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Wednesday, February 13, 2008 | Reason : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document A Tyrannical Romance

by NY Times

Thanks to Logicel for the link.

http://judson.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/12/a-tyrannical-romance/

A Tyrannical Romance
by Olivia Judson

If Charles Darwin were alive today, he'd be turning 199: like Abraham Lincoln, he was born on Feb. 12 1809.

I considered observing their joint birthday with a discussion of slave making in ants, but rejected that idea in favor of another. For later this week is another Big Day: the feast of St. Valentine. With apologies to Lincoln, I've decided to hold a Darwin-Valentine celebration by revealing one of my more tyrannical romantic fantasies.

I should say, by way of preamble, that Darwin contributed far more to biology than the "Origin of Species," in which he laid out how evolution by natural selection works, and the evidence for it at the time. He also wrote (and this list is not complete): a treatise on the formation of coral reefs, which is still held to be correct; a landmark work on carnivorous plants; a definitive treatise on barnacles, extinct and extant; a study of how earthworms plow and aerate soil; and a fascinating speculation on the evolution of emotion in humans and other animals.

And that's not all. One of his other major works, "The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex," includes a huge compilation of the sexual decorations and displays of animals, from the jaws of stag-beetles to the tail of the Argus pheasant, which far exceeds that of the peacock in absurd magnificence. From his study of all this, Darwin began to elucidate systematic patterns and principles of the evolution of courtship and sexual behavior. In particular, he developed the concept of sexual selection, which is the idea that cumbersome ornaments like big tails can evolve, even if they make the bearer less likely to survive, if the opposite sex (usually the female) finds them attractive.

In doing so, he founded one of the most important and successful branches of evolutionary research. We now have a robust understanding of how sexual pressures — the pressures to find, impress, and seduce a mate — influence the evolution of males and females. So much so that if you tell me a fact, such as the average size difference between males and females in a species, or the proportion of a male's body taken up by his testes, I can tell you what the mating system is likely to be. For example, where males are much bigger than females, fighting between males has been important — which often means that the biggest males maintain a harem. If testes are relatively large, females probably have sex with several males in the course of a single breeding episode.

These forces are so reliable that, if only we could determine the sex of dinosaur fossils, we could begin to infer their mating habits. But alas. Unless the animal died while heavy with eggs, as one oviraptor obligingly did, determining the sex of a dinosaur is close to impossible. At one point, it was thought that the shape of a particular bone at the base of the tail might indicate sex; but a recent analysis has shown it does not. Now the best guesses come from subtle differences in structure of the bone in the hind legs. For the time being, then, fossils are stonily silent about the dinosaurs' private lives, their methods of wooing, the exuberance of their song-and-dance routines.

Which brings me to my tyrannical fantasy. I want to take a journey 68 million years back in time to see a Tyrannosaurus rex couple mating. What was it like? Did they trumpet and bellow and stamp their feet? Did they thrash their enormous tails? Did he bite her neck in rapture and exude a musky scent? Somehow, I imagine that when two T. rex got it on, the earth shook for miles around.

And if I could only take this journey, I could answer a question that sometimes bothers me. Did T. rex have a penis? Did he even, as lizards do, have two?

I ask the question not out of prurience, but because it's a matter of scientific interest. There are a couple of reasons why. First, the penis is another important indicator of the mating system. In species where females usually mate with a single male during a breeding episode, penises tend to be small and uninteresting. In those where females mate with several males (whether by choice or by force), penises are typically larger, and come with fancy decorations such as grooves, nobbles, and spikes. Second, the question of the dinosaur penis provides an exercise in evolutionary inference.

The reason we don't know whether T. rex had one is that the organ is generally too soft to leave a fossil trace. (There's an exception to this: some mammals have a bone in their penis, the os penis or baculum. This can fossilize. Humans are unusual among primates in not having one; in case you're wondering, it's not clear whether the bone plays a role in maintaining erections.)

Moreover, whether a male has a penis at all varies from one group to the next. Male salamanders, for instance, don't: they deposit sperm on the ground and the female collects it. Among birds, penises are rare: ostriches, emus, ducks, geese and swans are among the few. The rest just have a cloaca — an all-purpose opening also used for urination, defecation and, in the female, laying eggs. To copulate, two birds bring their cloacae together in what's called a cloacal kiss.

So what can we say about dinosaurs? My guess is that the males had members — but it's an educated guess. It's based on an analysis of dinosaur relations.

Two living groups are most closely related to dinosaurs. One is the crocodiles. Male crocodiles have a penis — just one — which, most of the time, they keep tucked inside their cloacae. (In most species of crocodile, it's hard to determine the sex of living animals without an intimate exam, never mind dead ones.) Compared with the mammalian penis, the crocodile's has an oddity: sperm is transported along an external groove, rather than through an internal tube.

The other group related to dinosaurs is the birds. Indeed, to be strict about it, birds are dinosaurs. If you look at a family tree of dinosaurs, birds, and other reptiles, you see that the lineage that evolved into dinosaurs split off from the lineage that evolved into crocodiles. Birds, in contrast, evolved directly from a dinosaur lineage. Birds are more closely related to T. rex than they are to any living form.

Birds themselves divide into two main groups, formally known as the palaeognathous and the neognathous. The palaeos comprises the big flightless birds such as ostriches, emus, rheas, and cassowaries, as well as kiwis and an obscure (but flying) group of south American birds, the tinamous; the neos covers everything else. The palaeos have penises; like crocodiles, they keep them tucked into their cloacae. Again like crocodiles, the organ has an external groove for sperm. What's more, the lineage leading to the other endowed birds, the ducks, geese, and swans, appears to have split off from that of the other neos relatively early.

This strongly suggests that the ancestor of all birds had a penis, and that at some point early in the evolution of the neognathous birds, the penis got lost. Since crocodiles have one, and ancestral birds almost certainly did, and since the two groups have such similar genital morphology, I think it's a safe bet that the lineages between crocodiles and birds — that is, dinosaurs — had one, too.

Now, the next question — what did it look like? Was it large or small? Fancy or plain? I wouldn't like to guess. The blue-billed duck (Oxyura australis) is just a little fellow — he weighs less than one kilogram (two pounds) — but his penis measures 28.5 centimeters (11 inches), and it's covered with knobs. In contrast, the mighty ostrich (Struthio camelus), which can weigh as much as 160 kilograms (350 pounds), has a penis that's a mere 20 centimeters (8 inches) long. But at least it's bright red.

If I only had that time machine . . .

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NOTES:

The text of The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex, along with many of Darwin's other works, is available from Project Gutenberg.

The relationship between male body size and fighting, and between relative testes size, penis morphology, and female mating patterns, is well known and can be found in any recent book on animal sexual behaviour, including my own (see chapters 1, 2 and 4, and the references therein).

For difficulties in sexing dinosaurs, and for the uselessness of the bones at the base of the tail, see Erickson, G. M., Lappin, A. K., and Larson, P. 2005. "Androgynous rex — the utility of chevrons for determining the sex of crocodilians and non-avian dinosaurs." Zoology 108: 277-286. For a female dinosaur heavy with eggs, see Sato, T., Cheng, Y-N., Wu, X-C., Zelenitsky, D. K., and Hsiao, Y-F. 2005. "A pair of shelled eggs inside a female dinosaur." Science 308: 375. For a method of sexing dinosaurs through differences in legbone structure, see Schweitzer, M. H., Wittmeyer, J. L., and Horner, J. R. 2005. "Gender-specific reproductive tissue in ratites and Tyrannosaurus rex." Science 308: 1456-1460.

The relationships between crocodiles, birds, and dinosaurs are well known; but see, for example, Padian, K., de Ricqlès, A. J., and Horner, J. R. 2001. "Dinosaurian growth rates and bird origins." Nature 412: 405-408. For ducks, geese, and swans having an early split from the other neognathous birds, see Livezey, B. C., and Zusi, R. L. 2007. "Higher-order phylogeny of modern birds (Theropoda, Aves: Neornithes) based on comparative anatomy. II. Analysis and Discussion." Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 149: 1-95.

For the penis of crocodiles see the extended version of: Ziegler, T. and Olbort, S. 2007. "Genital Structures and Sex Identification in Crocodiles." Crocodile Specialist Group Newsletter 26:16-17. For the distribution of the penis in birds, for a description of its structure, and for the measurements of various ducks, see Coker, C. R., McKinney, F., Hays, H., Briggs, S., and Cheng, K. M. 2002. "Intromittent organ morphology and testis size in relation to mating system in waterfowl." The Auk 119: 403-413.




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1. Comment #126431 by Quetzalcoatl on February 13, 2008 at 8:40 am

 avatarThis is an interesting if somewhat peculiar article!

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2. Comment #126433 by Geoff on February 13, 2008 at 8:43 am

 avatarWow! Just wow!

But:

In species where females usually mate with a single male during a breeding episode, penises tend to be small and uninteresting.


I consider that to be an insult!

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3. Comment #126434 by The Reverend Dark on February 13, 2008 at 8:44 am

 avatarAnd to futher kill the romance on the speculation as to what sort of wedding tackle the average sauropod was slinging about like a sausage shop display in a high wind. A riddle.

How could you tell which T-Rex's had venereal disease?

Dino-sores.

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4. Comment #126436 by Geoff on February 13, 2008 at 8:48 am

 avatarCould be worse: dino-mites can do a lot of damage...

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5. Comment #126438 by The Reverend Dark on February 13, 2008 at 8:52 am

 avatarEspecially to Jimmy Walker's career. Oh wait... that was his career.

Or you could pursue the highly likely avian line and infer that the disease in question is chirpies. Which is a shame as it is untweetable.

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6. Comment #126443 by annabanana on February 13, 2008 at 9:00 am

 avatarThis is a very strange article, indeed, but I like puns, so I'll go along with it.

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7. Comment #126444 by Quetzalcoatl on February 13, 2008 at 9:03 am

 avatarRevD-

Or you could pursue the highly likely avian line


In that case the disease is more likely to be thrush.

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8. Comment #126446 by clatz on February 13, 2008 at 9:06 am

 avatarWhat an article!

Felt slightly violated during half of it, and perverted during the rest.

Cloacal kiss anyone?

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9. Comment #126454 by alfonso on February 13, 2008 at 9:25 am

It is a great article, to be honest, with a very clear, concise and distinctive way of expressing maybe not very complex concepts, but still, concepts that are hard to grasp: how do we know certain things from fossils?

We might not have been there to see it happen, but there is so much we can tell with enormous certainty.

I find this much more beautiful and interesting than any biblical 'truths'.

Wouldn't mind to watch T.ReXXX, the Movie!

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10. Comment #126456 by jimbob on February 13, 2008 at 9:28 am

Which brings me to my tyrannical fantasy. I want to take a journey 68 million years back in time to see a Tyrannosaurus rex couple mating. What was it like? Did they trumpet and bellow and stamp their feet? Did they thrash their enormous tails? Did he bite her neck in rapture and exude a musky scent? Somehow, I imagine that when two T. rex got it on, the earth shook for miles around.


Best way to find out would be to re-create the scene. My suggestion would be to get Rosie O'Donnell and Larry the Cable Guy to give it a shot!

Any better suggestions? ;-)

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11. Comment #126474 by movingshadow on February 13, 2008 at 10:20 am

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happy valentine's day

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12. Comment #126476 by Geoff on February 13, 2008 at 10:21 am

 avatarThe guys who did the "***king with Dinosaurs" series...

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13. Comment #126489 by ridelo on February 13, 2008 at 11:03 am

Well, I suppose a penis is as much apart of our body as our head. And in a kind off symmetrical place too...

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14. Comment #126490 by The Reverend Dark on February 13, 2008 at 11:06 am

 avatarI am unsure that Rosie and Larry the cable guy are sexually compatible. I was under the impression she was far more partial to the... ahem... Cloacal kiss.

Cheers,
The Reverend Shayne Dark

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15. Comment #126497 by Adam Morrison on February 13, 2008 at 11:19 am

 avatarThis shows those people that say science can't be uplifting. This article made my day!

I can't say what Dino-VD is like, but if you want to know what the male dino's fav position is, I'd guess you could examine trytobiontops fossils.

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16. Comment #126499 by arogop on February 13, 2008 at 11:22 am

 avatarI guess I know why I am in a monogamous relationship. For those who prefer multiple partners, could it be that they are much better endowed?

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17. Comment #126503 by Steve Zara on February 13, 2008 at 11:30 am

 avatarSomething to remember when looking at pictures of the largest dinosaurs we have found is... these things had to manage to mate. That almost certainly means the females not only supporting the immense weight of their own bodies, but probably much of the weight of a male as well!

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18. Comment #126506 by Slyer on February 13, 2008 at 11:32 am

 avatarWell I certainly learned a bit. :P

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19. Comment #126516 by Mal3 on February 13, 2008 at 11:50 am

 avatarOh, sparrow us the bad puns. Lets not make a parrot-y of this interesting scientific article, as that would be most fowl indeed.

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20. Comment #126519 by SomeDanGuy on February 13, 2008 at 12:03 pm

All I ever wanted to know about penises and more! This article was great - I love any article that compares diversity across the animal kingdom, and if it happens to involve reproduction even better!

And movingshadow: that gif is hilarious. I'm definitely sending it to my wife for Valentine's tomorrow.

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21. Comment #126521 by Logicel on February 13, 2008 at 12:21 pm

 avatarOlivia Judson is an evolutionary biologist with flair--if you use a Newsreader, make sure you subscribe to her informative and enjoyable blog, The Wild Side (link provided in above article).

Though I throughly enjoyed the 'avianlanche' of puns, this comment (out of about 50 so far) at the article's original site had me in complete stitches:

Do we really have to know all this stuff? I mean, what’s it all got to do with St. Valentine’s day? I mean, all this anatomical business;�"it’s a turn-off, you ask me.

Now don’t get me wrong, I like dinos, like reading about ‘em, watching ‘em on TV. It’s just that, well, based on what I’ve seen and read about ‘em, romance just wasn’t part of their everday life.
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movingshadow, your LOLdino is excellent!

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22. Comment #126525 by Nails on February 13, 2008 at 12:42 pm

 avatarLoved it.

Fascinating and full of insight; the more I read of Darwin's work the more I want to read it for myself.

Descent of man sounds great, has anyone read it?
Is it as hard to read as Origin, which is quite difficult in places.

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23. Comment #126535 by steveroot on February 13, 2008 at 1:32 pm

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8. Comment #126446 by clatz on February 13, 2008 at 9:06 am

Cloacal kiss anyone?

Isn't that what the Dementors did in Harry Potter? ;-)
Steve

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24. Comment #126536 by Goldy on February 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm

From the sex lives of creatures long gone to the sex lives of creatures present - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=10492274
Must be a Valentine's thing...

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25. Comment #126537 by Dog Boots on February 13, 2008 at 1:36 pm

movingshadow, please take your YEC propaganda elsewhere ;o)

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26. Comment #126539 by annabanana on February 13, 2008 at 1:37 pm

 avatarSteveroot,

I found the dementors disturbing in the first place...now you've gone and made them unbearable, thanks.

That reminds me though...it always bothered me that the mist in book 6 meant that the dementors were breeding...yuck...

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27. Comment #126541 by al-rawandi on February 13, 2008 at 1:48 pm

 avatarSteve,


Something to remember when looking at pictures of the largest dinosaurs we have found is... these things had to manage to mate. That almost certainly means the females not only supporting the immense weight of their own bodies, but probably much of the weight of a male as well!




Maybe you are thinking of only one potential position. Maybe there was some sort of dino-kama sutra???? I don't want to get into it.


We will leave it there.

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28. Comment #126556 by Quetzalcoatl on February 13, 2008 at 2:31 pm

 avatarAl-rawandi-

Maybe there was some sort of dino-kama sutra????


There was, but the only species that ever learned all the techniques was the Sutrasaurus, and they were wiped out by jealous T-Rexes. Circle of life.

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29. Comment #126578 by Adam Morrison on February 13, 2008 at 3:21 pm

 avatarWarning: Slightly Crude Joke

Re: Al-Rawandi


Maybe there was some sort of dino-kama sutra????


Maybe written by a Gottalototail? Hopefully not a Syphilosaurus
(Booooooo, I know)

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30. Comment #126590 by Steve Zara on February 13, 2008 at 3:54 pm

 avatarHey guys... I am partly serious! I wonder if there is some structural difference between sexes in the larger dinosaurs to deal with the issue of the females supporting the weight of the males.

I don't know if it has been mentioned before on this site, but recently we have discovered more than fossilised bones - fossilised mummified bodies of dinosaurs. We can see musculature, the positions of internal organs, and even the texture of the skin! Extrapolating from scale patterns in modern reptiles, there are hints that some plant-eating dinosaurs where striped, for camouflage. The degree of preservation of some of these dinosaurs suggests that future fossils may even reveal the true dimensions of .... "trouser parts".

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31. Comment #126597 by Cartomancer on February 13, 2008 at 4:06 pm

 avatarWouldn't the female one be a Tyrannosaurus Regina?

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32. Comment #126599 by The Reverend Dark on February 13, 2008 at 4:10 pm

 avatarGyranosaurus Rex?

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33. Comment #126600 by Prankster on February 13, 2008 at 4:13 pm

I'd think there'd be a problem with the Tyrannosaurs actually getting it on with each other-the first few dates must have been hell-especially if they couldn't hold hands properly......(I'll get my coat eh?)

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34. Comment #126601 by Steve Zara on February 13, 2008 at 4:17 pm

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I'd think there'd be a problem with the Tyrannosaurs actually getting it on with each other-the first few dates must have been hell-especially if they couldn't hold hands properly......(I'll get my coat eh?)


I have an hypothesis. Eventually they will find a fossil with feathers associated with those tiny Tyrannosaur hands. They had millions of years to dissappear (like snake or whale legs), but they didn't, so what were they for? My idea.. some kind of mating display... sort of flashy winglets....

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35. Comment #126602 by annabanana on February 13, 2008 at 4:19 pm

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sort of flashy winglets

Steve, that sounds more like a drag show...

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36. Comment #126603 by ImagineAll on February 13, 2008 at 4:20 pm

MovingShadow- that was hilariously appropriate, and bonus points for the Obscure Simpsons Reference. :D

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37. Comment #126605 by Prankster on February 13, 2008 at 4:21 pm

I was being flippant but.....

Steve- I can't see it myself not unless they were chav or scally dinosaurs showing off their sovereign rings (that's a UK in-joke for any Americans, Canadians or anyone else watching)

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38. Comment #126606 by LorienRyan on February 13, 2008 at 4:22 pm

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Wouldn't the female one be a Tyrannosaurus Regina?


Tyrannosaurusess? She wears to much red lipstick and oversized fake eyelashes, which she batters to attract the attention of the male.

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39. Comment #126607 by Geoff on February 13, 2008 at 4:24 pm

 avatar"Gyranosaurus Rex?"

That has a sort of "swivelling" suggestion to it...

I'd suggest the one wearing the veil would be a Q'ranosaurus, though...

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40. Comment #126608 by Prankster on February 13, 2008 at 4:26 pm

Geoff

Q'ranosaurus?

That was awful-almost as bad as my "holding hands" comment

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41. Comment #126610 by Geoff on February 13, 2008 at 4:30 pm

 avatarWell, it was originally called the Iranosaurus, but then found to be almost identical to the Iraquiosaur and Persianodon.

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42. Comment #126616 by Steve Zara on February 13, 2008 at 4:37 pm

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Steve, that sounds more like a drag show...


I really wish you hadn't said that, as I now realise where I subconsciously got the idea.

But, I still insist it isn't a bad idea. I mean, an ideal plumage for drag acts is ostrich feathers... and ostriches use their feeble wings in mating displays.

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43. Comment #126617 by Prankster on February 13, 2008 at 4:38 pm

Geoff....*groan*

Words Fail me...I'm leaving for the night

Annabanana?

Love the new photo-Hairstyle really suits you

Steve Zara-having real trouble picturing a T-Rex flapping it's arms about-almost seems too camp for words my friend

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44. Comment #126618 by Goldy on February 13, 2008 at 4:39 pm

sort of flashy winglets....

What, like those tassles one can see in certain dancing establishments? Hmmmm - they say there is nothing new under the sun.... ;-)
Regarding your serious point - I also wander if there was sexual dimorphism. I recall reading recently that some of the moa bones originally attributed to young or indeed smaller species were actually the different sex to the larger bones they found.

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45. Comment #126619 by Steve Zara on February 13, 2008 at 4:42 pm

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I recall reading recently that some of the moa bones originally attributed to young or indeed smaller species were actually the different sex to the larger bones they found.


That is just what I was thinking.

Unfortunately, thanks to Anna, I am now stuck with the mental image of a cabaret of camp feathered Tyrannosaurs....

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46. Comment #126622 by Goldy on February 13, 2008 at 4:46 pm

I've got T. rex gyrating and swivelling feathered "eye catchers" in opposite directions in my mind...

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47. Comment #126624 by hmj on February 13, 2008 at 4:47 pm

Female elephants do not have to support the weight of the heavier males when mating. It is a matter of technique.

Very interesting article.

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48. Comment #126625 by Prankster on February 13, 2008 at 4:47 pm

Steve

You're stuck with it!!?? (sorry had to hang around to see you squirm over the T-Rex drag-fest you've inadvertantly conjoured up)

I won't be able to sleep now......

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49. Comment #126627 by Geoff on February 13, 2008 at 4:48 pm

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sort of flashy winglets


Steve, that sounds more like a drag show...


I was thinking more along the lines of KFC.

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50. Comment #126628 by LorienRyan on February 13, 2008 at 4:52 pm

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I was thinking more along the lines of KFC.


Haha - original recipe or zinger?

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