiBoo on January 24, 2008 at 11:55 pm

I guess GodTube shares the same server with YouPorn.

But seriously, it is good to start the day with a hot steaming cup of stupid isn't it?

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26. Comment #115862 by YssiBoo on January 24, 2008 at 11:58 pm

I don't think I dare going to this GodTube site. I'm afraid my computer will catch the stupid, and convert to christian technology. (Fire and brimstone will not do wonders to the computer simulations i'm doing for my master's degree...)

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27. Comment #115866 by TonyA on January 25, 2008 at 12:42 am

Fvcking Idiot. What kind of a 'tarded Moron is God anyway? If this is the way He works, then He has the brains of a walnut. Clearly Zack should burn in Hell for not telling Josh. Josh was innocent and he didn't do anything wrong, but Zack!! Oh, that Zack cretin knew better and he still didn't tell Josh. That's just evil. There's only one moral solution here, burn Zack in hell for ever and ever and ever.

Hmm. No that doesn't make any sense either....

edit: Only a minute later and I can already prove I'm a little more stupider for having seen that.

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28. Comment #115867 by Philip1978 on January 25, 2008 at 12:43 am

Oh My Dog!

Josh - was this a sort of futuristic version of you sending the last posting to RD.net before being carted off? Must change the banner heading.... No wait, I have to get that guy trolled....nooooo its David Robertson....please let me baaaaaaaacckkk!

Dear me, I quickly went to look at that site, there are some really stupid people on there wiffling on about how its changed their lives??!

This does actually have to be the worst attempt at worrying people into believing in hell I have ever seen. I will keep a list this year and see if I can send an award for the worst one - the prize being a copy of the God Delusion! :)

Philip

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29. Comment #115868 by aporeticus on January 25, 2008 at 12:52 am

How many unsaved-go-to-hell believers out there really believe what they profess? If you truly believe this as much as I believe I'm sitting at a computer and typing, then you'd have to be insane. Such is your reality that God lets people who happened to not hear enough about Jesus to take him seriously go to hell and suffer infinite torment. If this was reality to me, I'd be so mortified they would have to carry me to an asylum. What doublethink you have to wring your mind through to both believe this and yet ignore it enough to live your life reasonably normally.

What happened to people before Jesus, anyway? Everybody went to hell back then? They'd have to. Otherwise, what use is a Savior?

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30. Comment #115869 by scoobie on January 25, 2008 at 12:53 am

Wow, this place of eternal torment really exists... Godtube, that is. I don't believe it. A collection of lamer videos it is hard to imagine.

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31. Comment #115871 by ralphj on January 25, 2008 at 12:56 am

Looks like a movie teaser. Buffy should enter the scene any minute now...

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32. Comment #115872 by TonyA on January 25, 2008 at 12:57 am

What happened to people before Jesus, anyway? Everybody went to hell back then? They'd have to. Otherwise, what use is a Savior?

Indeed. This Evil God, to this day, still mercilessly tortures, for an eternity no less, two out of every three people born as punishment for his own communications impotence.

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33. Comment #115874 by Andrea on January 25, 2008 at 1:01 am

I find interesting that their point is that christian kid should have bothered to "tell his friends about Jesus, their personal saviour"; do they really want to admit to Heaven someone who couldn't be bothered to ask "Who's this Jesus of yours, anyway?" and gladly wishes instead to have some company in Hell? Really screams "Christian love" to me.

"Nevermind you're an opportunistic ass, we just want you to be in heaven too!"

No reason and no morals at all. As expected.

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34. Comment #115875 by kintaro_crab on January 25, 2008 at 1:01 am

wow a compelling story I laughed, I was Angry, then i laughed again.

That boy should have been sending that letter straight to god instead of his buddy. If that prick of a Christian god actually did exist he'd be the one deserving of such a letter.

BTW: Loved the poem Dr. Sues on Jesus Crack.

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35. Comment #115876 by Styrer- on January 25, 2008 at 1:03 am

Why do these freaks talk about their God being loving and gentle and kind... And then in the next breath go on about people being thrown to hell for not accepting jesus as their personal savior?

Healyhatman, you put your finger on at least one of the reasons I think this video should be shown to kids.

As a tool to illustrate the twisted, vicious desperation of the faithful, it's rather pithy, and used properly to engage children in an exercise in critical thinking is a rather useful addition to the anti-theist arsenal.

An unintentionally helpful educational contribution, in other words.

Best,
Styrer

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36. Comment #115877 by Quetzalcoatl on January 25, 2008 at 1:04 am

I'm confused. If Hell is a place of eternal fire and torment, how did this guy write a letter?

a) Surely the paper would have combusted, destroying the letter.
b) Wasn't he was too busy being tortured and gnashing his teeth to take the time to write a letter?
c) I wasn't aware Hell had a postal service, although if it did, it would probably be quicker than Royal Mail.

Clearly the video should be removed, on the grounds that it is highly illogical.

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37. Comment #115879 by celestial_nico on January 25, 2008 at 1:22 am

Wow, didn't know they had a postal service up and running between lakes of fire, tortures & all the usual stuff! Or maybe the letter was sent by e-mail... Mhhhh, makes me think of investing in a 3G phone, one never knows ;o)
Cheers all!

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38. Comment #115881 by Slyer on January 25, 2008 at 1:30 am

If Jesus is real and wants me to be saved he can damn well tell me himself! Why leave it up to fellow believers?

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39. Comment #115882 by IanG on January 25, 2008 at 1:34 am

Is this a historical movie, from the first half of the 20th century?

Leni Riefenstahl lives.

Hitler is become God.

The Gestapo are become his Angels.

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40. Comment #115884 by EgoSumNemo on January 25, 2008 at 1:37 am

"Hell mail, 'cause you know your letter will arrive 4 years late" I mean, what better way to torment ppl than delivering their mail far too late?... ...well... ...why the hell (XD) else would hell need a postal service?!

the fact that I'm from the secular country Sweden, made it hard for me to really consider it serious. Felt like some movie teaser for some weird comedy show movie...a bit like the "Terminator and Jesus" thing.

I do however (nearly) realize it is real...but wtf guys (and girls), why blame it on his friend?! If God just would've really proved his own existence, everything would've been alright.

And to answer you Newk. Lower than you think, much lower.

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41. Comment #115885 by phatbat on January 25, 2008 at 1:42 am

That was truly brilliant.

Was amazing how Josh managed to keep writing as he was carried to the flames and even as he was held over the flames, the writing would surely have been completely illegible.

Are we supposed to believe that this guy had been living in America all his life and never heard of Jesus!

What a Joke.

Well done to your son Carmine for seeing it for what it was. Good to see analytical thinking in one so young, i think if you start out with that outlook it is, in a manner of speaking, an ESS.

Godtube - LOL, i want one of those.

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42. Comment #115886 by EgoSumNemo on January 25, 2008 at 1:43 am

Yeah I agree Slyer if he wants me saved, he got to do it himself, 'cause those Christians does not convince me for a sec.

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43. Comment #115887 by BaronOchs on January 25, 2008 at 1:46 am

Apart from everything else that video is also hypocrisy because it says in the bible you can't communicate with anyone once you're in hell:

Luke 16:

[27] Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
[28] For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
[29] Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
[30] And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
[31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

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44. Comment #115888 by bard63 on January 25, 2008 at 1:47 am

I am going to show this to my kids, and get some feedback from them as to what they think of it. They are pretty balanced and robustly sceptical about religions of all types (I am a Jewish Atheist, their mom is a an Anglican Buddhist).

I found this video funnier and more likely to convince people about the ridiculousness of a god belief than many of Pat Condells videos. Keep em coming......

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45. Comment #115891 by TheHardProblem on January 25, 2008 at 2:01 am

This video had two parts

Up till 3:20, to me, the 'angels' 'jesus' and whoever else was working in this celestial place were acting out as bad guys like in a movie.
I was not feeling guilt or thought that I was watching a video promoting belief in jesus.
It sounded as a warning that there are deeply evil beings out there in the after life, selecting people based on their belief-profile, like nazis.

If opposing this is called anti-theism, then call me an anti-theist from now on.

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46. Comment #115892 by mr-zero on January 25, 2008 at 2:01 am

Yuck! So through no fault of his own, simply because he hadn't been told about Jebus, Josh is sent to hell for eternity?!
What sort of sick, deeply immoral creed is that?!

...and again yuck!

Z

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47. Comment #115893 by Spiny on January 25, 2008 at 2:07 am

"I guess GodTube shares the same server with YouPorn."

Here's hoping for a DNS mixup :)

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48. Comment #115897 by Dune010 on January 25, 2008 at 2:17 am

I have seen this before!!

I found it on GodTube a couple of months ago. The thing that really annoyed me was that the Star Wars style text near the beginning goes too quickly for the voice over.

What's more, this kid dies in a drink driving accident and they focus on some stupid letter??

Talk about priorities.

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49. Comment #115898 by Recalcitrant on January 25, 2008 at 2:23 am

Wow, imagine if the democrat national party ran the same kind of ad without the dying but used the voter registry instead of the "Book of Life." Sorry, you're not a registered Democrat and you didn't give to Green Peace, we're going to put you in a holding cell and then have two PETA members escort you to a gas furnace, toss you in and slow roast you. You're allowed to dictate one letter out to the electorate while your skin blisters off..... the public and Republicans would have a frakin shit fit! But hey this is "winning souls" for Jesus were talking about so don't criticize that! Only someone who is cognitively dissonant could be outraged at the example above but then turn around and defend this video.

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50. Comment #115900 by Szkeptik on January 25, 2008 at 2:27 am

Man sooooo cool!!! They have to make a movie out of this!

"This summer... Josh started his eternal torment in Hell... We thought it was over for him... We thought it was inevitable...but we were wrong! Cause when an M249 SAW misteriously appers in the lake of fire... things can get angry...
STARRING Vin Diesel as little Josh... HELL IS IN FOR SOME SERIOUS ASSKICKING!"

Oh yeah! I hope they do it! Diesel is my favourite! I'll write a letter to WB now!

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